

Green & Red: Podcasts for Scrappy Radicals
Green and Red
Welcome to our scrappy podcast. Bob Buzzanco and Scott Parkin co-host a regular podcast to discuss radical environmental and anti-capitalist politics with organizers, academics, artists and more.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
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Mar 12, 2020 • 1h 12min
G&R Episode 6: Populism and the New Deal, Do Those Words Mean What You Think They Mean?
The world is in full blown panic around the COVID19 pandemic. The global economy is shaking. Today, the stock market took its biggest dip since September 1987. Panic about the virus and jobs and business is kicking in. During previous economic crashes, most notably the Panic of 1893 and the 1929 crash that launched the Great Depression, we saw moments emerge that initially challenged the ruling class. Both the populist movement of the 1890s, and social justice and labor movements of the 1930s led to a "thunder on the left" that terrified the ruling class. From William Jennings Bryan to Sinclair Lewis and Huey Long to Bernie Sanders, populist figures on the left are much more of a threat to Wall Street and the uber-rich than billionaire reality TV stars. As a result, the rich always know how to turn bottom-up led movements into top-down reform that actually benefits the wealthy with social stability and new consumer markets So, in this episode, Bob and Scott talk about the real meaning of Populism and the New Deal. Plus a shout out to our three new patrons supporting Green and Red on Patreon.com. And we close it out with a little Jefferson Airplane singing about how we're all in it together: "We are forces of chaos and anarchy, everything they say we are, we are, and we are very proud of ourselves. Up against the wall Motherfuckers." Thanks and stay safe out there! Also check us out on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook!

Mar 7, 2020 • 49min
G&R Episode 5: Climate Rebellion with Bea Ruiz
This episode, we get into the climate rebellion spreading across the globe with Bea Ruiz from Extinction Rebellion US (XR US).
We kick the episode off with a tribute to priest, poet and Sandinista Ernesto Cardenal who died on March 1st.
Then we go in depth with Bea on climate politics, Extinction Rebellion, the Big Green non-profit industrial complex, and solidarity with brown, black and poor white communities on the frontlines of fossil fuel extraction, as well as the legacy of Judi Bari. Bea is a longtime organizer in radical movements. Bea worked with Diablo Rising Tide, the Bay Area chapter of Rising Tide North America. She’s a member of XR US’s national team, a support team for XR US local groups.
Read more on:
Ernesto Cardenal:
With Walker in Nicaragua by Ernesto Cardenal
Ernesto Cardenal, poet and Catholic priest, still causes controversy at age 86
Judi Bari:
The Judi Bari website
A glimpse inside the FBI Investigation into Judi Bari and Earth First!
Extinction Rebellion:
The Baffler: Striking at the End of the World
Think Progress: Extinction Rebellion’s radical philosophy
Cherri Foytlin: Is XR America Going to ‘Make XR Great Again,’ or is it an XR EXIT?
Scott on the climate rebellion:
Why “Good Liberals” Won’t Save the Climate (2018)
When We Fight, We Fuck Shit Up: Keystone XL and Delegitimizing Fossil Fuels (2015)
Making Green A Threat Again (2013)
Scott also has a chapter on the recent history of direct action versus fossil fuels in the forthcoming "Climate Justice and Community Renewal" (Edited by Brian Tokar and Tamra Gilbertson) coming out in April.
As always follow us on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. And please consider becoming a patron of Green and Red on Patreon. You can also email us at greenredpodcast@gmail.com with any comments or feedback.

Mar 3, 2020 • 1h 7min
G&R Episode 4: Stupor Tuesday! Bob and Scott dish the dirt on the liberal establishment!
It's Stupor Tuesday, and Scott and Bob are gonna dish dirt on Liberals. Do you hate Liberals? Why not? Do you know what a liberal is? If not, we'll tell you. We talk about the history of American liberalism starting with Woodrow Wilson, through FDR, the creation of the National Security State and NSC-68, and liberal rhetoric about being the party of working people while really being bag boys for Wall Street and imperialists for mega-corporations.
We have a goal--we want to piss off at least 2/3 of the Liberals we know, so help us by sharing this on FB, Twitter, Instagram, and of course donating at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
Stevie Wonder riffs on Liberals:
We are amazed but not amused
By all the things you say that you'll do
Though much concerned but not involved
With decisions that are made by you
But we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Tellin' how you are gonna change right from wrong
'Cause if you really want to hear our views
You haven't done nothin'

Feb 27, 2020 • 49min
G&R Episode 3: The Story of SHAC with Jake Conroy
In this episode, we're joined by long-time animal rights activist, designer, writer and all around trouble-maker Jake Conroy. Jake was part of the Stop Huntington Animal Cruelty campaign, or SHAC, that campaigned against notorious animal testing company Huntington Life Sciences. SHAC bankrupted Huntington multiple times and were successful in getting them de-listed from the New York Stock Exchange.
The campaign was so effective, the federal government prosecuted Jake and his co-defendants, known as the SHAC 7, as domestic terrorists. After a highly publicized case, the SHAC 7 were found guilty on all charges, including the controversial Animal Enterprise Protection Act (now called the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act) and sentenced to a variety of prison terms and a $1,000,001 restitution fine. Jake was sentenced to 48 months, which he served in 2 prisons in southern California. He was released in 2009.
These days, you can see him sharing his view on many things, mostly related to the animal rights movement on his YouTube channel The Cranky Vegan.
He has been most recently featured in the new documentary, The Animal People, about the SHAC’s case. Executive produced by Joaquin Phoenix. Directed by Cassandra Suchan (Rock The Bells) and Dennis Henry Hennelly (Bold Native).

Jan 16, 2020 • 58min
G&R Episode 2: A conversation with Staughton Lynd
Welcome to the latest episode of Green and Red. A podcast about radical environmental and anti-capitalist politics. Brought to you by Bob Buzzanco and Scott Parkin. This episode welcomes renowned anti-war and civil rights activist, historian, author and lawyer Staughton Lynd. Staughton Lynd has been one of the most important American Activists/Scholars from the mid-20th Century onward. As a historian, he was one of the first prominent scholars associated with the "New Left" and he did pathbreaking work on the colonial war of liberation against the British Empire, situating it not just as a fight over Home Rule, but also "who should rule at home," i.e. what type of class relations would exist in the new country. Staughton was on the faculty at Spelman University where he and colleague Howard Zinn became active in the Civil Rights Movement (activity that cost Zinn his job there). Staughton became head of the Mississippi Summer Freedom Education Project, organized by SNCC. He then moved on to the faculty at Yale University, but that was short-lived. He traveled to northern Vietnam in 1965 as part of an antiwar contingent and the Liberals at Yale fired him for his political activity. After that he, and his wife, another acclaimed activist, Alice became lawyers specializing in Labor Law and Prison Reform. The Lynds moved to Niles, Ohio (also Bob Buzzanco's hometown) where Staughton became one of the leaders of a 1977 movement to save Youngstown, Ohio steel mills from closing down. He has been active in labor matters since and he and Alice also have defended death row prisoners and worked with military veterans on the issue of "moral injury."For more on Staughton, see, among others, his books Class Conflict, Slavery, and the United States Constitution: Ten Essays; Moral Injury & Nonviolent Resistance (with Alice Lynd); and The Fight Against Shutdowns: Youngstown's Steel Mill Closings. There is also a god biogaphy of Staughton, Carl Mirra's The Admirable Radical: Staughton Lynd and Cold War Dissent, 1945–1970. Staughton's Papers are archived at Kent State University: https://www.library.kent.edu/staughton-and-alice-lynd-papers. Outro- "Green and Red Blues" by Moody

Jan 11, 2020 • 49min
G&R Episode 1: Kick off with Bob and Scott!
Welcome to our podcast! Our kick-off episode is a rolling conversation with just us. We talk about environmentalism, electoralism, class politics, direct action and the state of the world. Most importantly, we give a preview of what's to come on Green and Red.You can read more from Bob at https://afflictthecomfortable.org/And more from Scott at https://www.counterpunch.org/author/sat8praq/Check us on social media: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instragram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast