
"Econ 102" with Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg
Economist and "Noahpinion" writer Noah Smith and investor Erik Torenberg make sense of what’s happening in the news, technology, business, and beyond, through the lens of economics. Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co
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Aug 29, 2024 • 1h 3min
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei on AI's Moat, Risk, and SB 1047
Dario Amodei, CEO and co-founder of Anthropic, discusses the economics of AI and its implications for global power dynamics. He highlights how AI companies like Anthropic hold a comparative advantage in development. The conversation dives into the risks of AI, particularly the competition between the U.S. and China. Amodei also shares insights on California's SB 1047 bill and its potential effects on the industry. The talk emphasizes the dual-edge nature of AI, presenting both transformative opportunities and significant challenges for labor and inequality.

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Aug 21, 2024 • 1h 3min
Kamala/Trump Policy Discussion: Housing, Immigration, Tariffs
The discussion highlights the complexities of housing policy as a dual asset and residence, exploring global strategies like Japan's and Singapore's. It questions the effectiveness of grocery price controls and emphasizes the need for strong antitrust measures. Immigration policies are scrutinized, focusing on the disparities between legal and illegal migrants. The political motivations behind immigration versus tariffs are explored, alongside the challenges posed by U.S. export controls on China's semiconductor industry, framing it as a form of economic warfare.

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Aug 14, 2024 • 1h 5min
Tech Maturity and What Lies Ahead
This discussion dives into the evolution of technology perception and the challenges in differentiating between 'tech' and genuine innovation. The hosts explore the maturation of the internet alongside the promising impact of AI on education and healthcare. They also tackle venture capital dynamics in the AI landscape and the financial struggles faced by new startups. The conversation touches on shifting power within major tech firms and how these changes might affect future investments and the political landscape.

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Aug 7, 2024 • 1h 4min
Explaining Kamala’s VP Pick, the US Economy, Venezuela’s Fall and China’s Rise
The hosts dive into the implications of Kamala Harris's VP pick and its effect on working-class voters. They analyze recent stock market fluctuations and the economic challenges posed by rising interest rates. The discussion then shifts to Venezuela's dramatic collapse, highlighting mismanagement and leadership failures. Finally, they explore East Asia's economic successes, emphasizing China's advancements in technology and innovation, while drawing comparisons with the U.S. economy.

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Jul 31, 2024 • 1h 2min
AI, Software, and White-Collar Jobs
The discussion dives into the economic potential of developing nations like India and Vietnam, countering skeptical views on poverty. AI's dual impact on white-collar jobs is explored, emphasizing how automation reshapes roles in sales and finance. Anecdotes about a charismatic salesman add a fun twist, while the complexity of immigration highlights its positive contributions. The need for adaptive industrial policy in the face of global competition, particularly against China, rounds out the conversation, advocating for strategic government interventions.

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Jul 26, 2024 • 1h 1min
Kamala's Chances, Biden/Trump's Legacy
The potential presidential candidacy of Kamala Harris is explored alongside Biden's legacy and the economic impacts of COVID-19. The discussions delve into the contrasts between Biden and Trump's policies, including their strategies on immigration and manufacturing. The significance of vaccine rollouts during Trump's presidency is critiqued, alongside the influence of foreign relations on U.S. competitiveness. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the evolving political landscape, filled with strategic decisions and missed opportunities.

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Jul 17, 2024 • 1h 6min
J.D. Vance, Biden's Path Forward, and Silicon Valley’s Shift to Trump
A provocative discussion unfolds around J.D. Vance's vice presidential nomination and its implications for Trump-aligned candidates. The dialogue uncovers the complex intersection of Vance's venture capitalist background and working-class roots, shedding light on U.S.-China relations. Energy policies are scrutinized, revealing the blend of fossil fuel support and green initiatives under Biden. The conversation touches on the polarization within tech circles and draws parallels to historical political divisions, all while navigating the turbulent waters of America's current political landscape.

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Jul 10, 2024 • 1h 2min
Evaluating Trump’s Policy Platform
The discussion delves into the Republican Party's evolving focus on economic issues, influenced by Trump. There's a critique of immigration policies and their complex ties to inflation, emphasizing the need for reforms. Moderation and religious influences in political platforms are explored, advocating for a balanced approach. Tax cuts during Trump's presidency are analyzed, revealing their limited impact on growth. The challenges of supporting an aging population and financial assistance are examined, highlighting housing policy's role in social equity.

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Jul 6, 2024 • 59min
The 'Be Careful What You Wish For' Episode
The hosts dive into America's political landscape, assessing the 2024 presidential race and flirting with the idea of Kamala Harris or Michelle Obama as formidable challengers to Trump. They tackle the Supreme Court's Chevron ruling and its implications for regulation. The conversation shifts to the role of political affiliations in the judiciary and civil service, considering initiatives like Project 2025. Lastly, they reflect on social movements and the nuanced complexities of ambition, reforming civil service, and education equity in today's society.

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Jun 25, 2024 • 1h 7min
Trump/Biden, Chomsky/Foreign Policy, & Romantic Relationships
Engaging discussions cover the complexities of Trump's policies and the contrasting approaches of Biden. The conversation highlights Chomsky's critique of U.S. foreign policy, linking historical contexts to current geopolitical tensions. Personal relationships are examined, focusing on societal pressures and emotional connections, while the 'Coolidge effect' is theorized in human attraction. Additionally, the hosts tackle the dynamics of anti-American sentiment, intertwining personal and political narratives for a thought-provoking analysis.
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