

Inside The Vatican
America Media
Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning.
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Oct 16, 2026 • 47min
Pope Leo’s cancer diagnosis: What we know
Gerard O’Connell, veteran Vatican correspondent for America Media, examines what is known about Pope Leo XIV’s unexpected lung cancer diagnosis, surgery and uncertain recovery. He also explores a Vatican meeting on Amoris Laetitia, changing family realities, migration and the election of Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle as dean of the College of Cardinals.

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Oct 5, 2026 • 59min
‘Amoris Laetitia’ at 10: The history, tensions and legacy
Austen Ivereigh, a Catholic journalist and Pope Francis biographer, and Sebastian Gomes, an expert on Vatican affairs and synodality, revisit the heated family synods behind Amoris Laetitia. They discuss divorced and remarried Catholics, conscience, pastoral discernment, polarization, quiet implementation, and Pope Leo’s plans to revisit the document while addressing fragile family life and marriage preparation.

Oct 1, 2026 • 45min
French Catholicism Reborn? What happened on Pope Leo’s visit to France (and why it matters for all of us)
This week on Jesuitical, Colleen Dulle joins hosts Zac Davis and Sebasian Gomes to discuss Pope Leo’s recent visit to France, including his messages on assisted dying, European identity and the role of the Catholic Church in a secular country. Colleen also reflects on her experience of traveling with the pope for the first time.
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Chapters:
00:00 First time on the papal plane!
4:02 Why Pope Leo went to France
6:45 Catholic revival?
9:43 Secularity in France
14:02 Pro-life issues in France
17:57 Is Europe a "Christian" culture?
24:55 Pope meets abuse victims
34:08 Liturgy and division
Links:
Pope Leo’s trip to France won’t be a victory lap—and that’s a good thing.
Vatican Notebook: Pope Leo navigates tensions between secularism and Catholic history on France visit
‘More than a monument’: Pope Leo’s speech at the newly renovated Notre-Dame
Pope Leo draws 800,000 to Mass in the heart of Paris
Vatican Notebook: Pope Leo addresses French conversion boom, warns against complacency
Pope speaks out against French assisted-dying and abortion laws in Lourdes visit
Mother: Pope Leo’s blessing of special-needs daughter recognizes ‘segment of humanity often set aside’
Pope Leo meets with survivors of abuse in Lourdes
Pope Leo: Europe must return to path of dialogue, not military buildup
Pope Leo is not ‘in panic mode’ about an A.I. catastrophe, but ‘we can’t just sit back’ and do nothing
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Sep 25, 2026 • 38min
What to expect from Pope Leo’s trip to France
In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen preview Pope Leo XIV’s visit to France, set for Sept. 25-28. The two unpack Pope Leo’s itinerary for the trip, give context for the political situation in the country and discuss what messages the pope may send to both secular and ecclesial authorities in a country and church that are being reshaped by the arrival of newcomers.
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Chapters:
00:00 News: Pope Leo to visit Latin America2:12 Background on Pope Leo's trip to France11:07 The EU, war, and multilateralism15:19 The pope's diplomatic balancing act18:20 A religious spring in France?24:00 Scandals, wounds and reconciliation29:20 Who the pope is meeting
Links:
Pope Leo XIV will meet with the French abuse survivors as critics demand action
As Pope Leo prepares to visit France, can its ‘Catholic moment’ become a lasting revival?
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Sep 18, 2026 • 38min
‘Baby Bishops School’: How the Vatican trains new bishops
In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen discuss the “birthday gifts” Pope Leo XIV gave to the Vatican on his 71st birthday: an expansion of the Vatican Library and archives and the repeal of Covid-era salary cuts. The hosts explain Vatican salaries and what has changed financially for the Holy See since the pandemic.
In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry give a primer on “Baby Bishops’ School,” the annual training for newly-ordained bishops that recently concluded in Rome.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:42 Pope Leo repeals Covid-era salary cuts
4:52 How Vatican employees are compensated
7:52 The Vatican’s financial recovery since 2024
10:39 Vatican finances under Pope Leo
15:06 Vatican Library and archive expansion
18:33 Baby Bishops’ School explained
21:03 Bishops get international perspective
24:49 Pope Leo’s address to new bishops
29:43 The Pope Leo ‘style’ of being bishop
33:40 What could change for bishops under Leo
35:30 Outro and credits
Links:Pope Leo celebrates his 71st birthday—by giving gifts to the Vatican
Is Pope Leo ‘Americanizing’ Vatican fundraising?
What Pope Leo has said about an ‘A.I. pause’
Pope Leo calls for ‘culture of negotiation’ at meeting of North and South American leaders
Synodality, multiculturalism and working with Pope Leo: Archbishop Costelloe on the Australian Catholic Church
Pope Leo warns technology cannot replace the value of human relationships
Cardinal Czerny awarded inaugural Pope Leo XIV Sustainability Medal
Pope Leo commemorates 9/11, praying for all who ‘bear wounds of that tragic day’
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Sep 11, 2026 • 48min
What’s on Pope Leo’s desk this fall
In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen take the opportunity of Pope Leo’s 71st birthday on Monday, Sept. 14, to look back at what he has accomplished thus far in his papacy and what major items remain on his desk for the fall, including trips to France and Latin America, a series of high-profile appointments and the ongoing trials of Marko Rupnik and Angelo Becciu.
The hosts also announce the launch of the newest America newsletter, Vatican Notebook! Subscribe here.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
3:21 Pope Leo celebrates his 71st birthday
5:50 A review of Pope Leo's first year
10:01 Pope Leo's effect on geopolitics
13:53 Pope Leo assembles a diverse new team
21:50 Leo's focus on peace, poverty and A.I.
28:10 Pope Leo is in no rush
29:10 The pope's preferences for bishops
35:11 Plans for filling bishop vacancies
37:03 Marko Rupnik trial updates
40:53 A new attitude on Vatican finances
44:30 Outro
Links:
How do popes celebrate their birthdays? Pizza, parties and puppies (from 2025)
Is Pope Leo ‘Americanizing’ Vatican fundraising?
Pope Leo: Catholics cannot be ‘unengaged spectators’ amid ‘injustice, discrimination and violence’
Pope Leo’s visit to France likely to attract a million people
Peruvian city to unveil world’s tallest statue of Pope Leo for trip to South America
A long-awaited reckoning: A timeline of the Father Marko Rupnik case
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Jul 3, 2026 • 2min
Pope Leo's message for the United States' 250th anniversary
Pope Leo today received the National Constitution Center’s liberty medal and gave an acceptance speech via livestream from the Vatican. Colleen Dulle recaps his message.
Links from the show:
Read: Pope Leo’s message to the United States on its 250th anniversary
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Jul 3, 2026 • 2min
Vatican excommunicates SSPX bishops, priests and others
Today, July 2, in response to the SSPX’s illicit ordinations of bishops, the Vatican announced that not only were the bishops involved in the ordination automatically excommunicated and in schism, but that any clergy of SSPX or lay members who “adhere” to the schism are also to be considered excommunicated.
Links from the show:
The Vatican and SSPX controversy, explained
Vatican declares excommunicated SSPX bishops, warns priests and lay faithful of schism
Analysis: SSPX excommunications show what Pope Leo means by church ‘unity’
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Jun 26, 2026 • 43min
‘I doubt he will be diplomatic’: What Leo may say to the U.S. July 3
On this season finale of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry discuss the hectic weeks before Pope Leo’s summer vacation. First they recap the pope’s trip to Pavia to visit the remains of St. Augustine and the home of St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, his speech to the World Food Program and the Vatican’s denial of the German bishops’ request to allow lay people to preach homilies. They also look ahead to this week’s consistory of cardinals, the illicit ordinations planned by SSPX, the pope’s address to Americans on July 3 and his trip to Lampedusa July 4, along with how Leo plans to spend his summer vacation.
In this episode, Gerry also breaks the news of how many days Pope Leo will spend in Argentina, Peru and Uruguay this fall.
0:00 Intro
1:17 Pope Leo’s visit to Pavia and Cabrini’s hometown
4:52 Breaking News - Pope Leo’s agenda for Latin America
5:44 Pope Leo’s visit to the World Food Program
10:50 Vatican says no to lay homilies during Mass
11:35 Meeting of continental synod leaders at Vatican
16:38 Consistory of cardinals on war, AI and the synod
23:49 Cardinals could discuss SSPX at consistory
28:44 Pope Leo’s address to Americans July 3
34:06 Pope Leo’s July 4 visit to Lampedusa
34:53 What we know about Pope Leo’s summer plans
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Links:
Pope Leo XIV exalts first American saint Cabrini as a model for Christians for her care of migrants
Pope Leo: War is ‘fed more easily’ than the hungry
Vatican to German bishops: No lay people preaching homilies at Mass
SSPX stands firm against Vatican II in open letter to Pope Leo
Extraordinary consistory signals Pope Leo’s push to work with cardinals on global challenges
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Jun 19, 2026 • 46min
‘Like I’ve rarely seen him’: Pope Leo’s visit to Spain
Gerard O'Connell, America magazine’s Rome correspondent who covered the Spain trip on the ground. He recounts massive crowds in Madrid and a parliament address on human dignity. He describes meetings with young people and survivors, the Montserrat pilgrimage and Sagrada Familia blessing, and a dramatic Canary Islands stop calling out exploitation of migrants.


