
Click Here
The podcast that tells true stories about the people making and breaking our digital world. We take listeners into the world of cyber and intelligence without all the techie jargon. Every Tuesday and Friday, former NPR investigations correspondent Dina Temple-Raston and the team draw back the curtain on ransomware attacks, mysterious hackers, and the people who are trying to stop them.
Latest episodes

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Mar 25, 2025 • 26min
The Zelensky playbook: Ukrainian lessons for Taiwan
Dive into the complexities of war preparation as experts simulate Taiwan's defense strategies inspired by Ukraine's conflict. Explore the challenges of cyber warfare and communication vulnerabilities that Taiwan faces, highlighting the need for robust digital infrastructure. Discover innovative approaches, including a unique war game at DEF CON aimed at enhancing Taiwan's resilience. As geopolitical tensions rise, learn how strategic recommendations and public-private partnerships can empower Taiwan in navigating its future security landscape.

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Mar 21, 2025 • 13min
Mic Drop: Kelly Shaw’s job got hacked – by DOGE
Kelly Shaw, a former CISA cybersecurity expert with 15 years in national security, shares her shocking experience of being laid off during the agency's drastic downsizing. She discusses the implications of these layoffs for national security and the future of cybersecurity. Kelly also reflects on the emotional toll of job loss, the impact of AI on the industry, and the growing fears about vulnerabilities in cyber defense against threats, particularly from foreign adversaries. Her insights reveal both personal and national consequences of these crucial changes.

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Mar 18, 2025 • 21min
Is Trump making the US more cyber vulnerable?
The podcast dives into the controversial halt of U.S. offensive cyber operations against Russia, raising questions about national security. Experts highlight the risks of IT changes tied to efficiency over security. Delays and staffing woes at CISA are underscored as exacerbating vulnerabilities in U.S. cybersecurity. Finally, a significant donation aims to bolster cybersecurity education at a new college, stressing the importance of training the next generation in this critical field.

Mar 14, 2025 • 10min
Mic Drop: Frank McCourt wants TikTok to help him reinvent the internet
Billionaire Frank McCourt doesn’t want to buy TikTok for its algorithm and addictive videos. He wants its 170 million American users to help him fundamentally change the Internet.
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Mar 11, 2025 • 36min
The TikTok ban, China, and national security
Click Here host Dina Temple-Raston speaks with 1A's Jenn White about the latest on the TikTok ban, what’s next in the possible sale of its American arm, and whether the app is really a threat to national security.
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Mar 7, 2025 • 13min
Mic Drop: Aidan Raney's secret mission.
Aidan Raney does threat analysis for Farnsworth Intelligence, a company he founded. When one of his clients got caught up in a North Korean IT worker scheme, Aidan set out on a little mission: to infiltrate one of these operations and understand how it worked.
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Mar 4, 2025 • 24min
Meet the “Kyles” — North Korea’s secret IT warriors
Discover the hidden world of North Korea’s secret IT workers who apply for global remote jobs. Unravel the tale of a suspicious new hire named Kyle and the cybersecurity threats that follow. Learn how North Korea uses these operations to evade sanctions and fund its ambitions. Dive into the challenges of detecting deceptive candidates in cybersecurity hiring and the alarming rise in cybercrime fueled by exploited labor. Explore the digital vulnerabilities that remote work has created in today's tech landscape.

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Feb 28, 2025 • 14min
Mic Drop: Anne Neuberger on AI: ‘We have to challenge ourselves to be first’
Anne Neuberger, former Deputy National Security Advisor for Cyber and Emerging Technologies, offers a deep dive into the future of AI and its global implications. She discusses China's advanced system, DeepSeek, and how export controls are shaping innovation. The conversation highlights the critical intersection of AI and military strategy, stressing collaboration between tech and government. Neuberger also addresses the urgent need for improved cybersecurity measures in an era plagued by ransomware and the role of cryptocurrency in funding crime.

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Feb 25, 2025 • 25min
Ron Deibert: ‘We’re living in a Philip K. Dick novel.’
Ron Deibert, Director of the Citizen Lab and author of 'Chasing Shadows,' discusses the pressing issues surrounding digital surveillance and accountability. He reflects on his journey from studying Soviet politics to addressing contemporary cyber challenges, emphasizing the dual nature of technology as both a tool for democratization and a means for government oversight. Deibert reveals the global implications of his team's discoveries, including the GhostNet breach and the dangers posed by spyware like Pegasus, making a compelling case for the need to guard digital rights.

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Feb 21, 2025 • 12min
Mic Drop: Mark Zaid’s ‘red badge of courage’
Mark Zaid, a national security attorney renowned for representing government whistleblowers, shares his recent experiences after the Trump administration revoked his security clearances. He discusses the retaliation faced by officials, drawing parallels with themes from 'The Red Badge of Courage' on bravery and moral dilemmas. Zaid also reflects on the implications of the Trump-Zelensky call, emphasizing the personal costs for whistleblowers. His insights on due process highlight the complexities surrounding security clearances and the ongoing struggle for accountability.