
The Fire Pit Podcast
In the 25 years of covering golf, the development of the game, courses and the camaraderie that’s core to the culture, it was time for Matt to share some of the best stories he has heard around fire pits all over the world. From PGA Tour players, caddies, architects, avid amateurs and buddies-trip planners, Matt has forged relationships with some of the most colorful and influential people in the game. So grab a drink, a seat and settle in. We’re getting to the essence of one story per podcast. A narrative so deep and meaningful, you save it for a post-round fire pit, which is where no one is in a hurry for the night to end.
Latest episodes

Nov 7, 2022 • 56min
Fire Drill 049: The Ephemeral Nature of Winning
In the latest Fire Drill podcast, Alan Shipnuck, Ryan French, and Mike Bamberger discuss Russell Henley’s (5th!) win, Q School storylines, Asian Tour results and Patrick Reed’s continued legal offensives. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 1, 2022 • 1h 10min
Fire Drill 048: The LIV Grades Are In
Alan Shipnuck, Michael Bamberger and Ryan French hand out grades on the first LIV season. (They are better than you think). Plus the rise of Seamus Power, some great stories from the PGA Tour event in Bermuda and the guys rank their favorite courses at Bandon Dunes, where all three spent the previous week. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 24, 2022 • 55min
Fire Drill 047: Rory Roars
In the latest Fire Drill Podcast, Ryan French, Alan Shipnuck, and Michael Bamberger discuss the larger meaning of Rory McIlroy's latest win, Lydia Ko's renaissance and Alan's controversial ace, with the usual diversions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 18, 2022 • 53min
Fire Drill 046: Down the Middle with James Hahn
In this Fire Drill podcast, Alan Shipnuck is joined by James Hahn, a golf unicorn: a Tour member who makes supportive statements about LIV Golf. Hahn talks Tour politics, Monahan's future, his "price" to go LIV and much more in this candid conversation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 17, 2022 • 1h 11min
Fire Drill 045: On The Record
In the latest Fire Drill podcast, Alan Shipnuck, Ryan French (MondayQinfo) & Michael Bamberger discuss Phil's curious press conference comments, Brooks and Keegan winning again, Rickie's resurgence and the delicate dance between reporters and subjects. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 10, 2022 • 1h 8min
Fire Drill 044: Tom Kim Versus the Universe
In this Fire Drill podcast, Alan Shipnuck is joined by Ryan French and Michael Bamberger to discuss Kim’s emergence as a budding superstar, as well as Eugenio Lopez-Chacarra’s win at LIV and what that means for the competition for young talent. Ryan brings to life his scoop on how the MENA Tour stiffed its players and what that means for LIV. They also riff on everyone from Frank Lickliter to Peter Thomson is a delightfully discursive conversation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 30, 2022 • 1h 15min
Slaying The Dragon They Call Cancer
The story of how the loss of one life is saving countless others. Curing Kids Cancer is an organization that has raised over $23 million with a simple mission: “Find cures for all childhood cancers.” This podcast tells the story of how one family’s loss has resulted in the inspirational progress to fund the development of CAR T immunotherapy. You’ll meet Grainne and Clay Owen, who, almost 20 years ago, lost their son Killian to leukemia. On the one-year anniversary of his death, they founded an organization that continues to change lives. “I didn’t have the luxury of feeling sorry for myself,” says Grainne. “That would’ve been way too selfish because I had three other boys that needed me and they saved me from myself.” You’ll hear from Dr. Stephan Grupp, of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, who has become a leader in research devoted to developing cell-based and molecularly-targeted therapies to treat leukemia and solid tumors. “What motivates me is I see what it looks like when it doesn’t work,” says Dr. Grupp. “And it’s completely unacceptable.” Is this a golf story? Not really. But golf has played a critical role in the cultivating of the funds that are being used to make the difference. Curing Kids Cancer’s 17th annual golf tournament will be held on Oct. 3rd at Lakewood Country Club in Dallas and is expected to raise upward of $400,000. PGA Tour player Matt NeSmith will be there and makes a cameo in this podcast as he explains why he and his wife, Abigail, are involved in supporting Curing Kids Cancer. Lee Corso of ESPN’s “College Gameday” also offers his perspective and support. “It was 15 years ago when I met Clay Owen,” says Corso. “He was making his speech in Atlanta about how he and his wife lost their son Killian to leukemia. I was so touched, I walked up to him on the stage and I grabbed him and I said, ‘How can I help?’” Corso hasn’t stopped his support ever since. And there are countless others. If you are interested in getting involved, please give this story a listen and then go to curingkidscancer.org. For more visit the The Fire Pit Collective to check out everything we are doing. Use promo Firepit25 at Linksoul.com for 25% off your next Linksoul order. Got a comment about this story or a tip on a story we should track down? You can reach me on Twitter (@mattginella) or on Instagram (@matt_ginella). For bonus visuals and some behind the scenes of The Fire Pit podcast production, go to The Fire Pit YouTube Channel.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 28, 2022 • 37min
Fire Drill 043: Thoughts from the International Team Room
In this Fire Drill podcast International assistant team captain Geoff Ogilvy joins Alan Shipnuck and Michael Bamberger to break down the results of the Presidents Cup, rising International stars, and the future of American team golf. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 12, 2022 • 52min
Fire Drill 042: State of the Union (Jack)
In the latest Fire Drill podcast, Ryan French, Alan Shipnuck and Michael Bamberger discuss another big stretch for the game: the compromised POY voting, bang-bang finish at Wentworth,Talor Gooch's rise and Monday madness as the Tour season begins in Napa.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 31, 2022 • 1h 10min
Fire Drill 041: Center of the Storm
Andy Ogletree has been on a professional odyssey since winning the 2019 U.S. Amateur, including a dalliance with LIV. He speaks out here on his PGA Tour suspension (due to end in Dec.), recent adventures on the Asian tour and his new “optimism” for the future.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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