

The Application Security Podcast
Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut
Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut dig into the tips, tricks, projects, and tactics that make various application security professionals successful. They cover all facets of application security, from threat modeling and OWASP to DevOps+security and security champions. They approach these stories in an educational light, explaining the details in a way those new to the discipline can understand. Chris Romeo is the CEO of Devici and a General Partner at Kerr Ventures, and Robert Hurlbut is a Principal Application Security Architect focused on Threat Modeling at Aquia.
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Dec 6, 2016 • 37min
Tracy Maleeff -- Natural Paranoia as a Career Path? A Transition to Security
In this episode, Robert and I are joined by Tracy Maleeff. Tracy is an InfoSec enthusiast with an MLIS degree. She has mad research and organizational skills. She co-hosts the PVCSec podcast. You can find Tracy on Twitter @InfoSecSherpa.Tracy is in the midst of a career transition. She began her career in Library Sciences and is moving into Information Security. We discussed the challenges of transition, how to network and connect, a process for transition, and three actionable things for those that want to make a transition. Enjoy!FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nov 29, 2016 • 27min
Chris Romeo -- Security Community at Any Scale
In this episode, Robert interviews Chris about the security community. Chris talks about his experiences doing security community at a large organization for 5+ years. Robert keeps pushing Chris to make this applicable to small companies as well. You’ll hear best practices for building a security community in your org, including monthly training sessions, lunch and learns, and even an internal security conference. Chris also offers the profound statement that “everyone eats lunch.”FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nov 16, 2016 • 38min
Deidre Diamond -- The Soft Skills of AppSec
We are joined by Deidre Diamond, Founder, and CEO @cyber_sn & the Founder of @brain_babe. We discuss employment in the world of application security. We also dive deep into soft skills, exploring why they are foundational in the workforce. Deidre explains the benefits of win-win conversation, how words and everyday language connect, and how to have fun, compassion, love, integrity, and productivity all in one at work.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nov 8, 2016 • 39min
Tony UcedaVelez -- PASTA: Not Just for Breakfast Anymore
This is our third interview from ISC2 Security Congress. We are joined by Tony UcedaVelez, or TonyUV, founder and CEO of VerSprite – a global security consulting firm based in Atlanta, GA. Tony leads the OWASP Atlanta Chapter and BSides Atlanta.This is a deep dive into Tony’s experience with threat modeling. We explore the PASTA methodology he created.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nov 2, 2016 • 50min
Glenn Leifheit -- An Inner Glimpse of the Microsoft SDL
This is our second interview at ISC2 Security Congress. We are joined by Glenn Leifheit (@gleifhe), an InfoSec and Development Evangelist at Microsoft. Microsoft is the grandparent to almost every secure development lifecycle across the industry.This is an in-depth discussion about how actually to do SDL. Glenn shares some things during this conversation that I’ve never heard about the internals of Microsoft’s SDL process in public. You will take something away from this conversation to apply to your program.Enjoy!FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oct 25, 2016 • 37min
Mike Landeck -- Security Must Meet the Needs of the Business
Mike Landeck joins Robert and me. Mike is a Cyber security evangelist, AppSec junky & Docker Security geek, and can be found on Twitter @MikeLandeck.We interviewed Mike in person at the ISC2 Security Congress event in Orlando, Florida. We discussed his latest talk on breach fatigue, the need to reach outside the echo chamber of security, Twitter as a news source for security, secure coding, and many other things.Please enjoy, and search for something you can apply directly into your day-to-day life!FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oct 18, 2016 • 32min
Daniel Ramsbrock -- Web Application Pen Testing – Part 2
On this two-part episode of the Application Security PodCast, Robert and I speak with Daniel Ramsbrock about Web App Penetration testing. In part two, we focus on the process of pen testing and web app pen testing.I (Chris) connected with Daniel through the RVASec security conference in Richmond, Virginia. Daniel has been in security for over ten years, focusing most of that time on application security. He spent two years as a full-time consultant at Cigital and is now doing independent AppSec consulting through his company, Enigma Technologies. We hope you enjoy it!FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oct 18, 2016 • 31min
Daniel Ramsbrock -- Web Application Pen Testing – Part 1
On this two-part episode of the Application Security PodCast, Robert and I speak with Daniel Ramsbrock about Web App Penetration testing. In part one, we focus on the difference between pen testing and web app pen testing, where pen testing fits your development methodology (waterfall, agile, and DevOps), and why someone should care about it.I (Chris) connected with Daniel through the RVASec security conference in Richmond, Virginia. Daniel has been in security for over ten years, focusing most of that time on application security. He spent two years as a full-time consultant at Cigital and is now doing independent AppSec consulting through his company, Enigma Technologies. We hope you enjoy it!FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oct 11, 2016 • 48min
Matt Clapham -- Development Security Maturity
Robert and I are joined today by Matt Clapham. Matt “makes products more secure” I mean, hey, his Twitter handle is @ProdSec.The topic of this interview is what Matt calls development security maturity. This concept is based on Matt’s research and his talk at RSA. Matt created a simple process to measure the maturity of development security by looking at five key behaviors. We cover the what and why of development security, the five key behaviors, and scoring and reporting. In conclusion, we discuss how to make the results of an assessment actionable.Matt’s RSA slides are a great resource to review in conjunction with the interview: str-w05-estimating-development-security-maturity-in-about-an-hour-final.pdfBio: Matt Clapham makes products more secure. His career is a rare blend of both product development and enterprise operations. He is currently a Principal of Product Development Security at GE Healthcare. Matt previously worked as a Software Tester, IT Policy Author, and Security Advisor to all things games at Microsoft. He is familiar with the security foibles of the Industrial Device Internet of Things and how to overcome them. Matt is a frequent speaker and author of magazine articles on IT, security, games, or some combination thereof. He holds degrees in engineering and music from the University of Michigan.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oct 4, 2016 • 22min
Elena Elkina -- Privacy and Data Protection
Welcome to the first of many interviews on the #AppSec Podcast. In this episode, Robert and I interview Elena Elkina (@el0chka) on privacy. We cover privacy, data protection, and customer data protection. This is a quick chat for around 20 minutes. In the future, we’ll dive deeper into the crossroads of security and privacy.Elena is a Senior Global Privacy & Data Protection Management Executive. She has worked with financial and healthcare institutions, software and internet companies, major law firms, and the government sector on both international and domestic levels. She co-founded Women in Security and Privacy, a non-profit organization focusing on advancing women in security and privacy. She is also a board member for Leading Women in Technology, a non-profit organization dedicated to unlocking the potential of female professionals who advise technology businesses.We hope you enjoy this conversation with Elena about privacy and data protection!FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~