Two Sides of the Spectrum

Joy F. Johnson is a black, autistic behavioral therapist who runs Spectrum Support Services. She brings a new perspective to the podcast in so many ways. Join into the conversation as we discuss:- How joy uses her behavioral training to help keep black autistic kids safe when interacting with the police, and what strategies we all should be using to do the same- Joy’s take on behavioral strategies that we've been critiquing on this podcast like planned ignoring, using reinforcers, and using hand-over-hand assistance from her perspective person who is trained in ABA and also black and autistic- Joy's experiences with racism and ableism in the United States- Why Joy loves watching credits, the surprising doors her interests have opened for her in adulthood, and several important reasons why we shouldn’t withhold an autistic person’s interests from them  View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

Greg is a pediatric occupational therapist who presents workshops nationally on topics related to sensory processing, challenging behaviors, and improving school-based therapy services.  Greg is a huge advocate for best practice in OT. Join us as we discuss:- Why OTs already have the skills we need to work effectively and respectfully with our autistic clients, but often don't use them- How behavioral approaches such as planned ignoring and token boards can be harmful to our autistic clients- What empowering strategies we should all be using instead  View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

Kristie Patten is the chair of the Department of Occupational Therapy at New York University whose cutting-edge work focuses on using strength-based approaches in autism. Join us in this episode as we delve into:- How most OTs wound up using a deficits-based model with autistic kids and why this is not serving our clients well- Why we should move away from withholding kids' interests from them. We'll also talk about how first-then schedules and even limiting screen time may fall into this category - How we can support autistic clients to build from their strengths to support their joy and participation in life, leisure, and work- What we should be doing instead of social skills groups- Why it's really easy to be a bad therapist and really hard to be a good one (plus some concrete steps to take to help get us there!)  View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

Lydia X. Z. Brown is an autistic attorney and disability justice advocate who specifically focuses on violence against multiply-marginalized disabled people. In this episode, join us as we:- Dive deep into how white supremacy and white privilege play out for autistic kids- Learn how systematic racism and trauma impact the diagnosis and treatment of autistic kids, including the unexamined racism of many  OTs- Explore the role that police and prisons play in the schools and lives of autistic black, brown, indigenous, Asian, and POC kids- Discuss concrete steps OTs can take to become anti-racist in their work  View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

Damian Milton is an autistic researcher whose idea spawned a huge shift in how we think about autism.  In this episode, listen in as we explore:- How Damian  developed his hypothesis that the trouble with empathy and social  skills is a two-way street between autistic and non-autistic people, not a deficit of autistic people- What early research Damian did to confirm this hypothesis- One thing Damian would love to see OTs stop doing with social stories and comic strip interventions with autistic clients- A tip for how to better approach sensory processing challenges with autistic kids, with a cautionary tale from his own life  View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

Welcome to episode 1! In this episode Sarah and I dive deep into how our OT practices can better reflect our respect for autistic voices and our autistic clients. Join us while we:- Revisit how the podcast idea was born and named- Explore the most pressing reasons not to use hand-over-hand assistance with autistic kids (I'll also talk about why we say "autistic" not "kids with autism")- Discuss autonomy, sex, race, the foster system, and so much more- Explore the most pressing changes needed by OTs working with autistic people, and what concrete steps we can take to get there  View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast