
The Application Security Podcast
Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut dig into the tips, tricks, projects, and tactics that make various application security professionals successful. They cover all facets of application security, from threat modeling and OWASP to DevOps+security and security champions. They approach these stories in an educational light, explaining the details in a way those new to the discipline can understand. Chris Romeo is the CEO of Devici and a General Partner at Kerr Ventures, and Robert Hurlbut is a Principal Application Security Architect focused on Threat Modeling at Aquia.
Latest episodes

May 20, 2019 • 5min
Tanya Janca — Mentoring Monday — 5 Minute AppSec
Tanya Janca is excited about mentoring. She's started a hashtag on Twitter for mentors to find mentee's, and for mentee's to search for mentors. Mentoring is such an essential part of growing our community, so if you are not mentoring anyone today, I can only ask, why not? Here is Tanya's take on mentoring and her advice on how to get involved with #MentoringMonday.5 Minute AppSec is an AppSec Podcast experiment with micro-content. Hit us up on Twitter and tell us what you think, @AppSecPodcast.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

May 13, 2019 • 28min
Matt Clapham — A perspective on appsec from the world of medical software
Matt Clapham is a product security person, as a developer, security engineer, advisor, and manager. He began his career as a software tester, which led him down the path of figuring out how to break things. Matt lives in the medical software world and visited the Healthcare Information and Management Systems Society (HIMSS) conference. Matt shares his perspectives on application/cybersecurity through the eyes of the healthcare industry. There is much for us to understand by viewing how other segments approach security and privacy. Matt believes in stepping outside the echo chamber and experiencing how other industries see security, and he achieved that by visiting this non-security conference and sharing his experiences with us. (And if he visits your booth at an event, you better know how your companies make a secure product or solution!)FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

May 6, 2019 • 25min
Jon McCoy — Hacker outreach
Jon McCoy is a security engineer, a developer, and a hacker; and a passionate OWASP advocate. Maybe even a hacker first. Jon has a passion to connect people and break down barriers between hackers and corporate folks. Jon explains the idea of hacker outreach and breaks down what we can expect if we venture to the DefCon event in Las Vegas. Jon also remembered a cautionary tale of Robert’s Fitbit out at a DefCon event. Jon is someone we can all learn from about giving back to our community.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

May 1, 2019 • 37min
Omer Levi Hevroni — K8s can keep a secret?
Omer Levi Hevroni has written extensively on the topic of Kubernetes and secrets, and he's a super dev. He's the author of a tool for secrets management called Kamus. Kamus is an open source, GitOps, zero-trust secrets encryption and decryption solution for Kubernetes applications. Kamus enables users to easily encrypt secrets that can be decrypted only by the application running on Kubernetes. The encryption is done using strong encryption providers (currently supported: Azure KeyVault, Google Cloud KMS, and AES).Find Omer on Twitter to converse about all things K8s and secrets.Show notes:https://blog.solutotlv.com/can-kubernetes-keep-a-secret/https://github.com/Soluto/kamusFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Apr 24, 2019 • 29min
Izar Tarandach — Command line threat modeling with pytm
Izar Tarandach is a threat modeling pioneer, seen as one of the movers and shakers in the threat modeling world. Izar leads a small team that develops the pytm tool, which is self-described as a "A Pythonic framework for threat modeling". The GitHub page goes on to say define your system in Python using the elements and properties described in the pytm framework. Based on your definition, pytm can generate, a Data Flow Diagram (DFD), a Sequence Diagram and most important of all, threats to your system.Reach out to Izar on Twitter and visit the pytm GitHub page to download and try this tool out for yourself!FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Apr 13, 2019 • 25min
Simon Bennetts — OWASP ZAP: past, present, and future
Simon Bennetts is the project leader for OWASP ZAP. Simon joined Robert at CodeMash to talk about the origin of ZAP, the new heads up display, and ZAP API. ZAP is an OWASP FlagShip Project and is available here: https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Zed_Attack_Proxy_ProjectFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Apr 8, 2019 • 20min
Bill Sempf — Growing AppSec People and KidzMash
Robert meets up with Bill Sempf at the CodeMash conference and discusses how to grow AppSec people. Developers can transform into application security people. They also cover how to inspire the next generation of cybersecurity people (kids) through the example of KidzMash.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mar 31, 2019 • 19min
Georgia Weidman — Mobile, IoT, and Pen Testing
Georgia Weidman (@georgiaweidman) met with Robert at CodeMash to discuss her origin story, mobile, IoT, penetration testing, and details about her various companies. If you've never seen Georgia's book on penetration testing, we recommend you grab a copy. http://www.nostarch.com/pentesting To sign up for the newsletter mentioned at the start of this week's show, visit https://info.securityjourney.com/hi5signupFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Feb 25, 2019 • 19min
Conclusion: Season 4 Finale
Here it is. The finale of season four. Thanks to everyone who listens in, and remember, if there are any people you want us to interview on the podcast, tweet at us @AppSecPodcastFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Feb 1, 2019 • 47min
Geoff Hill -- Rapid Threat Model Prototyping Process
Geoff Hill joins Chris and Robert to talk about Rapid Threat Model Prototyping Process. You can find Geoff on Twitter @Tutamantic_SecFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~