
The Application Security Podcast
Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut dig into the tips, tricks, projects, and tactics that make various application security professionals successful. They cover all facets of application security, from threat modeling and OWASP to DevOps+security and security champions. They approach these stories in an educational light, explaining the details in a way those new to the discipline can understand. Chris Romeo is the CEO of Devici and a General Partner at Kerr Ventures, and Robert Hurlbut is a Principal Application Security Architect focused on Threat Modeling at Aquia.
Latest episodes

Jan 30, 2020 • 38min
DJ Schleen — DevOps: The Sec is Silent
DJ Schleen is a seasoned DevSecOps advocate at Sonatype and provides thought leadership to organizations looking to integrate security into their DevOps practices. He encourages organizations to deeply integrate a culture of security and trust into their core values and product development journey. DJ joins us to talk about the philosophy of DevOps and flow, DevSecOps and silos, and the DevSecOps reference architectures. We hope you enjoy this conversation with… DJ Schleen.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jan 24, 2020 • 36min
Niels Tanis — 3rd Party Risk in a .NET World
Niels Tanis has a background in .NET development, pen-testing, and security consultancy. He has experience breaking, defending and building secure applications. Neils joins us to continue our .NET conversation from last year. This time around we focus on the 3rd party risk we pull into our applications by using third party libraries in a .NET conversation from last year. This time around we focus on the 3rd party risk we pull into our applications by using third party libraries in a .NET world.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jan 16, 2020 • 34min
Maya Kaczorowski — Container and Orchestration Security
Maya is a Product Manager in Security & Privacy at Google, focused on container security. She previously worked on encryption at rest and encryption key management. Maya has a Master's in mathematics, focusing on cryptography and game theory. Maya joins us to discuss how containers improve security, a high-level threat model of containers and orchestration, and tips for enhancing security as you role out containers and Kubernetes.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jan 9, 2020 • 37min
Geoff Hill — AppSec, DevSecOps, and Diplomacy
Geoffrey Hill is an AppSec DevSecOps leader and Architect. Geoff joins us to discuss his experiences rolling out DevSecOps in both Agile and non-Agile practicing shops. We hope you enjoy this conversation with...Geoff Hill.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jan 3, 2020 • 37min
Erez Yalon — The OWASP API Security Project
Erez Yalon heads the security research group at Checkmarx. With vast defender and attacker experience and as an independent security researcher, he brings invaluable knowledge and skills to the table. Erez joins us to speak about the new OWASP API Security Project, and more specifically, the new API Security Top 10. We hope you enjoy this conversation with … Erez Yalon.Find the Document on the OWASP GitHub: https://github.com/OWASP/API-SecurityFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dec 20, 2019 • 34min
Steve Lipner — The Past, Present, and Future of SDL
Steve Lipner is a pioneer in cybersecurity, approaching 50 years’ experience. He retired in 2015 from Microsoft where he was the creator and long-time leader of Microsoft’s Security Development Lifecycle (SDL) team. While at Microsoft, Steve also created initiatives to encourage industry adoption of secure development practices and the SDL and served as a member and chair of the SAFECode board. Steve joins us to talk about all things SDL, and I must say, I was super excited for this interview, with way too many questions for someone who was there on day 1 of Secure Development Lifecycle. We hope you enjoy this conversation with…Steve Lipner.You’ll find Steve’s Bio on the SafeCode website.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dec 16, 2019 • 31min
David Kosorok — The Three Pillars of an AppSec Program: Prevent, Detect, and React
David Kosorok is a code security expert, software tester, father of 9, and a self-described major nerd. David is the Director of AppSec at Align Tech, and a fellow member of the Raleigh Durham tech community. David joins us to speak about the three pillars of building an application security program: Prevent, Detect, and React. When we think the program, we’ve never heard anyone relate a program this way, and thought you needed to hear about a different approach to program building. We hope you enjoy this conversation with…. David Kosorok.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dec 1, 2019 • 28min
Chris and Robert: A Taste of Hi-5
As the hosts of the Application Security Podcast, we get the opportunity from time to time to mix it up. This week we gather a few security articles, share a summary, and offer our opinions (for what our opinions are worth). The source of the articles is Hi-5, a weekly newsletter containing five security articles that are worth your time. We scour the Interwebs looking for the best articles on application and product security and share those with you. You can subscribe to Hi-5 on the Security Journey website.Hit us up on Twitter and let us know if you like this format and if we should do more of this type of content. We hope you enjoy this episode with, Chris and Robert.These are the articles:Interest In Secure Design Practices Is Increasing Leading To Two PredictionsDevelopers mentoring other developers: practices I’ve seen work well7 Web Application Security Best PracticesFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nov 21, 2019 • 32min
Bill Dougherty — INCLUDES NO DIRT, practical threat modeling for healthcare and beyond
Bill Dougherty is the vice president of IT and security at Omada Health, where he leads a team responsible for all aspects of internal IT including SaaS strategy, end-user support, vendor management, operational security and compliance. Bill along with Patrick Curry created the INCLUDES NO DIRT approach to threat modeling, which takes threat modeling to the next level, beyond STRIDE, and goes head on with a more modern set of real-world security considerations. We hope you enjoy this conversation with, Bill Dougherty.Find Bill on Twitter @bdognet.For an article about the methodology, see INCLUDES NO DIRT: A Practical Threat Modeling Approach for Digital Healthcare and Beyond For the paper that describes the methodology and how to implement, see INCLUDES NO DIRTFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nov 10, 2019 • 44min
Marc French — The AppSec CISO
Marc French is a security person, firearms geek, scuba guy, lousy golfer, and an aspiring blacksmith. We met Marc in the hallway at the Boston Application Security Conference. Marc has extensive experience as a CISO but came from the world of AppSec to the exec suite, which is not the normal path. We discuss what is a CISO, and what does a CISO actually do, the role of AppSec in the life of the CISO, and tips Marc has for those that wish to become a CISO someday. We hope you enjoy this conversation with Marc French.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast Thanks for Listening! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~