

Maximum Lawyer
Tyson Mutrux
Maximum Lawyer is the podcast for law firm owners who want to scale with intention and build a business that works for their life.
Hosted by Tyson Mutrux, each weekly episode features candid conversations with law firm owners, business experts, and industry leaders sharing real strategies and lessons learned in the trenches.
If you're ready to grow your firm with less stress and more support, this is your next must listen. Subscribe today.
Hosted by Tyson Mutrux, each weekly episode features candid conversations with law firm owners, business experts, and industry leaders sharing real strategies and lessons learned in the trenches.
If you're ready to grow your firm with less stress and more support, this is your next must listen. Subscribe today.
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Jul 19, 2025 • 30min
Navigating AI Malfunctions, Meeting Prep Strategies, and the Rise of Self-Active AI Teammates
Discover the fascinating world of AI in the legal sector! The discussion dives into Google Gemini, a tool that streamlines meeting prep and enhances communication. Learn about Proactor V 1.0, a self-active AI that can think independently, boosting productivity. Also, explore the risks of online scams and cryptocurrency vulnerabilities with a blend of humor and wisdom. Plus, get actionable social media strategies to increase engagement for law firms. It's a perfect blend of technology, productivity tips, and cautionary tales!

Jul 15, 2025 • 36min
Why Your Law Firm's Chatbot Might Be Costing You Clients: The Case for Human Responses
Watch the YouTube version of this episode HEREAre you a law firm owner looking for advice on how to make your firm more lucrative? In this episode of the Maximum Lawyer Podcast, Tyson interviews Ted DeBettencourt, a JD/MBA and a business owner. Ted shares his journey from Martha’s Vineyard to legal tech entrepreneurship, discussing the island’s unique culture and his transition from law to business. To run a successful law firm, it is important that certain processes are in place and run efficiently to turn a profit. An important thing to implement is to ensure there are more staff over auto responders and AI for Local Service Ads (LSA). LSA’s will rank firms based on response times and this can affect how people perceive your firm at the first click. If your response time is slow, most people will not call you for help. Using real people to answer leads and call prospective clients will ensure you get off on the right foot with people who are looking for legal support.Ted and Tyson chat about the three most important marketing metrics for a successful law firm. The first metric is wanted leads. It is important to know how many leads are actually wanted, in which a firm will be interested in taking on. The second metric is signed rates. Out of the wanted leads, how many of them were signed on as actual cases for the firm. This will determine how successful a firm is when it comes to the number of cases that are taken on and it can show value. The third metric is average case value. This can be determined by how much a firm makes in a year based on the type of cases. Ultimately, the average case value will let someone know how successful a firm really is.Listen in to learn more!05:25 Google Local Services Ads (LSA) and Lead Response06:49 Manual vs. Automated Lead Response07:46 Importance of Fast Lead Response09:20 AI vs. Human Chat: Present and Future10:37 Human Connection in the Age of AI11:26 Regulations and Human-Only Policies23:14 What Sets Successful Law Firms Apart25:54 Key Marketing Metrics for Law FirmsTune in to today’s episode and checkout the full show notes here. Connect with Ted at JuvoLeads:Website Linkedin

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Jul 12, 2025 • 27min
Missed Leads, Bad Hires, and AI Disruption
Dive into the conversation about missed leads and the art of empathetic communication during distressing client calls. Discover essential interview questions that reveal a company's true values and navigate the ethical dilemmas of employee poaching in tech. The discussion also touches on a dramatic rebranding failure of a major car manufacturer, emphasizing the critical importance of maintaining brand reputation. Plus, learn about innovative tech tools designed to enhance client interactions and boost engagement.

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Jul 8, 2025 • 46min
Want Clients from YouTube? Start With These 3 P’s
Ryan Webber, a marketing expert and creator of a successful YouTube channel for his lawyer wife, shares invaluable insights on leveraging YouTube for legal marketing. He emphasizes the importance of niche content and offers a formula known as the Three P's: Pain, Proof, and Promise, to grab viewers’ attention. Ryan dives into strategies for video introductions, the role of personal branding, and innovative advertising methods tailored for law firms. Listeners can learn practical tips to enhance engagement and grow their channels in a competitive market.

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Jul 5, 2025 • 40min
This Is What High Performers Actually Do Differently
Discover essential strategies for entrepreneurs focusing on productivity, copywriting, and decision-making. Learn effective copywriting techniques that make your promises stand out. Find out how to make decisions with just 51% certainty and avoid analysis paralysis. Explore key habits of high performers that boost productivity, along with insights on modern hiring practices and the evolving role of social media. Transform your legal practice by embracing community learning and actionable strategies for personal fulfillment.

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Jul 4, 2025 • 48min
Couples Series: Vision, Support, and Shared Ownership with Nicole and Caleb Payne
Nicole Payne is a powerhouse trial attorney driving growth at her firm, while her husband, Caleb, offers a calm, thoughtful perspective on balancing life and business. Together, they discuss the delicate balance between their differing approaches—Nicole’s business focus and Caleb’s issue-driven mindset. They share insights on building strong partnerships in work and marriage, navigating stress, and the significance of communication. Their journey highlights how a shared vision and respect can lead to success in both personal and professional realms.

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Jul 2, 2025 • 49min
Couples Series: Strategy, Systems, and Staying Aligned with Maggie and Alex Shahrestani
Alex and Maggie Shahrestani, partners at Promise Legal, share their insights on blending marriage with business. Alex emphasizes leveraging their unique strengths to foster balance, while Maggie discusses the importance of systems to improve client experiences. They delve into defining success, navigating work-style conflicts, and setting clear roles within their firm. Their candid reflections highlight strategies for effective communication and maintaining alignment, offering a roadmap for couples in business to thrive together.

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Jun 30, 2025 • 51min
Couples Series: Clear Roles, Shared Goals with Jeremy and Sara Danilson
Jeremy Danilson, CEO of his law firm, and Sara Danilson, Operations Manager, share their insights on blending personal and professional lives. They define success in terms of family values and achieving financial freedom. The couple discusses navigating partnership dynamics, highlighting the importance of clear roles and decision-making strategies. They candidly share their views on handling disagreements in business, maintaining work-life balance, and the evolution of their relationship, all while embracing the unique challenges of working together as a married couple.

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Jun 28, 2025 • 14min
The Secret Sauce to Faster Response Times in Law Firms: The Routing Framework
Discover how the Routing Framework can revolutionize law firm operations by automating task delegation. Learn to streamline workflows and reduce response times through AI-driven systems, comparing legal practices with other industries. Explore various automation tools like N8N and Zapier for managing client inquiries. Gain insights on implementing these strategies, improving efficiency, and the vital role of community support in enhancing law firm practices.

Jun 24, 2025 • 47min
How to Treat Your Law Firm Like an Asset (Not a Job)
Watch the YouTube version of this episode HEREAre you a law firm owner looking for strategies to build a better business? In this episode of Maximum Lawyer, Tyson interviews Jonathan Hawkins, an attorney specializing in advising law firms on business management and legal strategy. Jonathan shares practical insights on building strong client retainer agreements, protecting against associate turnover, and planning for partnership transitions. Jonathan shares some strategies law firms need to use to protect themselves when associates leave and take clients with them. One thing to embed in your processes is establishing partnership agreements with lawyers you hire. This is a way to outline stipulations as it relates to a lawyer leaving and taking a client. Though a client has the ultimate choice, it can be included in an agreement that a lawyer should not encourage their client to leave with them. As a firm owner, this protects your downside and provides you with some sort of protection when it comes to losing clients.Tyson and Jonathan chat about value drivers for law firms and how owners can enhance their practice when it comes time to sell. A big value driver for a potential buyer are the employees. If a new owner is looking to take over, having solid employees and a good leadership team will attract someone to jump in. It will make the transition much smoother and leave the buyer feeling confident in their decision. Another value driver are marketing systems. If your firm has great systems to market itself, someone will be more inclined to buy because they see the dedication that exists within the firm and how it presents itself.Listen in to learn more!2:17 Advice on foundational systems for new law firms4:09 Strategies to protect law firms when associates leave9:57 Common legal protections firms neglect28:27 Additional value drivers for law firms36:34 The importance of succession and incapacity planning Tune in to today’s episode and checkout the full show notes here. Connect with Jonathan:Website Linkedin


