

Green & Red: Podcasts for Scrappy Radicals
Green and Red
Welcome to our scrappy podcast. Bob Buzzanco and Scott Parkin co-host a regular podcast to discuss radical environmental and anti-capitalist politics with organizers, academics, artists and more.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
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Jul 26, 2023 • 23min
Noam Chomsky on 9/11 . . . Interview w/ Bob Buzzanco on 9/13/2001, from the Green & Red Archives (G&R 238)
On September 13th, 2001, G&R co-host Bob Buzzanco was fortunate to have one, if not the, first interviews w/ Noam Chomsky about the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Here the Green & Red Archives reprises that interview as an important document of the era and of Chomsky's history of dissent.
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Jul 17, 2023 • 56min
Direct Action Gets the Goods: Stop Cop City, Animal Liberation and more ft. Jake Conroy (G&R 238)
We welcome back our friend, comrade and maker of trouble Jake Conroy (@_jakeconroy) to discuss the state of direct action. We talk about the state repression of activists in Atlanta and elsewhere, the lessons of 2020, strategies to win and whether there is anything to be optimistic about.
Jake Conroy is the host of "The Cranky Vegan" on YouTube, and co-host of the podcast "Radicals and Revolutionaries." He's a long-time animal rights activist who was sentenced to 4 years in prison for his involvement in one of the most successful animal rights campaigns in history – Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (SHAC USA). Jake Conroy has been involved in a wide range of activism since 1995.
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Outro- "Magic Carpet Ride" by Steppenwolf
Links//
+The Cranky Vegan (https://bit.ly/39Y7cLe)
+Radicals and Revolutionaries: https://radicalsandrevolutionaries.com/
+Radicals and Revolutionaries on Instagram: https://instagram.com/radicalsandrevo...
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Jul 14, 2023 • 1h 20min
Woody Guthrie's Birthday Hootenanny, w/ Prof Mark Jackson . . . Green & Red Encore from 2022 (G&R 237)
Woody Guthrie is the most influential political singer and songwriter of the 20th Century. July 14th is Woody's 110th birthday, so we had a fantastic discussion with Mark Allan Jackson, a scholar on popular culture and music. He's author of "Prophet Singer: The Voice and Vision of Woody Guthrie" and editor of "The Honky Tonk on the Left: Progressive Thought in Country Music."
We discussed Woody's political music and activism, especially on socialism, labor, civil rights, his songs about war and peace, and his larger meaning and legacy.
video tag:
#Green_and Red_Podcast
#woody #guthrie #Turns 110
#mark #Mark_Allan_Jackson
(Woody Guthrie Turns 110! His Life and Politics w/ Prof. Mark Allan Jackson)
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Music//
"Jolly Banker," "Pretty Boy Floyd" and "I Ain't Got No Home" by Woody Guthrie
Links//
**Mark Allan Jackson: "Prophet Singer: The Voice and Vision of Woody Guthrie" (https://bit.ly/3ukcSGq)
**Trump’s Dad Was So Racist, Woody Guthrie Wrote A Song About It (https://bit.ly/3yDsuao)
**Dark Memory: A Look at Lynching in America through the Life, Times, and Songs of Woody Guthrie (https://bit.ly/3NFtfnq)
**People's World: Ode to a labor troubadour, Woody Guthrie (https://bit.ly/3yfHRV0)
**G&R: Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, John Prine and Left Politics in Country Music w/ Prof. Mark Allan Jackson (https://bit.ly/LeftCountryGandR)
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Jul 10, 2023 • 1h 22min
Noam Chomsky on the Coming War w/ Iraq--October 2002 from the Green & Red Archives (G&R 236)
Noam Chomsky, renowned American linguist and political activist, delivers a historically driven argument against intervention in the Middle East and exposes the deceitful narratives of the government and media leading up to the Iraq War. He discusses the influence of the military-industrial complex, questions the motives behind changes in US foreign policy, and highlights the effectiveness of fear in the war on terror. Chomsky examines the actions of the Reagan administration, the crimes of September 11th, and emphasizes the importance of critical analysis to bring about change.

Jul 3, 2023 • 1h 1min
"The Last Honest Man": The Church Committee and the U.S. Empire w/ Pulitzer-winner James Risen (G&R 235)
James Risen is a two-time Pulitzer winner and investigative journalist who's just written a great book about Senator Frank Churck, *The Last Honest Man.*
In this interview we go into detail about the impact of Vietnam on
Church's political evolution, the creation of the Church Committee, the CIA's subversion and assassinations, the role of presidents--both Democratic and GOP--in subverting foreign nations, and more.
Church is one of the more important figures in the history of American anti-Imperialism and this is a must-see/must-hear interview.
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Outro- "CIA Man" by The Fugs
Links//
+The Last Honest Man: The CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, and the Kennedys—and One Senator's Fight to Save Democracy (https://bit.ly/46rgFmB)
+The Intercept: Church and State. How the Murder of a CIA Officer Was Used to Silence the Agency’s Greatest Critic. (https://bit.ly/3CTmSKo)
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Jun 26, 2023 • 40min
Power and Participation in Union Negotiations w/ author Abby Lawlor (G&R 234)
Union organizing is on the rise. Headlines regularly highlight worker organizing drives at Starbucks, Amazon and other workplaces. Bosses and politicians like Joe Biden (despite claiming to be the "most pro-union president ever") do everything they can to slow or stop organizing and strikes. To ensure strong unions, workers need to educated, organize and build power. This includes effective bargaining and contract negotiations.
We talk with author, labor attorney and organizer Abby Lawlor (@aflawlor) about efforts to democratize union negotiations and build worker power with open negotiations. She's the co-author of "Rules to Win By: Power and Participation in Union Negotiations."
Bio//
Abby Lawlor is an attorney, organizer, and researcher based in Seattle, Washington. She is currently a legal fellow at the Public Rights Project.
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Outro- "G&R Blues" by Moody
Links//
+ Rules to Win By: Power and Participation in Union Negotiations (https://bit.ly/3NICRRI)
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Jun 20, 2023 • 58min
Trump Was A Joke! Countering Trump's Absurdity with Satire w/ Prof. Sophia McClennen (G&R 233)
Trump’s public life has long been a target of comedians and satirists. His notorious thin skin often led to him lashing out on Twitter and Truth Social at the likes of Alec Baldwin and Seth Meyers. Like other authoritarian, or wannabe authoritarians, humor become a strategy to confront the Trump regime. As some experts say, comedy is an incredibly important method of non-violent protest and satire can be a way to energize and mobilize a mass of people resisting politicians like Trump.
In our latest, we talk with Prof. Sophia McClennen (@mcclennen65) about how comedians were able to counter Trump's absurdity with satire and humor. We also talked about how it's used to undermine authoritarians in other parts of the world. And we discussed political comedians Tina Fey, Michael Moore and Al Franken.
Bio//
Sophia A. McClennen is Director of the Center for Global Studies and Professor of International Affairs and Comparative Literature at Pennsylvania State University, State College, PA. She's the author of numerous books, including “Trump Was A Joke: How Satire Made Sense of a President Who Didn’t.” She’s also a regular contributor to Salon.com
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Outro- "Green and Red Blues" by Moody
Links//
+ Prof. Sophia McClennen: https://www.sophiamcclennen.com/
+ "Trump Was a Joke How Satire Made Sense of a President Who Didn’t" (https://bit.ly/3qSrkXc)
+ Salon: The news media is blowing Trump coverage again (https://bit.ly/3JmC4TY)
+ Salon: Sick of Trump? Try laughing at him (https://bit.ly/3PuICng)
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Jun 17, 2023 • 1h 7min
Remembering Daniel Ellsberg, 1931-2023 (February 2003 Speech in Houston) (G&R 232)
Today we're all saddened to hear that Daniel Ellsberg had died. Ellsberg's life is well-known, and he's one of the more important figures in the history of American dissent and radicalism.
In February 2003, Green and Red co-host Bob Buzzanco was really lucky, and honored, to host Dan Ellsberg in Houston, where he talked about the Vietnam War, nuclear weapons, the breakup of the Soviet Union, and the coming war against Iraq, and he finished by talking about his case and the need for whistleblowers in government.
And so, as we remember Dan Ellsberg's magisterial contribution to the causes we care about, here are his words from 2003.
Daniel Ellsberg, Presente . . .
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About Daniel Ellsberg//
Daniel Ellsberg was a Marine in the 1950s, took a Ph.D. at Harvard, and then joined the RAND corporation as an analyst. In 1964, Defense Secretary Robert McNamara brought in Ellsberg as an advisor and he was assigned to study pacification in Vietnam along with the legendary General Edward Lansdale. Ellsberg concluded that the war was not going well and would continue to deteriorate with the possibility of a victory for the northern, Communist forces quite possible.
In 1967, McNamara included Ellsberg in a group he had created to do a comprehensive study of the entire history of the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War, a role that would lead him to become one of the more dangerous men in that era, according to US government officials.
After completing the study (in which Ellsberg didn't have a huge role) he returned back to the RAND Corporation and became immersed in antiwar work.
By 1971, with the war still going on despite significant public opposition, Ellsberg made copies of the 7000-page report, known as "The Pentagon Papers," and leaked it to the media. The Nixon administration immediately acted and charged Ellsberg with espionage, conspiracy and other crimes. The White House also tried to prevent publication of the Pentagon Papers but the Supreme Court upheld the right of the press to publish them.
By the time Ellsberg went to trial, Nixon's attempts to discredit and ruin Ellsberg--including illegal wiretapping of Ellsberg, a government break-in of his psychiatrist's office to steal his files, and an offer to the trial Judge to become director of the FBI if he found Ellsberg guilty--were so egregious that the judge threw the charges against him out.
From then on, Daniel Ellsberg was a constant presence when Americans protested against wars, nuclear power and nuclear weapons, wars and
interventions, and many other issues. His legacy as a defender of press freedom and a voice for peace and justice won't be forgotten, and we've seen his influence on the likes of Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning, Daniel Hale, Reality Winner, and others who've tried to warn us about the malignant actions of the state.
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Outro- "The Ballad of Daniel Ellsberg" by Rulie Garcia
Links//
+ Daniel Ellsberg, Who Leaked the Pentagon Papers, Is Dead at 92 (https://nyti.ms/3Nx0EEe)
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Jun 15, 2023 • 54min
Ukraine Update: Time to end "an unwinnable war" (G&R 231)
We got together to discuss the war in Ukraine. Currently the US is continuing to send money and military equipment to Ukraine, but conditions on the battlefield are at a stalemate, with neither side able to win the war not on the verge of surrendering either. We discussed the levels of US aid to Ukraine, in terms of money and arms. We also discussed the profits made by American military suppliers and other corporations.
Importantly we also have responded to the "NATO Left" which is shouting for more aid to Ukraine and engaging in McCarthyist attacks on people calling for negotiations to end the war, as well as pointing out the follow of self-described leftists who are pro-Russia and pro-Putin.
Finally, we discussed the scope of ruling class concern over the war--manifested in calls for talks by the likes of JCS Chair Mark Milley, the Rand Corporation, and Foreign Affairs, to name a few. And we ended by discussing the risks involved in a continued war, particularly with escalating tensions with China, and the way that spending in Ukraine has taken attention away from the myriad crises we face in the U.S.
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Outro- "No More War" by Markus K
Links//
+ CFR: How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts. (https://bit.ly/43yjccJ)
+Defense Contractor Funded Think Tanks Dominate Ukraine Debate (https://bit.ly/45TdcNo)
+ Reuters: Ukraine war, already with up to 354,000 casualties, likely to last past 2023 (https://bit.ly/3MYhESg)
+ Hartung:Congress should freeze historically high Pentagon spending (https://bit.ly/45YNuXG)
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Jun 12, 2023 • 57min
Why the Left Must Oppose Nuclear Power w/ Journalist Joshua Frank (G&R 230)
In our latest episode, we talk with journalist Joshua Frank (@joshua_frank) about his book, "Atomic Days: The Untold Story of the Most Toxic Place in America," which details the story of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in Washington State and a $677 billion environmental cleanup site. We also talk about the resurgence of nuclear power, its toxic legacy and the deadly impacts of its entire life cycle. We also discuss the left's recent embrace of it as a "renewable energy" source, how the pro-nuke leftists are doing the bidding of the nuclear industry and why the left must oppose nuclear power.
Bio//
Joshua Frank is an award-winning California-based journalist and co-editor of the political magazine CounterPunch. He is the editor and co-author of several books. Most recently, he is the author of the book "Atomic Days: The Untold Story of the Most Toxic Place in America" (Haymarket Books 2022).
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Outro- "We Almost Lost Detroit" by Gil Scott Heron
Links//
+Atomic Days on Haymarket (https://bit.ly/3MZ6bSC)
+The Case Against Nuclear Power (https://bit.ly/3X1XxHG)
+Counterpunch: http://CounterPunch.org
+The Pentagon Is Helping Bring the Next Generation of Nuclear Technology
to Life (https://bit.ly/43R0Ljb)
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