

Green & Red: Podcasts for Scrappy Radicals
Green and Red
Welcome to our scrappy podcast. Bob Buzzanco and Scott Parkin co-host a regular podcast to discuss radical environmental and anti-capitalist politics with organizers, academics, artists and more.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
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Sep 28, 2021 • 50min
Oregon's Timber Wars and the Climate Crisis w/ Cascadia Forest Defense (G&R 112)
The Pacific Northwest has a long history of organizing and direct action around logging and timber industries. From the Wobblies trying to organize the logging sector in the early twentieth century to Earth First!'s campaigns to stop old growth logging to the new generation of forest defenders linking the struggle for wild places and communities to the climate crisis, direct action has always tried to get the goods.
For 25 years, since the epic timber wars of the 1990s in places like Warner Creek, Oregon, Cascadia Forest Defense (CFD) has been at the forefront of challenging the logging industry, complicit politicians, federal agencies and, in general, capitalism. In the past month, CFD has put up new tree-sit blockades to disrupt logging operations in the Willamette National Forest.
We talked with Daniel, an organizer with CFD, about past and present forest defense campaigns, Oregon's politics around forests, logging and wildfires; right-wing militias in the Northwest, the links to the climate crisis and the resurgence of forest defense campaigns up and down the Pacific Northwest.
Daniel is an organizer with Cascadia Forest Defense. CFD is a grassroots environmental organization committed to stopping the destruction of the Earth, particularly in the region known as Cascadia. The organize collective, nonviolent actions to disrupt the ecologically and economically exploitative industrial timber industry and the 1%.
Outro music by Mic Crenshaw on Emergency Hearts.
Links//
Cascadia Forest Defense (https://bit.ly/3lX9MD1)
Biden’s Climate Chops Face A Big Test On Old-Growth Forests(https://bit.ly/3lVXqeu)
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Issac.

Sep 22, 2021 • 58min
Col. Andrew Bacevich Talks about The Empire and The Apocalypse (G&R 111)
Green and Red had a great conversation with the well-known scholar (and Retired Colonel) Andrew Bacevich, whose new book is *After the Apocalypse.* We began by getting his views on the recent revelations regarding JCS Chair Mark Milley's role in opposing Trump's attempt to steal the election.
Then we discussed the key points in his book--his view on the dangers of American Exceptionalism, the damages done to society by immense military spending and the role of the Military-Industrial Complex, and the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and revived Cold War against China.
But most of our discussion centered on his book where he doesn't just discuss American interventions and wars, but the various crises that affect National Security, and in this conversation he groups COVID and American racial discrimination--as we saw in the 2020 protests--as dangers to American safety and stability.
Few Americans understand these issues better than Andrew Bacevich and this was a great and comprehensive discussion.
Links//
Andrew Bacevich: After the Apocalypse (https://bit.ly/39oI1O2)
WaPo: The age of American privilege is over (https://wapo.st/2ZeYliu)
Andrew Bacevich: Gen. Milley did the wrong thing for honorable reasons. We need new rules for starting nuclear war (https://bit.ly/3nOcJZh)
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Sep 13, 2021 • 45min
Minnesota Police Blocking Release of Info on Pipeline Protests w/ Will Parrish and Charlotte Grubb (G&R 110)
Indigenous women led movements have continued to disrupt the construction of Canadian oil giant Enbridge Energy's Line 3 pipeline with over a thousand arrested. Police have escalated in a multitude of ways (felony charges, high bails, rubber bullets, tear gas, etc) against water protecting pipeline opponents.
We know through the bold investigative journalism of The Intercept that Enbridge has created a fund through the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission to finance local and state police for pipeline security. The company and state collusion has essentially privatized the police for a Canadian oil company. The journalism has been so embarrassing for Enbridge and the state of Minnesota that they've been begun to erect barriers to release of public information.
We talk with investigative reporter Will Parrish and researcher Charlotte Grubb about this.
Will Parrish (@willparrishca) is an investigative reporter whose work is rooted in tradition of muckraking journalism. His reporting appears in The Intercept, The Guardian, The Nation, East Bay Express, Counterpunch, Shadowproof, and other online and print venues. Charlotte Grubb (@CharlotteGrubb) is a freelance researcher, writer and climate justice organizer. Her work focuses on stopping fossil fuel projects and creating a just transition that centers decolonization and building power outside of state institutions. She is currently based in New Mexico.
Links//
Will's website: www.willparrishreports.com
The Intercept: Minnesota Law Enforcement Agency Blocks Release of Public Records About Surveilling Pipeline Opponents (https://bit.ly/3zPYRkj)
The Intercept: Paid by the Pipeline. A Canadian Energy Company Bought an Oregon Sheriff’s Unit (https://bit.ly/3kVqD8P)
The Intercept: Dakota Access Pipeline Company Paid Mercenaries to Build Conspiracy Lawsuit Against Environmentalists (https://bit.ly/3n1nw1F)
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Sep 9, 2021 • 54min
Labor Day 2021 with Mike Elk of Payday Report (G&R 109)
Green and Red commemorates Labor Day with labor Journalist and founder of "Payday Report" Mike Elk (@MikeElk). We begin by talking about the historical origins of Labor Day in the U.S. (where Labor Day occurs in September rather than on May 1, like most of the world) and we pay tribute to the late Stanley Aronowitz.
We had a wide-ranging discussion with Mike Elk, who began by giving up updates on the Warrior Met Coal strike in Alabama and the Amazon union drive that took place there earlier this year. After that we spoke about the role of labor in the post World War II period, and discussed the importance of people such as Ed Asner, Walter Mondale, and William Greider. We also talked about what to expect from the AFL-CIO with new President Liz Shuler and the legacy of the late Richard Trumka. We, again, paid tribute to the brave women who were fired from Collin College and pointed out how the New York Left did nothing to help them. Finally, we talked about the role of "gatekeepers" in labor journalism and education--the way that people who don't have working-class backgrounds have come to dominate the way we on the Left talk about labor.
Links//
Payday Report: https://paydayreport.com/
Gallup: Approval of Labor Unions at Highest Point Since 1965 (https://bit.ly/2VfsWe2)
Stanley Aronowitz, Labor Scholar and Activist, Dies at 88 (https://nyti.ms/3DRFqdw)
The Nation: Ed Asner, American Socialist (https://bit.ly/3tdJfoe)
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Sep 7, 2021 • 1h 15min
Hurricane Ida and Mutual Aid w/ Suncere Ali Shakur and scott crow (G&R 108)
Last week, Hurricane Ida, a category four storm, made landfall on the Gulf Coast. Over a million people were without power and 16 were killed. The hurricane then moved up the east coast hitting New York and New Jersey with powerful winds and floods. At least 52 people are reported dead in the Northeast. Ida made landfall on the 16th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. Katrina was a category 5 storm that caused over 1800 deaths and $125 billion in damage.
An important part of the stories of Hurricanes Katrina and Ida has been mutual aid. During and after Katrina, an anarchist modeled relief effort called Common Ground Disaster Relief began in New Orleans to support impacted communities in the storm's aftermath. After Katrina and Common Ground, mutual aid networks have been growing to mobilize support those suffering from hurricanes, wildfires and various other disasters.
To talk about Ida, Katrina and mutual aid, we are joined by two co-founders of Common Ground- Suncere Ali Shakur and scott crow With them, we discuss hope, community, disaster response by just regular people (not bureaucrats or professional non-profits) and becoming experts in the impossible.
Suncere Ali Shakur. Originally from NW DC around 7th Kennedy St . Activists fronts include far housing , homeless, police brutality, anti-war and globalization. Gay rights, Education and co founder of Common Ground Relief New Orleans Mutual Aid Disaster Relief, Cleveland Ohio’s Wolfpack Gunshot Response Team . A disciple of the black Panther party and a self proclaimed George Jacksoness.
scott crow (@scott_crow) is an anarchist, speaker, author, organizer, musician and story teller. He's author of Black Flags and Windmills:Hope, Anarchy and the Common Ground Collective (PM Press) and a number of other books. scott has co-founded a number of diverse projects, businesses and organizations rooted in cooperative power sharing models including the Common Ground Collective, the largest anarchist inspired organization in modern US history, Treasure City Thrift, an anarchist worker coop, Red Square, an art coop, Century Modern, an antique coop and UPROAR, a community based organization, Dirty South Earth First! and the Radical Encuentro Camp.
Outro music is Stealth Empire (feat. Mark Stewart) by Nun Gun on the Emergency Hearts label.
Links//
'Human toll was tremendous': Ida's death count rises while 600,000 still lack power (https://reut.rs/3tmwqI8)
Suncere Shakur Reporting back from Far Rockaway, Queens (https://bit.ly/3thqTTq)
scott crow: www.scottcrow.org/
Mutual Aid Disaster Relief:https://mutualaiddisasterrelief.org/
Mutual aid groups give personalized help after Hurricane Ida (https://abcn.ws/3BMPzGh)
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Aug 30, 2021 • 31min
Pipeline Saboteur Jessica Reznicek Sentenced to Prison w/ climate justice organizer Alex Cohen (G&R 107)
Jessica Reznicek is a land and water defender who worked with the Catholic Worker Community in Des Moines, IA. In 2016, she began to organize against the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline in Iowa. When the regulatory, political and even civil disobedience channels didn't work, she concluded the system was broken. Then, she, and a fellow Catholic Worker, began to disable construction machinery along the pipeline route. No one was injured by their actions, and the land was protected from the flow of oil for an additional six months. Months after that, she and her collaborator publicly confessed to their sabotage actions.
In February, Jessica pleaded guilty to one count of Conspiracy to Damage an Energy Facility. In June, the court designated her a "terrorist" and sentenced her to eight years in prison.
We speak with Alex Cohen of the Free Jessica team (@FreeJessRez). Alex is a climate justice organizer and rabble rouser.
More from Green and Red//
Support Jessica: https://supportjessicareznicek.com/
Des Moines Register: Iowa climate activist sentenced to eight years in federal prison for Dakota Access pipeline sabotage (https://bit.ly/3Do0FTK) Greenpeace: Pipeline exec says whoever vandalized Dakota Access Pipeline should be ‘removed from the gene pool’ (https://bit.ly/3mJmRlg)
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Aug 19, 2021 • 1h 8min
The end of America's forever war w/ Afghan vet Graham Clumpner (G&R 106)
America's forever war in Afghanistan ended with the withdrawal of U.S. troops after a twenty year war and occupation. A speedy summer offensive by the Taliban through quickly led to the fall of Kabul. Images of the Taliban in the Afghan presidential palace, crowds running after departing American aircraft and frightened Afghans remembering earlier Taliban rule pervade our screens. Since the terror attacks on September 11th, the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and the never-ending Global War on Terror, the U.S. has spent great amounts of "blood and treasure" to only make matters worse. Now there seems to be a reckoning with a war many tried to forget. Scott talks with anti-war veteran of the war in Afghanistan Graham Clumpner about the legacy of the war, the threat of the new Taliban regime, what the anti-war movements got wrong, the true costs of war and about the impacts of the end of the war on its veterans. Graham Clumpner (@turncoatveteran) is an libertarian socialist, anti-war U.S. military veteran of the war in Afghanistan, environmentalist and direct action organizer in the Pacific Northwest. This is the third of three episodes focusing on the forever wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan.More// ‘Why did my friend get blown up? For what?’: Afghanistan war veterans horrified by Taliban gains (https://wapo.st/37UWel3) About Face: https://aboutfaceveterans.org/ Veterans for Peace: https://www.veteransforpeace.org/ HELPING HERE IN U.S.// If you want to volunteer for airport pickup, apartment setups, and/or meals for Afghans, go to https://t.co/bw2zeqFzQL?amp=1 If you want to help provide transportation, housing, and other basic needs for Afghans at Fort Lee in Virginia, go to https://t.co/Z8lV7hJrnQ?amp=1 If you are an attorney and you would like to help with Afghan pro bono cases, please sign up here: https://t.co/MWzKmRr6tN?amp=1 Here are NGOs/charities working in Afghanistan you can support: https://t.co/CnqMuWdY8q?amp=1 MONITORING THE SITUATION: Go to No One Left Behind and join their mailing list. Follow the #SaveOurAllies hashtag to monitor updates and potential resources.More from Green and Red// Buzzanco (2001): Five reasons why America should not be at war (https://bit.ly/3mjjJfR) Green and Red on the anniversary of September 11th (https://bit.ly/911GandR) Green and Red w/ Graham Clumpner on "War is a Racket." (https://apple.co/37VsAMo) Graham on Green and Red Media: https://greenandredpodcast.org/graham-clumpner/Follow Green and Red//🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast🌐 Website: https://greenandredpodcast.org💬 Join our Discord community: https://discord.gg/M24GyqrS📰 Follow us on Substack: https://greenandredpodcast.substack.com🌌 Follow us on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/podcastgreenred.bsky.social Donate to Green and Red Podcast//🎉 Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast☕ One-time donation: https://bit.ly/DonateGandRThis is a Green and Red Podcast production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac.

Aug 19, 2021 • 49min
Deep Background on Afghanistan (G&R 105)
This weekend, we saw the Taliban seize Kabul ending the 20 year war and occupation of Afghanistan. Afghan president Ashraf Ghani fled the country. The sudden and dramatic Taliban gains came as the U.S. withdrew its ground troops from Afghanistan. Aid groups are warning of a humanitarian crisis unfolding. Since January, nearly 400,000 have been displaced. Over 1,000 civilians have been killed or injured in fighting over the past month. The images of U.S. helicopters flying over the U.S. embassy brought back memories of the April 1975 evacuation of the U.S. embassy in Saigon.
Bob and Scott bring you a deep background on U.S. involvement in Afghanistan. We talked about several issues, including the interventions by the Cold War hawk administrations of Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, the importance of resources like Rare Earth Minerals in the U.S. mission in Afghanistan and the "blowback" in Afghanistan of the U.S. funding of the mujahedin to fight the Soviets that led to the emergence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. As well as the costs of the war in Afghanistan since 2001.
This is the second of three episodes focusing on the forever wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
More//
VIDEO Blinken: This is not Saigon. (https://cnn.it/3k51OqC)
Costs of the Afghanistan War, in Lives and Dollars (https://bit.ly/3svpFU5)
Brown University: Costs of War. (https://bit.ly/3y19rTI)
Professor David Gibbs’ Publications on Afghanistan. (https://bit.ly/3D1nAEo)
Why Biden was so set on withdrawing from Afghanistan (https://bit.ly/2XtfsvV)
How the U.S. Got Involved in Afghanisgtan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGE3pQejpo4&t=10s)
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Buzzanco (2001): Five reasons why America should not be at war (https://bit.ly/3mjjJfR)
Green and Red on the anniversary of September 11th (https://bit.ly/911GandR)
Green and Red on Cold War hawk Jimmy Carter (https://apple.co/3sucF0V)
Buzzanco: Jimmy Carter is a Liberal Saint Now, Was a War Criminal Then….. (https://bit.ly/2R0cU5m)
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Aug 17, 2021 • 45min
Whistleblower Daniel Hale and the Horrors of the U.S. Drone Wars w/ Noor Mir (G&R 104)
Last month, whistleblower Daniel Hale was sentenced to 45 months in prison after pleading guilty to violating the Espionage Act in March. During his time in the Air Force from 2009 to 2013, Hale worked with the National Security Agency and the Joint Special Operations Task Force at the Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, where he helped identify targets for assassination. He later worked as a contractor for the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency.
After leaving the Air Force, Hale became an outspoken opponent of the drone program, U.S. Foreign Policy and vocal supporter of whistleblowers.
In 2019, Hale was arrested and indicted for leaking classified documents about the U.S. drone assassination program. He's believed to be the source for the Intercept's series called "The Drone Papers."
We speak with Noor Mir (@thedronalisa), a close friend of Hale and a member of the Daniel Hale Support Team (@TeamDanielHale), about Daniel's story. She talks about Daniel's background, how he came to be a whistleblower and his current status in federal custody. We also discuss the Espionage Act, Obama's drone wars, and responses to his case on the left, right and in the media.
Noor is a DC based organizer, anti-imperialist and rabble-rouser. She was the anti-drone campaigner for Code Pink.
This is the first of three episodes focusing on the forever wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
More//
Support Daniel Hale: https://standwithdanielhale.org/
New York Magazine: Call Me a Traitor. Daniel Hale exposed the machinery of America’s clandestine warfare. Why did no one seem to care?. (https://nym.ag/3ANYeYD)
Daniel at the 2013 Code Pink Drone Summit. (Daniel's talk begins at the 29 minute mark.) (https://bit.ly/3m74re9)
WaPo: Daniel Hale, who leaked information on U.S. drone warfare, sentenced to 45 months in prison. (https://wapo.st/2W3XhfP)
Groups Daniel is asking us to support//
Sister Reach (https://bit.ly/3CXJ58U)
Free Black Mamas (https://bit.ly/3sotieF)
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Aug 11, 2021 • 1h 23min
What the Left Owes Cuba (G&R 103)
Since the protests in Cuba on July 11th, the U.S. media has been promoting aggressive action if not intervention against Havana. But even segments of the self-described Left, especially social democrats in New Politics magazine, have been attacking the Diaz-Canel government, supporting the protests in Cuba, and dismissing the larger political-cum-power issues at play in this episode.
Scott and Bob broke down the background to the protests and the Left abandonment of socialist solidarity, talking about Cuba's health system, its life span and infant mortality rates (which compare favorably to the U.S.), its educational system, its world-best sustainable environmental system, and its role in defending Left movements in Latin America, South Africa, Vietnam, Palestine, and elsewhere.
We also talked about the inherent role that Miami plays in any "dissident" movement in Cuba.
And we'll send you out with some salsa music from a Havana bar.
See also//
"Cuba Has Trained 170 Doctors from the U.S. for Free" (https://bit.ly/3CGAMhC)
Vijay Prashad, "Why Cuban Doctors Deserve the Nobel Peace Prize" (https://bit.ly/3AC1Tsf)
"Cuba Ranks as World's Most Sustainable Developed Country" (https://bit.ly/2VEgh4L)
World Bank data on Cuban Life Expectancy (https://bit.ly/3jKJlQ3)
Bob Buzzanco, "Fidel Castro (1926-2016) and Global Solidarity" (https://bit.ly/3fUWqVI)
Bob Buzzanco, "Cuba, Race, and African Liberation" (https://bit.ly/3AAttGm)
Bob Buzzanco interview on "Flashpoints" on Cuba (https://bit.ly/3AyJ2i2)
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