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Get ready for a weekly dose of all things Enterprise Software and Cloud Computing! Join us as we dive into topics including Kubernetes, DevOps, Serverless, Security and Coding. Plus, we’ll keep you entertained with plenty of off-topic banter and nonsense. Don’t worry if you miss the latest industry conference - we’ve got you covered with recaps of all the latest news from AWS, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud Platform (GCP) and the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF).
Latest episodes

Aug 21, 2020 • 1h 1min
Episode 252: It can be exciting, but excitement ends.
Why would Oracle buy TikTok? Why would Amazon invest in Rackspace? We answer these questions and discuss the state of cloud migrations. Plus, Matt and Coté offers advice on hot dogs.
The Rundown
Oracle and Tik Tok?
Oracle interested in buying TikTok: report
Oracle enters race to buy TikTok’s US operations
Amazon invests in Rackspace?
Amazon reportedly eyes Rackspace minority stake
Exclusive: Amazon in talks to invest in cloud services company Rackspace
Relevant to your Interests
Monitoring
Why Grafana: Part II
Thanos Takes Scalable, Highly-Available Prometheus Monitoring to CNCF Incubation
Docker shocker: Cash-strapped container crew threatens to delete 4.5 petabytes of unloved images
AWS Announces General Availability of Amazon Braket
Mozilla signs fresh Google search deal worth mega-millions as 25% staff cut hits Servo, MDN, security teams
IBM rolls out newest processor chip, taps Samsung for manufacturing
Michigan is devoting a 40-mile stretch of highway to testing self-driving cars and improving public transportation
Codice Software joins Unity Technologies to bring version control to real-time 3D workflows
Professor Cold Takes
Laying the foundation for Rust's future | Rust Blog
Hot Chips 2020: Marvell Details ThunderX3 CPUs - Up to 60 Cores Per Die, 96 Dual-Die in 2021
R281-T94 (rev. 100) | ARM Servers - GIGABYTE Global
WSJ News Exclusive | Amazon Bets on Office-Based Work With Expansion in Major Cities
Dear Google Cloud: Your Deprecation Policy is Killing You
Apple and Epic are still fighting: Epic Games Newsroom
Nonsense
AAdvantage program updates − AAdvantage program − American Airlines - credit cards dollars/miles count for Milljon Miles program.
The Qwerty Effect
An Australian surfer saved his wife from a great white shark attack by leaping on the predator's back and repeatedly punching until it let go
No worries
Harry Potter's invisibility cloak is almost a reality, but only for likely military use
Conferences
GitLab Commit: You Belong Here on Aug 26th.
SpringOne Platform, Sep 2nd and 3rd.
SDT news & hype
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitch, Twitter, Instagram and LinkedIn
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Matt Ray: Arch Linux, so fun? IKEA veggie dogs
Brandon: The Wubi Effect from Radiolab
Coté: hot dogs, Danish red and American.
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Aug 14, 2020 • 1h 2min
Episode 251: Don’t you use my words against me
We discuss all the latest M&A rumors including: MSFT buying TikTok, Nvidia buying ARM and Salesforce.com buying Datadog. We also weigh in on the latest fight between Fortnite and Apple over the App Store. Plus, we offer advice on air conditioning and cars.
The Rundown
Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
TikTok
Microsoft faces complex technical challenges in TikTok carveoutRelevant to your interests
We Tested Instagram Reels, the TikTok Clone. What a Dud.
Datadog
Why Datadog Stock Was Slammed on Friday @themotleyfool #stocks $DDOG
Datadog Acquires Undefined Labs to Provide Visibility into CI/CD Workflows
Why Datadog Stock Popped Today @themotleyfool #stocks $DDOG $CRM
Google
Can Brian Hall Fix What Ails Google Cloud?
Google Cloud's expanding enterprise footprint and the rise of the 10 year deal
****- Microsoft launches Open Service Mesh based on Envoy – TechCrunch
Matt’s corner
Google Music shutdown starts this month, music deleted in December
Nvidia in Advanced Talks to Buy SoftBank’s Chip Company Arm
Relevant to your Interests
The Ten Commandments of Container Security - InfraCloud Technologies
The Second Edition of “The State of the Kubernetes Ecosystem”
Linux Foundation rolls bunch of overlapping groups into one to tackle growing number of open-source security vulns
Apple Buys Startup to Challenge Square in Mobile Payments
IBM is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning, Jim Whitehurst Isn't Even Using GNU/Linux
Rackspace IPO prices at bottom of target range to raise about $703 million
Mistake by Apple kills all Mac developer's apps - 9to5Mac
Resigning from AWS on Ethical Grounds with Tim Bray — Screaming in the Cloud
Scientists rename human genes to stop Microsoft Excel from misreading them as dates
Toshiba Will No Longer Make Laptops
VMware discontinues Datrium hardware and hyperconverged OS, effective immediately
Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products | ZDNet
Google rolls out virtual visiting card in India – TechCrunch
Mirantis acquires Lens, an IDE for Kubernetes – TechCrunch
Working in Public and the Economics of Free
“Running a successful open source project is just Good Will Hunting in reverse, where you start out as a respected genius and end up being a janitor who gets into fights."
Nonsense
Decision making IS FUN | Spin The Wheel App
AAirpass
kelseyhightower/mesh
Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th.
GitLab Commit: You Belong Here on Aug 26th.
SpringOne Platform, Sep 2nd and 3rd.
Listener Feedback
Sent stickers to Sachin in NSW Australia
Sent stickers to Jesse in Georgia, he says we are like family.
Colin tweeted at us.
SDT news & hype
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitch, Twitter, Instagram and LinkedIn
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Matt Ray: Google Docs → Tools → Voice typing: Matt’s SDT 251 Transcript
Brandon: Anker Wireless Charger
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Aug 7, 2020 • 47min
Episode 250: Jana Werner, a Head of Transformation
Slide decks, paper proposals and steering group sessions all take a significant investment to prepare, avoiding “difficult” conversations by socializing and re-socializing in advance of exec meetings, deferring decisions, requesting a raft of meeting minutes to document, correcting, amending and signing them off—the majority of which few people read.... The speed of these cycles determines the heartbeat of the organization.
This week, Coté talks with Jana Werner about a recent paper she co-authored about changing how a large financial institution does software.
Check out the paper and Jana in LinkedIn. Also, check out the talk she has coming up at SpringOne Platform.Special Guest: Jana Werner.

Jul 31, 2020 • 58min
Episode 249: Was Tom Landry cool?
The week we discuss New Relic’s open source plans, why monitoring is so complicated and try to unravel the mystery of enterprise pricing. Plus, Coté finds out that you can indeed use too much soap.
The Rundown
Friend us and follow SDT on Twitch: sdtpodcat
New Relic Changes Business Model, Open Sources Agents and Instrumentation
Analysts Estimate New Relic (NEWR) to Report a Decline in Earnings:
Relevant to your interests
How Kubernetes adds agility in challenging times
The Impact of AI on Organizations
The Opportunity in App Modernization
Cloudflare Wants to Eat AWS’s Serverless Lunch
Amazon reportedly invested in startups and gained proprietary information before launching competitors, often crushing the smaller companies in the process
Huawei overtook Samsung in global smartphone shipments for Q2 – TechCrunch
Transformation case study
Growth+Sales: The New Era of Enterprise Go-to-Market
Can Brian Hall Fix What Ails Google Cloud?
Taiwan is now Arrakis | Epsilon Theory
Congress's historic tech hearing suggests antitrust crackdown could come soon
The new Teams experience
Op-Ed: Kubernetes May Be Google’s Last Great Open Project
Nonsense
How to Sell Books in 2020: Put Them Near the Toilet Paper
Parents with children forced to do school at home are drinking more
Conferences
SpringOne Platform, Sep 2nd and 3rd.
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th.
GitLab Commit: You Belong Here on Aug 26th.
SDT news & hype
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitch, Twitter, Instagram and LinkedIn
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Matt Ray: Anti-picks Cisco WebEx, Sabrent (no links, no recommendations)
Brandon: Audio Hijack.
Coté: AU apostrophe’s.

Jul 24, 2020 • 47min
Episode 248: They want cloud grade
We recap the recent announcements from Google Next and discuss Rackspace's upcoming IPO. Plus, Coté reviews the ambient noise videos on YouTube.
The Rundown
Google Next
Google Cloud details Confidential Computing 'breakthrough'
BigQuery Omni for multi-cloud data analytics
Assured Workloads for Government: Compliance without compromise
Rackspace
Rackspace IPO S1
Rackspace IPO Plan: How Multi-Cloud MSP Pivoted Under Private Equity Ownership
Long Term Stock Exchange
Relevant to your interests
VC
Puppet announces $40 million debt round from BlackRock
Portland cloud infrastructure automation startup Puppet raises $40M
Auth0 Announces $120M in Series F Funding
Messaging
Slack has filed an antitrust complaint over Microsoft Teams in the EU
Major Gmail redesign will bring Chat, Meet, Tasks and Docs into one interface
Share screens using Messages on Mac
AWS
Salesforce, AWS launch Amazon Connect integration with Service Cloud | ZDNet
Announcing AWS App2Container - Containerize and Migrate Applications to the AWS Cloud
Just Too Efficient from Tim Bray
Amazon Makes Employees Delete TikTok From Phones, Citing Security Risk
The Growing Dependence Of VMware On AWS
Hacks and Outages
Hackers Tell the Story of the Twitter Attack From the Inside
Twitter explains outage on Twitter
Cloudflare outage takes down Discord, Shopify, Politico and others – TechCrunch
Guarding Against Physical Attacks: The Xbox One Story - Tony Chen, Microsoft - Platform Security Summit 2019
IBM
IBM improves gross margins in Q2 under new CEO
IBM Earnings Preview: Red Hat Merger Is The Future, But Pandemic Timing Couldn't Be Worse
Kube Corner
Google Exposes Old Wounds in Open Source Community - DevOps.com
Operator Framework
More
16 Must-Listen Podcasts for IT/Tech Professionals
Digicert will shovel some 50,000 EV HTTPS certificates into the furnace this Saturday after audit bungle
JetBrains Technology Day for Java
Aerial fiber deployment, faster and more efficient - Facebook Engineering
You call Verizon. A Google bot answers. You demand a human. The human is told what to say by the bot
TrickBot Sample Accidentally Warns Victims They’re Infected
Samsung’s 6G White Paper Lays Out the Company’s Vision for the Next Generation of Communications Technology
The State of Developer Ecosystem in 2020 Infographic
It would cost us $3 million a year to give our employees email addresses
Four years after swallowing Arm Holdings, SoftBank said to be mulling Brit chip biz sale
Dell Says It’s Exploring Potential Spinoff of VMware Unit
OKD4 is now Generally Available
VS Code grows, Emacs holds steady
Airbnb Was Like a Family, Until the Layoffs Started
How to setup Role based access to Kubernetes Cluster - InfraCloud Technologies
A $100 Million Investment to Reshape the Economics of the Web
Ireland donates its COVID Tracker app to Linux Foundation
How Costco Convinces Brands to Cannibalize Themselves
Straddling the firewall: cloud from 2010 to 2020 (& what to do next)
SUSE releases major Linux update | ZDNet
How to broadcast to Twitch and Zoom with OBS
Nonsense
Travel Dress Pant Sweatpants
IBM job ad calls for 12 years’ experience with Kubernetes – which is six years old
British Airways retires its entire fleet of Boeing 747 jets
I made a robot to cut my hair with scissors
Coté’s ambient noise videos
Conferences
SpringOne Platform, Sep 2nd and 3rd.
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th.
GitLab Commit: You Belong Here on Aug 26th.
SDT news & hype
Listen to Richard Seroter interview
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Matt Ray: Palm Springs.
Brandon: Reckoning.
Coté:
Vivino wine app (you can order wine, next day!)
Apple Magic Touch pad thing.
Setapp.
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Jul 16, 2020 • 55min
Episode 247: Richard Seroter on App Modernization
On this episode Brandon interviews Richard Seroter from Google. They discuss Richard's career, Product Management & Marketing, Google Anthos and what App Modernization really means. Plus, Richard tells us how a doctor removes a wedding ring when you have a fractured finger.
Mentioned on the Show
Richard joins Google
Richard on the web
Blog: Richard Seroter's Architecture Musings
Twitter: @rseroter
LinkedIn: seroter
Phote CreditSpecial Guest: Richard Seroter.

Jul 11, 2020 • 1h 3min
Episode 246: Istio-washing, 20 domain names, .docx
We discuss: the trademark moves of Google; open source skullduggery; why Slack has the upper-hand on Teams…or not?; and Coté’s growing love of .docx files.
Mood board:
I read a lot of Wikipedia when I should be working
After all this, time people probably think that whatever you’re doing is “working.”
Did you respond with an emoji thumbs-up?
I read the email. Thought about it for a few hours. Then thought “I’m just going to archive that email.”
He’s big in the Angular community - works all the angels.
Little components that talk with each other over the network. Gotta do a whole bunch of shit for that.
You don’t sue people who are using it if you want them to use it.
Service mesh is Greek for “service mesh.”
Lady Cathemhouse’s Rules.
Chekhov’s Trademark.
Couple thousand stores.
…and maybe integrate with their Active Directory.
“Federated Slacks.”
I think I like the Word file.
No one can poop all over your stuff in a way that you forgot what it looked like when it was clean.
De-headwind yourself from the COVID.
I’m mad about The Edit by Default.
I can’t find my tongs, they’ve gone somewhere.
I wouldn’t say that I’d recommend it, I’m just saying I enjoy it.
The Rundown
Commons cause: IBM, Oracle, CNCF protest over Google's handling of Istio governance
SUSE corrals Rancher Labs
SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs
SUSE acquires Kubernetes management platform Rancher Labs
Linux company SUSE outbids competitors for fast-growing start-up Rancher Labs
Slack
The Slack Social Network
swyx Writing | Slack is Fumbling Developers
Slack acquires SaaS start-up Rimeto
State of Developer Relations 2020 Report
Redis
The end of the Redis adventure
New Governance for Redis | Redis Labs
Relevant to your interests
Tim Bray Blogs
Anti monopoly
Amazon profit from AWS
A Cloud PR FAQ
Break up Google
Why Buybacks & Boeing are Public Enemy Number One (w/ Dr. William Lazonick)
iOS 14 Snitches on LinkedIn and Reddit's Snooping Practices
Quibbi Gossip
Third Base | No Mercy / No Malice
Uber Buys Postmates for $2.65 Billion
Digital Contact Tracing's Mixed Record Abroad Spells Trouble for US Efforts to Rein in COVID-19
FBI Opens a New China-Related Counterintelligence Investigation Every 10 Hours, Director Says
Oracle: Low Revenue Growth And Excessive Buybacks Have Pushed Oracle Out Of Competition
The collaborative browser based IDE
How to add a README to your GitHub profile
Nonsense
How to make incredible juicy burgers from extra lean ground beef
The Blue Label Burger Blend Recipe
Sponsor
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Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th
SDT news & hype
Listen to the Adam Jacob Interview on Open Source
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: The Missing
Matt Ray: Watchmen
Coté: Oatly Milk.
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Jul 3, 2020 • 1h 5min
Episode 245: Michael Coté’s Discount Webinar Barn, aka, The Webinar Episode
Come with us as we solve life’s greatest mystery: lead-genless webinars. Coté also gives his 10 day in review of Hey email. Also, theories on grilling hamburgers.
Mood board:
They got money, kicking out the Nazis
Have you tried saying it louder?
It came out fine.
The burger meat here is like a bunch of little worms.
Long form commercials.
Webinar as conference.
Sitting in a Zoom.
People don’t want to show up and consensually watch a YouTube video.
The Wine Bottle Leads.
The Minecraft Yellers.
The pink slurry of enterprise software content.
There’s nothing at the bottom of their funnel.
I know all those things, I just don’t like them.
HigherGradeWebinars.biz
The conclusion of the plutes.
Today was the last day of school for the kids. Tomorrow, the nightmare begins.
The Rundown
The New Conference
Apple’s virtual WWDC wasn’t just okay—it could be the future of keynotes
Google Next over 9 Weeks
In the first cohort of HEY signups, 37% have converted to a paid account!
Relevant to your interests
Email Is Broken
Analysis: Here are five strategic options for Dell and VMware
Arm Macs and AMD rising: How Intel's endless 10nm struggles cost it so much
US police using Chinese drones are ‘at risk’ of data breach, DHS warns
Amazon jumps into self-driving taxis with purchase of Zoox
Discord Was Once The Alt-Right’s Favorite Chat App. Now It’s Gone Mainstream And Scored A New $3.5 Billion Valuation
Your Place to Talk
An Infrastructure Arms Race Is Fueling the Future of Gaming
Ranking the Observability Offerings - APM Experts
Flying
Secret Flying | Cheap Flights & Error Fares
Jack's Flight Club | Cheap Flights, Flight Deals & Alerts
Interactive Route Map of Low Cost Airline flights in Europe
Alternative Airlines | Book Flights on 100s of Airlines
Nonsense
Coming soon to a 3D printer near you: Plant-based steaks
Big Red soda is the secret to make deliciously tender smoked pork chops
Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th
SDT news & hype
Listen to interview with Kylie Grenier about Digital Transformation
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: Land of the Giants podcast.
Matt Ray: Cory Doctorow’s Walkaway.
Coté: Euro breakfast on the go.

Jun 30, 2020 • 1h 6min
Episode 244: Kylie Grenier on Digital Transformation
Brandon interviews Kylie Grenier from DXC Technology. They discuss Kylie's experience in leading digital transformation in the public sector, her time as a Cloud Futurist at Cisco and how she helps clients build digital transformation strategies today. Plus, Kylie offers some tips on how to get a new job.
Kylie on the web
Twitter: @CurrentKylie
LinkedIn: kyliegrenier
Image creditSpecial Guest: Kylie Grenier.

Jun 26, 2020 • 1h 6min
Episode 243: This one goes out to all the cross-country truckers
Extracting configs with awk, Apple announces stuff, and salad dressing. That’s the topics. Mostly.
Mood board:
One
How come Slack doesn’t have a DropBox yet?
I got the Call Recorder!
Brand Police.
You’d get to do a lot of writing, but you’d get a lot of editing.
Dunning Keurig
Yeet your email.
I don’t know where it comes from, but my kids got me saying it.
People just throwing tickets into the wind.
Awk yeah
You should sanitize your inputs every day, Matt Ray.
I’ve been treating Apple news like Star Wars news.
The Builders.
We got piles of clip art.
Elfin robot children on a sea of green binary.
MacOS 11.1, “Green Goddess”
There’s only one MC who talks about space and cross-country truck driving.
Watch the get to school on time tapes.
John Irving Parenting.
Until then, I’ll just ground him from his iPad.
The Rundown
Kool Keith interview: “I’m dis-attached from reality on my own terms.”
Luxury Email
Cote reviews HEY
Outlook update: e works in the Mac desktop app.
Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced
Basecamp is good at PR — How Basecamp bent Apple
Wait — Slack is killing email with Slack Connect
M&A
ServiceNow to acquire Belgian configuration management startup Sweagle
Not sure about people who use the word “infra.”
I think it’s a configuration store that plugs into CI pipelines - sort of like a ConfigMap for Jenkins.
“SWEAGLE provides a quality gate for your configuration data. Includes versioning, management, and validation of all types of config data.” https://github.com/jenkinsci/sweagle-plugin
It will run validates to make sure the hostname is valid, there are no empty values, etc. Has a JavaScript SDK for writing validation code.
ServiceNow integration that extracts confit from CMDB. https://github.com/sweagleExpert/integrations/tree/master/ServiceNow
Microsoft confirms acquisition of CyberX to boost security in its Azure IoT business
Apple has acquired Fleetsmith, a startup that helps IT manage Apple devices remotely
Apple Talk
Apple will let you emulate old apps and run iOS apps on ARM Macs – TechCrunch
The End of OS X
Apple Docker Tweet
Apple is switching Macs to its own processors starting later this year
Are you actually changing?
Relevant to your interests
Google pushes “text fragment links” with new Chrome extension
Spotmicro - robot dog by KDY0523
The Segway’s Inventor Has a New Project: Manufacturing Human Organs
Fortnite’s new season has flooded the map
The Next Step for Mixer - From the Myxer
Announcing the HashiCorp Cloud Platform
WSJ News Exclusive | Dell Explores Spinoff of $50 Billion Stake in VMware
Amazon is looking to add live TV to Prime Video
kelseyhightower/nocode
Containers to capture 15 percent of all enterprise apps across 75 percent of business by 2024
Inside the Baffling World of Masayoshi Son's Presentations
Nonsense
Chocolate Digestives
Scottish Man tries Southern Snacks
Emoji Search Finally Coming to iOS in iOS 14
Not enough public toilets in Amsterdam especially for women, wheelchair users
BYE
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Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th
SDT news & hype
Listen to interview with Brian Gracely
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: **The Data Coach - Against the Rules with Michael Lewis; Trust Fall : Invisibilia.
****- Matt Ray: The Coup: Party Music
Coté: Razer Kiyo.
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