Design Executive Council Podcast

AI should not be measured by how fast it can be deployed, but by the trust it builds and the creativity it amplifies.In this episode of the Design Executive Outlook on Enterprise AI series, our founder and CEO, Gordon Ching, sits down with Eric Snowden, SVP of Design at Adobe. Eric shares how Adobe resisted the industry rush to bolt AI onto products, choosing instead to prioritize trust, agency, and user choice.He explains why design leadership in the AI era is not about chasing speed, but about defining the conditions of trust. From giving creatives the ability to opt out of AI workflows, to expanding ambition without reducing teams, to embedding transparency as a differentiator, Adobe’s approach reframes AI as a catalyst for empowerment rather than displacement.Eric emphasizes that the difference between enabling people and displacing them is the line that defines creative leadership in this moment. By treating trust as a strategy and agency as non-negotiable, leaders can turn AI from a source of fear into a force for growth and lasting empowerment.Podcast Recorded in February 2025-----------------------------------------------------------------⁠⁠⁠⁠Learn more⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ about the Design Executive Council MembershipRead the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AI Report⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the newsletterFollow the Design Executive Council on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect with Gordon Ching on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect with Eric Snowden on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn 

Benedikt Lehnert, an Entrepreneurship and Design Fellow at Princeton University, discusses the ethical challenges and responsibilities of design leadership in the age of AI. He emphasizes the need for designers to act as ethical navigators who ensure AI benefits society and the planet, moving beyond mere product creation. Benedikt also highlights the potential of multimodal interactions and the importance of intentional prototyping to achieve sustainable value, while urging tech leaders to preserve human creativity and dignity in their innovations.

Christina Vallery, Chief Design Officer at The Cigna Group, discusses the expansive impact of AI on design and user experience. She emphasizes that AI isn't just a tool but a catalyst reshaping creativity and human connection. Christina calls for design leaders to adapt and embrace hyper-personalized technology, blending empathy with innovation. She envisions a future where immersive environments redefine technology engagement, urging leaders to harness AI's potential to craft unparalleled experiences and keep pace with evolving consumer expectations.

What are humans uniquely good at, and where do machines excel? For Kurt Walecki, Fmr. GM & SVP of Design at Intuit, with over 30 years of experience, this is the defining question of the AI era.In this episode of the Design Executive Outlook on Enterprise AI series, Kurt shares how successful innovation requires more than technology. It demands multidisciplinary collaboration, design, engineering, product, and data all leaning in together with empathy for the customer. At the center of his philosophy is functional allocation: creativity, empathy, and judgment remain human strengths, while AI contributes speed, precision, and scale. The future lies in orchestrating both to amplify outcomes.Kurt also addresses the reality many organizations face: AI is still narrow, constrained by tech debt and legacy systems, while the promise of predictive insights remains on the horizon. His concept of the “60/60 lean-in” reframes collaboration, showing how overlapping commitment and early co-creation accelerate trust and business impact.From eliminating “human drudgery” to anticipating customer needs, Kurt maps the evolution of AI’s value, and calls on organizations to become more customer-centric, empathetic, and design-led in shaping the future of responsible AI.Podcast Recorded in November 2024-----------------------------------------------------------------⁠Learn more⁠⁠ about the Design Executive Council MembershipRead the ⁠⁠AI Report⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up⁠⁠ for the newsletterFollow the Design Executive Council on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Connect with Gordon Ching on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Connect with Kurt Walecki on ⁠⁠LinkedIn 

How can businesses leverage AI as a material whose true value emerges when applied to real business problems, and not simply magic?n this episode of the Design Executive Outlook on Enterprise AI series, Gordon Ching sits down with Matthew Holloway, Global Head of Design at SnapLogic, to explore a new way of thinking about artificial intelligence.With over a decade of experience spanning early machine learning startups to enterprise-scale AI integration, Matthew challenges the hype-driven mindset that too often drives AI adoption. He argues that the real opportunity lies not in chasing novelty, but in treating AI as a design material, one with its own texture, constraints, and possibilities.From exposing the limits of today’s conversational models to underscoring the importance of early design involvement, Matthew offers practical insights for design leaders navigating the AI era. He emphasizes the need to anchor innovation in real customer problems, reminding us that “ideas are naive, but problems have wisdom in them.”This conversation repositions AI as something to be studied, shaped, and mastered, just like past materials such as mobile, the internet, and social networks. His call to action is clear: to design meaningfully with AI, we must stop romanticizing it as magic and start working with it like matter - with curiosity, humility, and care.Podcast Recorded in October 2024-----------------------------------------------------------------Learn more⁠ about the Design Executive Council MembershipRead the ⁠AI Report⁠⁠Sign up⁠ for the newsletterFollow the Design Executive Council on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Connect with Gordon Ching on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Connect with Matthew Holloway on ⁠LinkedIn 

We often reduce artificial intelligence to two letters: AI. But what about the intelligence behind the artificial?In this episode of the Design Executive Podcast, Gordon Ching is joined by Dan Makoski, Chief Design Advisor & Fmr. Chief Design Officer at UnitedHealth Group, who reframes the AI conversation by focusing on what’s too often ignored, the human side of intelligence. He challenges design leaders to look beyond technical progress and ask deeper questions: What does it mean to be intelligent, conscious, or simply useful?From the jargon of banking and tech systems to the culture of optimization and automation, Dan highlights how AI reflects our systemic values and exposes where they fall short. AI isn’t just a tool; it’s a mirror and a test of what we value.This episode is a provocation to leaders: to reflect on the tradeoffs, navigate the tensions, and bring balance to AI decision-making so technology serves people first.-----------------------------------------------------------------Learn more about the Design Executive Council MembershipRead the AI ReportSign up for the newsletterFollow the Design Executive Council on LinkedInConnect with Gordon Ching on LinkedInConnect with Dan Makoski on LinkedIn 

AI is not the answer; it's a tool.In this episode of the Design Executive Podcast, Gordon Ching is joined by Andy Vitale, VP, Head of Product Design at Taxwell, to explore how AI is reshaping product, design, and business strategy. They examine the hype surrounding artificial intelligence. While much of the world is chasing AI's "magical" promise, Andy brings it back to reality: AI isn’t here to solve all our problems; it’s here to help us solve them smarter and faster.He stresses that true value comes when AI is grounded in real human needs. For Andy, design's role in AI isn't about chasing shiny tools, it's about defining the right problems, understanding user outcomes, and then applying AI with purpose. Throughout the conversation, Andy brings a human-centered lens to a tech-saturated topic, calling on leaders to stop asking what AI can do and start asking what people actually need. How can we make people comfortable with AI and provide them with value? The real impact happens when we focus on human intent, when we champion the human experience and connect it to measurable business value/outcomes. AI can help only if the solution is grounded in people-first thinking.His message is clear: go back to the basics, communicate the intent, stay curious, and use AI to accelerate what matters. Podcast Recorded in October 2024—--------------------------------------------------------------Learn more about the Design Executive Council MembershipRead the AI ReportSign up for the newsletterConnect with Gordon Ching on LinkedInConnect with Andy Vitale on LinkedInFollow the Design Executive Council on LinkedIn

What does it take to lead at every altitude of design? In this episode, our Founder and CEO, Gordon Ching, sits down with Jyoti Shukla, SVP of Experience Design at SiriusXM Pandora and board member at KEXP, to explore the dual nature of modern design leadership. From steering strategic conversations in the boardroom to shaping human-centered products on the ground, Jyoti shares how she toggles between macro vision and micro execution and why both perspectives are essential to lasting impact.Drawing from her career across iconic brands like Xbox, Starbucks, and Nordstrom, Jyoti opens up about building design cultures that last, navigating rapid business transformation, and cultivating the kind of trust and resilience that high-performing teams need. She discusses how design leaders can grow into business leaders, the importance of customer obsession, and how to anchor creative work in real business outcomes.Whether you’re scaling a team or sitting on a board, this episode offers a masterclass in leading with clarity, empathy, and strategic intent. Tune in to learn how the best design leaders don’t just design products, they design futures.----------------------Learn more about the Design Executive Council: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on socials:⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram

In this episode, host Gordon Ching is joined by Suzanne Pellican, Kaaren Hanson, and Benedikt Lehnert to unpack what it really takes to lead through change, from the mobile shift to the AI era.We reflect on past tactics like immersive scavenger hunts during the mobile transition and contrast them with today’s AI reality: faster cycles, less coordination, and tools evolving by the minute.Designers are asking: How do we stay grounded in real human needs? How do we build trust, ensure transparency, and avoid harm? Where are the patterns and how do we spot them in the noise?From Google Maps to W2 upload issues, we explore how adoption, comfort, and definition of quality are shifting in real time.Tune in to hear how today’s design leaders are moving from reaction to rhythm and why this moment demands we lead by doing.Listen now.----------------------Learn more about Design Executive Council: ⁠⁠⁠Click here⁠⁠Our Monthly Briefing: Gain access to essential design executive briefings and leadership events trusted by leading Chief Design Officers in global companies: Subscribe nowFollow us on socialsLinkedIn | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Instagram

Kaaren Hanson, a design leader known for her insights on team dynamics, and Benedikt Lehnert, a tech and design expert, explore the evolving landscape of design careers. They discuss the pressure on mid-level roles as expectations increase beyond execution to strategic impact. The rise of AI is reshaping required skills, with younger designers thriving on new tools while seniors adapt. The conversation also touches on the importance of customer-centric design and how organizations must innovate to stay relevant in a fast-paced market.