

Green & Red: Podcasts for Scrappy Radicals
Green and Red
Welcome to our scrappy podcast. Bob Buzzanco and Scott Parkin co-host a regular podcast to discuss radical environmental and anti-capitalist politics with organizers, academics, artists and more.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
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Aug 23, 2022 • 1h 24min
Best of G&R: The Military vs. Donald J. Trump. Generals Tell Trump to "Stand Down!" (G&R 176)
Not unlike our (not so) esteemed leadership in Congress, Green and Red will be out on a little August recess. We will be back with new episodes soon. In the meantime here's a "Best of Green and Red" episode from June 2020 on Trump vs. his generals. It's a repost referenced in last week's episode on divides in the Ruling Class.
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From June 2020:
Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969) talk about the recent public repudiation of Donald Trump's attempts to use the military against American citizens in pursuit of a racial war by ranking military officials, not just retired but active-duty as well.
In an amazing two weeks, one of the more incredible developments has been the open resistance of military officials to Trump's attempts to militarize American cities and likely kill protestors. Starting with retired Generals and Admirals and percolating into the dissent of active-duty officers, the military, America's most respected institution, has stood up to Trump and, even more, made a sharp statement against racism and defended the right to protest.
These people aren't radical and don't have the same interests as protestors, but have put the brakes on Trump, for the time being at least. They've also give people in the streets more legitimacy and space. They're not long-term allies necessarily, but they have helped the millions who are rebelling right now.
For more on this topic, see Buzzanco, "Cracks in the Empire: The Military Says 'Stand Down' to Trump" and Masters of War: Military Dissent and Politics in the Vietnam Era
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Aug 16, 2022 • 54min
The Ruling Class v. Donald J. Trump Redux. The FBI "Visits" Mar-A-Lago and Trump's War with his Generals (G&R 175)
No more Panic Porn!
Many/most liberals and much of the left has been panicking and in fear over "fascism" and "coups" for the past couple years--we call it "panic porn"--but Green & Red has been analyzing the objective conditions set by the ruling class and have been pointing out that key elements of the elite who run America, especially in the military and Wall Street, opposed Trump and would stop him--which they did.
This week excerpts from a new book, "The Divider," by Peter Baker and Susan Glasser, have confirmed what Bob and Scott were talking about since 2020 (see episodes below)--that the military was wary of Trump and making plans to thwart his efforts during the George Floyd uprisings and the election steal. At the same time the 1/6 Commission and FBI are closing in on Trump as well, and much of the GOP establishment will be happy to see him taken down.
Panic is never a strategy, organization and direct action are. The ruling class is powerful, but there are divergences in it that we can exploit.
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Outro- "Stop! Don't Worry" by Lonette
Links//
New Yorker: Inside the War Between Trump and His Generals (https://bit.ly/3C4ilpi)
Fortune: A list of companies supporting abortion rights after the Roe v. Wade ruling shows which firms are stepping up, and why. (https://bit.ly/3C5YFRN)
G&R Links//
G&R:The Military vs. Donald J. Trump (https://apple.co/3cDUso8)
G&R: The Coup That Wasn't (https://bit.ly/RulingClassGandR)
G&R: The Capitol Hill Riots and the Ruling Class (https://bit.ly/RiotsRulingClassGandR)
G&R: Baseball and Bosses vs. the Georgia GOP (https://bit.ly/CorpResistGandR)
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Aug 9, 2022 • 1h 22min
Iraq, Oil, Capitalism, and the U.S. War w/ Prof. Brandon Wolfe-Hunnicutt (G&R 174)
Bob had a great talk (Scott's on assignment) with Professor Brandon Wolfe-Hunnicutt (@hunnicuttwolfe) of Cal State-Stanislaus, author of *The Paranoid Style in American Diplomacy: Oil and Arab Nationalism in Iraq* about Iraqi history from the Ottoman Empire to the present, with an emphasis on the period from 1958 to the 1970s.
Before Iraq became the target of a massive U.S. intervention, it was a British colony, and then a kingdom, which achieved sovereignty in a 1958 revolution led by Karim Kasim. However, the U.S., especially President John F. Kennedy, began to oppose the Kasim regime and helped engineer a 1963 coup against him and then sending support to the new regime to isolate and kill Kasim backers and others, especially communists.
We talked about the role of Nasserism in Iraq, the importance of the Communist Party, the politics of oil, the perhaps surprising opposition of American oil companies to the U.S.-backed coups d'etat, and the policies of JFK and LBJ.
The country the U.S. attacked and devastated in two wars in the 1990s and early 2000s was the product of long-term American interference and meddling.
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The Paranoid Style in American Diplomacy: Oil and Arab Nationalism in Iraq (https://bit.ly/3d74eoW)
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Aug 2, 2022 • 1h 13min
Leslie James Pickering on the ELF, the Green Scare and "Burning Books" (G&R 173)
From the 1980s through the 2000s, there was a period of growth in militant environmental and animal rights movements. This movement had a radical anti-capitalist politic that went after corporations waging war on the earth, people and animals. It's escalating tactics included property destruction and arson. In response, industry, government and the FBI worked to crack down on these radical movements.
This movement needed voices. Leslie James Pickering (@lesliejamespick) was one of a few that worked with the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) Press Office to communicate the message of the anonymous actors engaged in these strategies and tactics to the larger world.
In our latest episode, we speak with Leslie James Pickering about his story of supporting radical environmentalists and, in particular, the Earth Liberation Front. We also discuss how the FBI continued to target him long after his ELF press office days. We also talk about how he sees movements around ecology and climate today. And his work at Burning Books creating radical politics, education and infrastructure in Buffalo, NY.
Leslie is the former spokesperson for the Earth Liberation Front Press Office, a 20-year target of the FBI, an author and co-owner of Burning Books (@BurningBooks)
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Burning Books: https://burningbooks.com/
Leslie's books on PM Press (https://bit.ly/3PIpmzL)
Amid protests, fear and rising sales, Buffalo's 'radical bookstore' plans to expand (https://bit.ly/3aRaWyo)
NY Times: U.S. Postal Service Logging All Mail for Law Enforcement (https://nyti.ms/3PIpwal)
Former Earth Liberation Front spokesman files federal suit for information from FBI (https://bit.ly/3PocIpX)
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Jul 26, 2022 • 1h 9min
Leave the Gun, Take the Podcast: "The Godfather at 50" and its political meaning (G&R 172)
"The Godfather" movies are on the short list of the most consequential American films ever, not just for their cinematic quality but because they've become a textbook for politics as well. In this episode Scott and Bob celebrated the 50th Anniversary of the release of the movie with a discussion of the way the movie is a deep analysis of American capitalism and politics.
We talk about the way Don Corleone wielded power, the relationship between the mob and "legitimate" businesses, the attempt to break into the Cuban market, the Corleone influence in Las Vegas, and so much more.
Pop Culture is an important venue for analyzing the way politics is wielded and how many of the lessons of The Godfather are evident in our everyday lives.
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If you want to understand America and politics, read The Godfather (https://bit.ly/3z0jdrJ)
The Godfather Films: The Political (Ir)Relevance Of A Timeless Classic (https://bit.ly/3yWIJ1k)
Michael Cohen Once Called Trump the ‘Godfather of Politics’ (https://bit.ly/3aRspXH)
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Jul 19, 2022 • 47min
The George Floyd Uprisings Are Still Happening... For Those Doing Time (G&R 171)
In May 2020, we saw millions hit the streets over the police murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis. It’s been argued to be the largest protests in history. The government moved in immediately to repress those taking the streets against the police and racial violence.
We saw intense protest, resistance, violent repression by police and other forces and media attention in Minneapolis, Louisville, Portland and Kenosha WI. But also in places less known like Grand Rapids Michigan and Champaign IL. More than 350 people were arrested on federal charges while city and state level arrests topped 14,000 between May-Nov 2020.
In our latest episode, we talk with Sarah with Uprisings Support. We talk about the ongoing legal struggles of people arrested and facing serious charges from the 2020 uprisings and how Uprising Support continues to support those in jail and awaiting trial.
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Uprising Support (https://uprisingsupport.org)
Law 4 Black Lives (http://www.law4blacklives.org/)
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Jul 14, 2022 • 1h 20min
Woody Guthrie Turns 110! His Life and Politics w/ Prof. Mark Allan Jackson (G&R 170)
Woody Guthrie is the most influential political singer and songwriter of the 20th Century. July 14th is Woody's 110th birthday, so we had a fantastic discussion with Mark Allan Jackson, a scholar on popular culture and music. He's an English professor at Middle Tennessee State and author of "Prophet Singer: The Voice and Vision of Woody Guthrie" and editor of "The Honky Tonk on the Left: Progressive Thought in Country Music."
We discussed Woody's political music and activism, especially on socialism, labor, civil rights, his songs about war and peace, and his larger meaning and legacy.
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Music//
"Jolly Banker," "Pretty Boy Floyd" and "I Ain't Got No Home" by Woody Guthrie
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Mark Allan Jackson: "Prophet Singer: The Voice and Vision of Woody Guthrie" (https://bit.ly/3ukcSGq)
Trump’s Dad Was So Racist, Woody Guthrie Wrote A Song About It (https://bit.ly/3yDsuao)
Dark Memory: A Look at Lynching in America through the Life, Times, and Songs of Woody Guthrie (https://bit.ly/3NFtfnq)
People's World: Ode to a labor troubadour, Woody Guthrie (https://bit.ly/3yfHRV0)
G&R: Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, John Prine and Left Politics in Country Music w/ Prof. Mark Allan Jackson (https://bit.ly/LeftCountryGandR)
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Jul 8, 2022 • 14min
Donate to Green & Red Podcast, Get Books!
We’ve gotten a lot more donors this year and we really appreciate it and we’d like to have a few more. We run on a shoestring budget but we do have to pay for some tech help and promotions.
G&R co-host Bob Buzzanco has a number of history books that he's edited or written that he's donating to the G&R cause. So, we're running a special Green and Red fundraising event!
The books edited by Buzzanco include:
Question Authority: Resistance and Protest in Early U.S. History
American Power, American People (U.S. from Colonial Period to Civil War)
Reelin' in the Years: The United States Since 1945
As They Said It, Volume I: The Colonial Era to Reconstruction
As They Said, Volume II: Reconstruction to the Present
American Society Since 1900
Readings and Documents in Post-1945 U.S. History
War, Imperialism and Dissent: Readings in U.S. Foreign Policy
The Vietnam War
If you donate $35, we’ll send you one. Donate $60 and you get 3. Donate $125 and you get all 7.
And three others written by Buzzanco include: Masters of War; Vietnam and the Transformation of American Life; Blackwell Companion to the Vietnam War.
Since they’re in short supply, we’ll send you one autographed copy for a $100 donation.
And then if you are with institutional left media (Jacobin, The Nation), prices are doubled. If you are with the corporate oil and gas, nuclear or banking sectors, prices are tripled. And, of course, prices are quadrupled for law enforcement.
If you want to donate and get a book, you can email us at greenredpodcast@gmail.com or DM us on Facebook/Instagram/Twitter.
You can donate to Green & Red at https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
You can also become a recurring donor at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
Blog post with all the details: https://bit.ly/3nMBdRp
Thanks for all the support and being such a great audience!
In solidarity, Scott and Bob

Jul 5, 2022 • 49min
Animal Liberation and Direct Action ft. Jake Conroy and Tylor Starr w/ Radicals and Revolutionaries (G&R 169)
In our latest, we're joined by our friend and comrade Jake Conroy (@_jakeconroy) and his co-host Tylor Starr (@TylorStarr). We talk about their new podcast, Radicals and Revolutionaries, which documents the history of direct action in the animal rights movements.
We get into history, strategy and direct action. All of our favorite things to talk about!
Radicals and Revolutionaries is an oral history podcast documenting the radical animal liberation movement and the revolutionaries who started it.
Tylor Starr is a digital creator and animal rights activist. He's also co-host of Chickpeeps Podcast and president of the Protego Foundation. Jake Conroy (@_jakeconroy) is an activist and former political prisoner. He's the host of "The Cranky Vegan" on YouTube.
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Radicals and Revolutionaries: https://radicalsandrevolutionaries.com/
Radicals and Revolutionaries on Instagram: https://instagram.com/radicalsandrevolutionaries
The Cranky Vegan (https://bit.ly/39Y7cLe)
Chickpeeps: https://www.thechickpeeps.com/
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Jun 27, 2022 • 1h 6min
Capital’s war on the working class w/ Prof. Chad Pearson and Prof. Ahmed White (G&R 168)
“The remedy” to labor troubles, said J. West Goodwin, a Missouri businessman and newspaperman “is a counter organization.”
In a fascinating conversation around the history of capital and labor, we dive deep into the business sector's remedies to workers organizing unions, blacks seeking greater liberation and other forms of progress. We talk about laws criminalizing syndicalism and the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), vigilante groups from the Ku Klux Klan to committees of "law and order" doing the bidding of the ruling class and private security forces that the bosses hire to repress labor organizing. We also discuss current events paralleling the earlier periods of labor and progressive repression.
We talk about race, class and the iron heel of the state coming down on all those that resist it.
We talk with Prof. Ahmed White at the University of Colardo Boulder, and Prof. Chad Pearson at Collin College about their forthcoming books (see the bios below) on the topics.
Bios//
Ahmed White is the Nicholas Rosenbaum Professor of Law at the University of Colorado-Boulder where he has taught labor and criminal law since 2000. He is the author of The Last Great Strike: Little Steel, the CIO, and the Struggle for Labor Rights in New Deal America (Oakland: University of California Press, 2016) as well as a great many law review articles, book chapters, reviews, and essays. His current book, Under the Iron Heel: The Wobblies and the Capitalist War on Radical Workers, will be published later this year by the University of California Press and he is presently at work on another book, this one about communist organizing and labor repression in the 1920s and 1930s.
Chad Pearson teaches history at Collin College, a community college in Plano, Texas. He is the author of Reform or Repression: Organizing America’s Anti-Union Movement (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 2016) and is co-editor with Rosemary Feurer (pronounced Foyer) of Against Labor: How U.S. Employers Organized to Defeat Union Activism (Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 2017). He has published essays in Counterpunch, History Compass, Jacobin, Journal of Labor and Society, Labor History, Labour/Le Travail, and Monthly Review. His current book, Capital’s Terrorists: Klansmen, Lawmen, and Employers in the Long Nineteenth Century, will be published by the University of North Carolina Press later this year.
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Outro// "Union Burying Ground" by Woody Guthrie
Links//
Pearson: Capital’s Terrorists: Klansmen, Lawmen, and Employers in the Long Nineteenth Century (https://bit.ly/3zQ8anh)
White: Under the Iron Heel The Wobblies and the Capitalist War on Radical (https://bit.ly/3n301Ev)
The Ku Klux Klan Was Also a Bosses’ Association (https://bit.ly/3y8tQtn)
The Right-Wing Violence Trump Has Encouraged Has Deep Roots in American History (https://bit.ly/3tSrr3v)
Memorial Day, 1937 (https://bit.ly/39Fo611)
Law, Labor, and the Hard Edge of Progressivism: The Legal Repression of Radical Unionism and the American Labor Movement's Long Decline (https://bit.ly/3HEbW55)
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