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The podcast that tells true stories about the people making and breaking our digital world. We take listeners into the world of cyber and intelligence without all the techie jargon. Every Tuesday and Friday, former NPR investigations correspondent Dina Temple-Raston and the team draw back the curtain on ransomware attacks, mysterious hackers, and the people who are trying to stop them.
Latest episodes

Jan 17, 2025 • 11min
Mic Drop: Elon Musk, come and get your space junk.
Jordan Hobbs, an Australian cattle farmer and newfound local celebrity, shares his unexpected encounter with SpaceX debris on his property. He recounts the bizarre moment he discovered a charred metallic object among his cattle. Jordan discusses the challenges of space junk, the broader implications for space exploration, and even jokes about potential compensation from Elon Musk. His journey reflects the fascinating intersections of rural life and modern technology, offering a humorous yet thought-provoking look at how space debris impacts our world.

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Jan 14, 2025 • 24min
Space Jam: What if adversaries hacked a dead satellite?
Ed Lu, a former NASA astronaut, has shifted his focus from asteroid impacts to the alarming issue of space debris weaponization. He discusses the risks posed to astronauts on the International Space Station and highlights NASA's innovative DART mission for asteroid deflection. Lu also warns about the potential consequences of hacking defunct satellites and emphasizes the urgent need for regulatory measures to protect our space assets. The conversation sheds light on the dual threats from adversarial forces and the increasing dangers posed by space debris.

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Jan 10, 2025 • 12min
Mic Drop: Russia’s unexpected wartime real estate boom
Amidst conflict, Russia experiences a surprising real estate boom, driven by military spending and high salaries attracting new recruits. Tech professionals reveal the contrasting resilience and decline within the economy. As families of fallen soldiers face 'deathonomics,' ethical questions arise about profiting from war. The influx of recruits, aided by mortgage subsidies, reshapes both urban and rural housing markets while raising concerns about the long-term impact on society and businesses.

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Jan 7, 2025 • 26min
Tech workers return to Russia, not quite with love
Explore the tumultuous experiences of Russian tech workers returning home after initially fleeing the war in Ukraine. Discover the emotional and practical challenges they face as they navigate cultural adjustments and economic hardships stemming from international sanctions. Hear about a family's dramatic journey back, fueled by a near-drowning incident, and the resilience of the Russian economy despite restrictions. Delve into the government's efforts to bring IT specialists back amidst geopolitical tensions and rising cybersecurity concerns.

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Jan 3, 2025 • 14min
Mic Drop: The demise of ransomware and the rise of crypto
In this intriguing discussion, Alexander Leslie, a threat intelligence analyst at Recorded Future, dives into the dramatic changes in cybercrime. He reveals how 2024 was a pivotal year for takedowns, especially against the notorious Lockbit group. Leslie explains the shifting strategies of cybercriminals in response to intensified law enforcement pressure. The conversation also highlights the delicate balance between cryptocurrency regulations and cybercrime, emphasizing how political views are evolving and what this means for the future of ransomware.

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Dec 31, 2024 • 42min
196. 2024: A year of living more dangerously in cyberspace.
Jenn White, host of 1A and a skilled journalist from NPR, speaks with Bill Browder, a financier and human rights advocate known for his stand against Russian corruption. They dive into the rising cyber threats from China and Russia, highlighting strategic attacks targeting U.S. interests. Browder emphasizes the urgent need for global support for Ukraine amid ongoing Russian aggression and discusses complex geopolitical dynamics, including military aid and the future of NATO. This conversation reveals the pressing challenges both governments and nations face in cyberspace.

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Dec 27, 2024 • 12min
195. Mic Drop: A return to the NSA's Cryptologic Museum - a spycatcher's dream
Vince Houghton, the Director and curator of the National Cryptologic Museum, takes listeners on a thrilling journey through the world of espionage. He explores the museum's rare code-breaking machines that altered history. Fascinating stories emerge about WWII crates and the secrets they hold. The discussion highlights vital innovations like the 'Russian Fish' communication interceptor and the revolutionary Colossus computer. Houghton also shares insights on the pioneering Cray-2 supercomputer, showcasing the rapid evolution of technology in cryptography.

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Dec 24, 2024 • 22min
194. A return to the musicians who came in from the cold
Take a journey back to 1985, where a Boston klezmer ensemble braves political tensions in the Soviet Union. Discover the Phantom Orchestra, a group of musicians fighting for freedom against oppression. Learn how music became a channel for covert messaging during the Cold War, blending artistry with espionage. Experience the intrigue of secret concerts and the human spirit's resilience amidst danger. This captivating narrative highlights the power of music as a unifying force in the face of authoritarianism.

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Dec 20, 2024 • 14min
193. Mic Drop: For researcher Allison Nixon, young cybercriminals are ‘objectively interesting’
Alison Nixon, a cybersecurity expert at Unit 221B, specializes in the intriguing world of young cybercriminals. She discusses the troubling connection between youth radicalization and cybercrime, emphasizing a notable shift in focus from traditional terrorism. Nixon delves into the creative tactics of young hackers, like SIM swapping, while exploring their psychological motivations. The conversation also highlights the dark side of youth in cybercrime, addressing the lack of accountability and the challenges of rehabilitation, akin to traditional gangs.

25 snips
Dec 17, 2024 • 23min
192. Return to the leak that unmasked China’s hackers-for-hire
The podcast dives into recent U.S. sanctions against a Chinese cybersecurity firm linked to global firewall breaches. It unveils a significant leak from Aisun, showcasing China's hackers-for-hire network's ties to the government. Listeners learn about the rise of contract hackers and the escalating threats they pose. The evolution of China's cyber hacking, including the transformation of the Green Army into cybersecurity entrepreneurs, is explored. Finally, the discussion reveals China's strategic blend of control and deniability in cyber warfare.