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Aug 7, 2025 • 1h 1min

Show 1440: Protecting Your Immune System from Everyday Toxins

We may not often stop to think about it, but our water, food, furniture and other ordinary items are frequently contaminated with toxic chemicals. In this episode, Dr. Aly Cohen describes these threats to our health. You may have heard of compounds that can disrupt hormonal balance (endocrine disruptors). Everyday toxins like these can also interfere with the ability of the immune system to function properly. What can you do to reduce your exposure? How You Can Listen: You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream on Saturday, Aug. 9, 2025, at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on Aug. 11, 2025. Doing an Environmental Assessment: As a rheumatologist, Dr. Cohen frequently treats patients whose immune systems have turned on them to produce conditions like lupus or rheumatoid arthritis. As an integrative medicine practitioner, she has learned to look at the patient’s environment for clues about the toxic compounds that may be causing the problem. The first environmental assessment she conducted was actually for her beloved family dog, Truxtan. When he developed autoimmune liver disease, she tried to figure out why. How Everyday Toxins Disrupt the Immune System: Dr. Cohen wasn’t able to save her dog, but the experience made her realize just how many potentially toxic chemicals we are exposed to in the course of our daily lives. If you look around your kitchen, you may discover that most of your food containers might be suspect. Plastic is incredibly convenient, since it is lightweight, break-resistant and cheap. But it often contains plasticizers such as bisphenols or phthalates that are endocrine disruptors. Some can disrupt the immune system as well. After all, immune system cells interact with the endocrine system on a regular basis. The two are tightly linked. Other food packaging can also contribute undesirable compounds such as PFAS. Exposure to these may lead to chronic inflammation. Dr. Cohen tells about a patient, Massimo, who ran a pizza shop. A young man, he had troubling fatigue. Changing his routine so that he wore nitrile gloves while handling pizza boxes helped a lot. So did bicycling to work. Everyday Toxins in Our Water: How safe is your water? One of Dr. Cohen’s patients had moved to New York from a Latin American country. Although she had filtered her water in her home country, she believed the tap water in New York was safe. It turned out the old plumbing in her building was contaminated with lead. In addition, she was relying on rice as a food staple, and it was contaminated with arsenic. Lead and arsenic are well-recognized as toxic chemicals. Filtering her water and washing her rice helped her feel much better. How do you make sure your water is free of everyday toxins? Dr. Cohen says several types of filtration devices can be useful, if they are used according to instructions. That means changing the filter medium on the recommended schedule. Any filter is better than no filter, but by far the best approach is known as reverse osmosis. This results in clean water you can trust to be free of toxins. Can You Avoid Plastic? The topic of water is almost inextricably linked to the question of plastic. Much of the water sold for consumption away from home is bottled in plastic. In addition to environmental considerations, this can expose us to plasticizers such as phthalates or even to tiny bits of plastic known as microplastics. These are accumulating in our bodies and may be harming our immune system. Bottles are not the only source of plastic in our food supply. Most cans are lined with a resin to prevent corrosion. This frequently contains BPA, bisphenol A, as a plasticizer. Some manufacturers have switched to another bisphenol instead. Thus, they can claim that the can is BPA-free, but it isn’t necessarily safer. Don’t Use Plastic Containers in the Microwave! One simple rule that can cut down on a lot of exposure to immune-disrupting plasticizers is don’t microwave food in plastic containers. Heat tends to speed leaching of plasticizers from the containers into the contents. Yes, we know a lot of frozen meals come in plastic containers that are supposedly microwave-safe. Don’t believe them. Instead, transfer the food to a glass or ceramic dish or bowl and heat it in that. That way you know you’re not getting any extra plasticizer in your snack. Prioritize! Dr. Cohen points out that to get the best results from efforts to avoid everyday toxins, we need to figure out where the exposure is greatest. That’s why she usually likes to start with cleaning up the water supply, since for most of us that is our top exposure. Analyzing your diet and focusing on foods you eat often is another way to prioritize. Those are the foods that should be free of toxins if at all possible. She recommends using the EWG (Environmental Working Group) lists of the “Dirty Dozen” foods that often contain pesticides and the “Clean Fifteen” foods that are generally safe.  For the Dirty Dozen, it makes sense to purchase USDA Organic produce whenever possible. Removing Pesticides: Dr. Cohen offers some simple, inexpensive ways to wash your produce and get the pesticide off. Add 1 part vinegar to 3 parts filtered water and let the fruit or vegetables soak in that for several minutes. Then rinse it off well with filtered water. The 21-Day Plan: To make it easier for people to implement the changes and avoid everyday toxins, Dr. Cohen offers a 21-day plan. It offers steps to avoid lots of harmful chemicals including obesogens (chemicals that make us fat). One simple way to take the first steps, after filtering the water you drink, is to carry a metal spoon and fork. That way you won’t have to resort to using plastic utensils to eat hot food, especially soup. Another step is to be cautious with skin care products. Using the online EWG guide SkinDeep can help you find sunscreen or moisturizer that is mostly free of undesirable agents. When shopping, make it a habit to seek out USDA Organic certified products for those items you eat most. Learn More: Dr. Cohen is not the only doctor concerned about toxic exposures. A summary of research into the “exposome” was published in JAMA last spring. Here’s a link. This Week’s Guest: Dr. Aly Cohen is a board-certified rheumatologist and integrative medicine physician. A member of the faculty of the Academy of Integrative Health and Medicine, Southern California University of Health Sciences, and the University of California, Irvine, she is a leading medical and legal expert in environmental health. Dr. Cohen is creator of TheSmartHuman.com social media platform, and the co-author of the bestselling consumer guidebook Non-Toxic: Guide to Living Healthy in a Chemical World. Her latest book is Detoxify: The Everyday Toxins Harming Your Immune System and How to Defend Against Them. Her website is https://alycohenmd.com/ Aly Cohen, MD, author of Detoxify The People’s Pharmacy is reader supported. When you buy through links in this post, we may earn a small affiliate commission (at no cost to you). Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, August 11, 2025, after broadcast on August 9. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free, or you can find it on your favorite platform. 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Aug 1, 2025 • 1h 3min

Show 1439: What Men Need to Know to Overcome Prostate Cancer

In this episode, our guest, Dr. Andrew Armstrong of Duke University, discusses recent advances that men should know to overcome prostate cancer. We ask about former President Joe Biden’s diagnosis. What does it mean to have Stage IV prostate cancer and a Gleason score of 9? News outlets have reported that Mr. Biden’s previous prostate screening test was in 2014. How often should men be tested for this common cancer? What does the PSA (prostate specific antigen) test really tell us? How You Can Listen: You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream on Saturday, Aug. 2, 2025, at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org).  Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on Aug. 4, 2025. How Do We Detect Prostate Cancer? Prostate cancer affects one man out of every eight in the course of a lifetime. Fortunately, if it is caught early and treated appropriately, most men do not die of this disease. They die of something else, even if they may still have prostate cancer cells. For years, the mainstay of prostate cancer screening has been the level of PSA, prostate specific antigen. Although it is specific to prostate, it is not really specific to prostate cancer. All prostate cells make it, so doctors watch for unusual increases in PSA. That suggests a rapid growth of the prostate, which could be caused by prostate cancer. Not every prostate cancer produces large amounts of PSA, though. That’s why urologists watch for changes rather than using a threshold number. Men with a family history of prostate cancer are at higher risk for developing it themselves. Ideally, they would start screening at a younger age and possibly have it done more frequently. In men who have a limited life expectancy, doctors may not recommend prostate screening. PSA alone is just the first step. If PSA is elevated or if it is rising, men will need further workup. What Is Next to Overcome Prostate Cancer? Often the next step is imaging. Magnetic resonance imaging of the prostate can be very informative. If there is a suspicious area on the MRI, the doctor will schedule a biopsy. Current practice is to use the MRI and ultrasound to guide the biopsy, so that the tissue examined is from the area thought to harbor the tumor. Grading the Tumor: The tissue removed during the biopsy will be examined by a pathologist. That expert will use the characteristics of the cells in the tissue to assign it a Gleason score. These range from 6 (not very worrisome) to 10 (the most aggressive). Former President Biden’s cancer had a Gleason score of 9, which is serious. Doctors also want to know if the tumor has spread beyond the prostate gland itself. To find out, they may conduct a PSMA PET scan. This picks up prostate-specific membrane antigen (hence PSMA) wherever it may be in the body. Stage IV, like former President Joe Biden’s cancer, has spread outside the prostate to other parts of the body. In his case, the cancer has metastasized to his bones. In some cases, prostate tissue will be sent for genetic testing. BRCA2 is associated with breast and ovarian cancers, but men who carry this gene are more vulnerable to prostate cancer as well. Approaches to Preventing Prostate Cancer: The risk of prostate cancer appears to be roughly half hereditary and half environmental. That means there are things that men can do to reduce their risk. Avoiding environmental toxins is crucial. Plastics and plasticizers don’t belong in our food or our bodies. Diet matters, of course. Not everyone loves broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage and cauliflower, but getting plenty of these cruciferous vegetables can help reduce the risk of prostate cancer. Another important step is to focus on exercise. Not only can regular vigorous physical activity reduce the chance of developing prostate cancer, it also is very useful in counteracting the side effects of the powerful drugs used to overcome prostate cancer. Options for Treating Prostate Cancer: Blocking Testosterone: Often the doctor prescribes leuprolide (Lupron) to shut down testosterone production. That part of the protocol is referred to as “androgen deprivation therapy” or ADT for short. An even more powerful androgen blocker such as abiraterone (Zytiga), apalutamide (Erleada), darolutamide (Nubeqa) and enzalutamide (Xtandi) may be added. These drugs can help men overcome prostate cancer, which seems to thrive on testosterone. Blocking the androgen receptors with one of these medicines has made treatment for prostate cancer more effective. Androgen blockers stop testosterone formation even further and thus discourage the growth of the cancer. That’s the benefit. The downside is that men suffer the effects of “low T.” Here is where exercise stars, helping men feel better even when their testosterone levels are nonexistent. Other Treatments for Prostate Cancer: There are nonhormonal approaches to treating prostate cancer that may be used in conjunction with androgen blocking or in some cases independently. One is surgery, in which the prostate is removed. That used to be the standard treatment. With new approaches available, it is one option among many. Another is radiation. Dr. Armstrong describes some of the different types of radiation, which can be very effective when used together with androgen blocking medication. There are also immune therapies. One exciting new therapy, called Pluvicto uses radioligands that seek out and attach to PSMA. Because it can find prostate cancer cells wherever they are in the body, it is being considered for treating metastatic prostate cancer when ADT may no longer be working well. What to Know to Overcome Prostate Cancer: Dr. Armstrong wants men to know that prostate cancer can be detected early; when it is, it is often curable. Even in the case of advanced disease, there is hope. He urges men to ask for second opinions on treatment and take advantage of a multidisciplinary team when possible. Above all, he says: “The good news is that treatment can extend life often dramatically, and that many men, most men in fact with prostate cancer, don’t die of prostate cancer. They die of other stuff.” This Week’s Guest: Andrew J Armstrong, MD, ScM, FACP, is Professor of Medicine, Surgery, Pharmacology and Cancer Biology at Duke University. He is Director of Research at the Duke Cancer Institute Center for Prostate and Urologic Cancers. His appointments are in the Division of Medical Oncology in the Departments of Medicine and Urology at Duke University. Dr. Armstrong is one of the country’s leading prostate cancer researchers. Andrew Armstrong, MD, Professor of Medicine, Surgery, Pharmacology and Cancer Biology at Duke University. Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, August 4, 2025, after broadcast on August 2. In this week’s podcast, Dr. Armstrong describes how to find trustworthy information online. We discuss diet, exercise and natural approaches that can be helpful in preventing and recovering from prostate cancer treatment. When will medical centers recognize the value of personalized, structured exercise for cancer rehab, as they already do for cardiac rehab? You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free, or you can find it on your favorite platform. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Jul 24, 2025 • 59min

Show 1380: Avoiding Lyme and Other Tick-Borne Diseases (Archive)

In this episode, two experts draw on the latest research about avoiding Lyme disease and other infections that may be transmitted through tick bites. Why are these conditions so difficult to diagnose? Most importantly, how can people with lingering symptoms from Lyme get help and start to feel better? We consider both conventional and alternative approaches. You may want to listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org). Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on July 26, 2025. The Basics of Lyme Disease: We begin with a quick review of the history of Lyme disease, which was first identified in Old Lyme, Connecticut, in the 1970s. Researchers eventually identified the pathogen causing the symptoms as Borrelia burgdorferi and means of transmission as bites from a black-legged tick (aka deer tick). Even though it was originally thought to be limited to New England, epidemiologists now recognize that Lyme disease is widespread across the country. Half a million people will come down with Lyme disease this year. Many others will suffer symptoms from other pathogens transmitted through tick bites. Persistent Symptoms of Lyme Disease: For much too long, doctors thought that any symptoms persisting after a course of antibiotics were psychosomatic. Patients were understandably distressed by this dismissal of their suffering. Many people report fatigue, body aches and brain fog. Some have difficulties with balance or feeling weak or faint when they stand and have been diagnosed with POTS (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome). Headaches, rashes, heart palpitations and joint pain may also be part of the picture. If you think some of these symptoms ring a bell, you are right. Many people with long COVID or even chronic fatigue suffer with similar problems. Avoiding Lyme or Treating It Over the Long Term: One of our expert guests, Dr. John Aucott, does research on Lyme disease and directs the Johns Hopkins Lyme Disease Clinical Research Center. His study utilizing functional MRI was very revealing. When regular imaging studies are done on people with persistent Lyme disease symptoms, the results are not particularly striking. But functional MRI results, when people are asked to do cognitive tasks while undergoing magnetic resonance imaging, show a different picture. These people’s brains are not functioning normally. No wonder they are upset about brain fog or struggling to concentrate! There are several possible explanations for why Lyme disease symptoms may persist. The spirochete responsible for these symptoms does not require oxygen and is very good at “hiding out” within tissues. When reactivated, it could cause symptoms. On the other hand, the immune system may become hyper-activated and have a hard time calming down. That too could contribute to symptoms. Non-governmental organizations have funded the Study of Lyme Immunology and Clinical Events (SLICE). In this trial, researchers have identified some risk factors associated with post-treatment Lyme disease (PTLD, aka long Lyme). They are also enrolling patients in a treatment trial. Standard of Care for Lyme Disease: Naturopathic doctor Alexis Chesney points out that there are different standards of care for Lyme disease. The CDC has published guidelines for treating “four important manifestations of Lyme disease.” Those are erythema migrans (the classic “bulls-eye” rash), neurologic Lyme disease, Lyme carditis and Lyme arthritis. The International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society (ILADS) offers its own treatment guidelines. Both experts agree that early treatment is preferable to late treatment. Dr. Chesney describes the ability of the Borrelia spirochete to protect itself by changing to a “round form” as well as by forming a biofilm that wards off antibacterial medicines. One way to combat this is by utilizing herbs that can counteract biofilm formation, such as cats’ claw or Japanese knotweed. She also pays attention to supporting patients experiencing a Herxheimer reaction, in which dying spirochetes release toxins. This can make a person feel very ill indeed. Natural ways to mitigate this response include milk thistle, burdock or Epsom salt baths. Avoiding Lyme Disease by Preventing Tick Bites: Even better than early treatment is prevention. The best prevention is to avoid tick bites. Wear shoes and socks that have been treated with permethrin. (Do not apply permethrin directly to the skin.) Using an effective insect repellent also helps, and a thorough tick check upon coming in from outdoors is indispensable. It takes ticks some time to transmit Borrelia, so prompt tick removal can help prevent illness. This Week’s Guests: Dr. John Aucott is the Barbara Townsend Cromwell Professor in Lyme Disease and Tick-borne Illness at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. An infectious diseases specialist and Lyme disease expert in the Division of Rheumatology, he is the director of the Johns Hopkins Lyme Disease Clinical Research Center. https://www.hopkinslyme.org/ John Aucott, MD, Johns Hopkins University Alexis Chesney, MS, ND, Lac, is a naturopathic physician, acupuncturist, author and educator. Since 2010, Dr. Chesney has worked with people of all ages on chronic disease, general wellness, nutrition and lifestyle counseling. She has dedicated herself to working with clients who have complex chronic illness, and who often have diagnoses such as Lyme and vector-borne diseases, mold toxicity, mast cell activation syndrome, among other conditions. Dr. Chesney is the author of Preventing Lyme & Other Tick-Borne Diseases: Control Ticks in the Home Landscape; Prevent Infection Using Herbal Protocols; Treat Tick Bites with Natural Remedies. Dr. Chesney offers an online course, Preventing Lyme and Tick-Borne Disease: Ticks and Tick-Borne Diseases, Prevention, and Acute Lyme & TBD Treatment. Here is the link: https://health-transformations.teachable.com/p/preventing-lyme-and-other-tick-borne-diseases. Her website is https://www.dralexischesney.com/ Alexis Chesney, MS, ND, Lac, author of Preventing Lyme and Other Tick-Borne Diseases Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, July 28, 2025, after broadcast on July 26. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 1min

Show 1438: Bites, Burns, and Blisters? Solving Summer Skin Problems!

This week, we welcome dermatologist Dr. Chris Adigun to our studio to answer your questions about summer skin problems. You can call in your stories and questions about bites, burns and blisters between 7 and 8 am EDT on Saturday, June 21, 2025, at 888-472-3366. Or you can send us your question or story ahead of time by email: radio@peoplespharmacy.com. You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org).  Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on July 21, 2025. The Link Between Sun Exposure and Skin Cancer: Intense summer sunshine can cause sunburn and skin damage. The most worrisome consequences are skin cancers that may show up on cheeks, ears, noses, lips or other unexpected places. How can you recognize a potential skin cancer? What will the dermatologist do about it? Even more important, can you reduce your risk for basal or squamous cell carcinoma? (Those are technical terms to describe skin cancers that are not melanoma.) What are the best ways to avoid harming your skin while you are enjoying the great outdoors, whether you are at the beach or on the hiking trail? Are there criteria you can use to choose the best sunscreen without spending a fortune? How often do you need to apply it? Can you get enough vitamin D compounds if you wear a high SPF sunscreen? Are there skin conditions that might actually benefit from a bit of sun and salt water? Lowering Your Chance of Melanoma: The relationship between sun exposure and melanoma is less clear than that between sun and basal or squamous cell cancers. Find out what might make a spot suspicious. Where should you be checking your skin? What can a dermatologist do to help? Heat and Humidity Challenges: In addition to sun, heat and humidity can challenge our skin. Fungal infections may proliferate under those conditions, resulting in athlete’s foot, jock itch or under-breast rash. Can we make our sweaty skin less hospitable to fungi? Have you been troubled with heat rash? We’ll find out what it is and what to do to get rid of it. Other Summer Skin Problems: Long summer hikes can result in more trouble than sunburn or sore muscles. Unless you are very careful with your shoes, sweaty feet can develop blisters. Are there good preventive strategies? If you get a blister anyway, what can you do to ease the pain–and keep it from getting worse? Bug bites may also be the bane of your existence. Chiggers hang out in grass or brush waiting to take a bite of a tasty mammal walking by. Can you avoid or discourage them? And if you do get chigger bites, how can you manage the dreadful itch? We also want to avoid bites from ticks and mosquitoes. They may have different niches and behaviors, so avoiding them may require different tactics. What works best? How can you choose a good insect repellent for outdoor activities, and will it interact with your sunscreen? Poison Ivy and Its Cousins: Poison ivy, poison oak and poison sumac all contain the resin urushiol, which can be extremely irritating to sensitive skin. Do you know how to identify these plants so you can avoid them? If you find yourself in the middle of a poison ivy thicket, can you take quick action and reduce the chance of a rash? If you end up with a rash–it happens–we’ll find out how you can ease the suffering. Call in Your Questions About Summer Skin Problems: Dr. Chris Adigun will be in our studio to answer your questions about bug bites, blisters, burns and other summer skin problems from 7 to 8 am EDT on July 19, 2025. Give us a call to ask a question or share a story: 888-472-3366 or email us ahead of time: radio@peoplespharmacy.com This Week’s Guest: Chris G. Adigun, MD, FAAD, is a board-certified dermatologist who practices both general dermatology and cosmetic dermatology at the Dermatology and Laser Center of Chapel Hill, NC. Dr. Adigun is devoted to increasing public awareness of skin cancer and the harmful effects of UV rays—both medical and cosmetic. She specializes in both nail disorders and laser treatments. Dr. Chris Adigun, dermatologist, with People’s Pharmacy hosts Joe & Terry Graedon Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, July 21, 2025, after broadcast on July 19. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 6min

Show 1437: Why Modern Life Breaks Our Brains and What We Can Do About It

In this episode, we acknowledge the many reasons that people may be feeling anxious or depressed. It often seems that current conditions are designed to break our brains. Perhaps that’s why 60 million Americans suffer from depression or anxiety. Not everyone who might be feeling nervous or down in the dumps deserves a diagnosis. However, they can benefit from the practices we discuss in this hour. Pharmaceutical approaches such as antidepressants can be helpful for people with depression, especially in the short term. Over the long haul, though, we might want to consider whether changing our habits could help us develop the resilience we need. After all, antidepressants frequently result in side effects. Moreover, many people find it difficult to discontinue an antidepressant. Anti-anxiety agents carry similar risks. Scientific research has shown us the importance of neuroplasticity. Can we tweak our neurochemistry by embracing some simple tenets for living? We don’t really have broken brains, but we might be lacking the skills we need to pursue robust mental fitness. Where will we learn them? How You Can Listen: You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream on Saturday, July 12, 2025, at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org).  Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on July 14, 2025. Staying Connected Protects Our Brains: Good nutrition, adequate sleep and regular exercise are all pillars of mental as well as physical health. Our guest, integrative psychiatrist Drew Ramsey, says staying connected with others is equally important. Cultivating a variety of connections is crucial for our mental health, including friends, family and even casual acquaintances. We should keep in mind that building community is different from building friendships; we need both for mental fitness. Social isolation can be damaging both for teenagers and for older individuals. Can we use social media to bolster our support systems rather than allowing them to wither? What skills can we help our teens acquire? Dr. Ramsey described a study, the AMEND trial, that combined social connection through social media with learning to cook. The young men in the study posted their cooking experiments on Instagram and bonded with each other over the experience. Adopting a more healthful diet also reduced the youths’ risk for depression. Maybe Ultra-Processed Food Breaks Our Brains: One aspect of nutrition that is important to consider is how our food affects our microbiota. Our gut microbiome has a powerful influence on inflammation in our bodies. After all, the immune system is in part anchored in the gut, especially in the gut microbiome. When the microbiome gets disrupted and inflammation rises, our mood and mental health can suffer. What should we be eating to feed our microbes and keep them happy? Dr. Ramsey offers a little rhyme as a mnemonic: “Seafood, greens, nuts & beans…and a little dark chocolate.” We admit the last line breaks the rhyme, but it isn’t too hard to remember! When we asked what foods to focus on for healthy gut microbes, he suggested lentils. Although they are not technically beans, as in the rhyme, they are legumes and contain lots of fiber that helps gut microbes flourish. Dr. Ramsey also extolls the benefits of microgreens, another food that gut microbes love. The microbiome acts as a master dial on our immune system and inflammation levels. Beyond Diet and Activity: Dr. Ramsey provides nine tenets for reclaiming robust mental health, even when we may feel like our situation breaks our brains. In addition to thoughtful nutrition, adequate sleep and reliable physical activity, he also stresses the importance of unburdening yourself of past trauma. This need not have been anything as major as a traffic accident or losing a parent, though such experiences are certainly traumatic and deserve attention. Even minor traumas like being picked on as a child can affect our sense of well-being. Unburdening is the process of acknowledging those and trying to understand where our past is tripping us and blocking our efforts to be mentally healthy in our present. Unburdening yourself can leave you feeling freer to pursue your goals. It helps ground you so that you can pursue your purpose. Journaling, therapy or creative pursuits could all help with unburdening. How Can You Find Your Purpose? Finding your purpose might not sound like a step towards better mental fitness, but it is. How do you know when you have found your purpose? Focusing on a sense of identity and of fulfillment will help you with this. Finding a sense of purpose is important at every stage of life, but it may be especially important for older individuals. A job is not synonymous with purpose, although at times they may overlap. Sometimes, people who have relied on work to provide their sense of purpose find themselves at loose ends when they retire. This Week’s Guest: Drew Ramsey, MD, is a leading board-certified integrative psychiatrist, best-selling author and leading proponent of Nutritional Psychiatry and Mental Fitness. He served as an Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Columbia University in the Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons for twenty years. Dr. Ramsey is founder of the Brain Food Clinic in New York City and Spruce Mental Health in Jackson, WY. He is the author of several books, including his latest book, Healing the Modern Brain: Nine Tenets to Build Mental Fitness and Revitalize Your Mind. The People’s Pharmacy is reader supported. When you buy through links in this post, we may earn a small affiliate commission (at no cost to you). Drew Ramsey, MD, author of Healing the Modern Brain Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, July 14, 2025, after broadcast on July 12. In this week’s podcast, Dr. Ramsey offers further discussion of the idea of finding your purpose and how to do that even after retirement. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free, or you can find it on your favorite platform. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 7min

Show 1330: Rethinking Hypothyroidism (Archive)

In this week’s episode, our guest explains why treating hypothyroidism isn’t always as simple as it seems. He is a leading researcher on questions relating to thyroid hormones. What Is Hypothyroidism? Hypothyroidism, a condition in which the thyroid gland doesn’t make enough thyroid hormone, is one of the most common hormonal disorders. It was first identified near the end of the 19th century but is far more widely recognized now. More than 20 million Americans produce too little thyroid hormone for their needs, either because their thyroid glands have been removed or because they are under attack from the immune system. Inadequate thyroid hormone has an impact on every cell in the body. As a result, the symptoms are wide-ranging, from lethargy and cognitive troubles to hair loss and constipation. Why Should We Be Rethinking Hypothyroidism? Most medical students learn that this is a simple straightforward condition to diagnose and treat. For decades, doctors used a single test–the TSH, or thyroid-stimulating hormone–for diagnosis. In addition, they learn that a single medication, the hormone called levothyroxine, is the sole treatment. People may know levothyroxine by its brand names, such as Synthroid or Levoxyl. Doctors often refer to it as T4, because the molecule contains four atoms of iodine. Not everyone knows that T4 itself is not biologically active. Enzymes within the cells must remove one of those iodine atoms to create the active hormone, T3. You might recognize it by its generic name, liothyronine, or by the brand name Cytomel. What’s Wrong with Levothyroxine Only? Back in 1970, researchers discovered the enzymes that convert T4 to T3. That’s when doctors decided that patients would do well on a simple synthetic form of T4. In fact, 80 to 85 percent of patients with hypothyroidism have no great difficulties with this treatment. However, about 15 to 20 percent continue to suffer despite treatment. Some feel infuriated when the doctor tells them that their normal TSH levels mean they are fine. They don’t feel fine. They still feel exhausted, confused and miserable. Researchers, including our guest, have begun to recognize that people who do not convert T4 to T3 efficiently may suffer from residual symptoms of hypothyroidism. How Should We Be Rethinking Hypothyroidism? Lingering symptoms of hypothyroidism, such as fatigue or brain fog, are not very specific. As a result, doctors may need to utilize more sophisticated testing techniques. Moreover, rethinking hypothyroidism means considering different forms of treatment. A person who has residual symptoms despite a normal TSH level might need a trial of combination therapy. This might be in the form of desiccated thyroid extract such as Armour or Westhroid. An alternative would be a prescription for both T4 (levothyroxine) and T3 (liothyronine) as combination therapy. Doctors making such a change to their prescription need to adjust the dose carefully so that the patient does not end up with too much thyroid hormone. They also need to make sure during the diagnostic workup that the problem truly is hypothyroidism. Symptoms such as low energy don’t go away with thyroid hormone treatment unless that is the underlying problem. What Should Patients Do? For too long, patients have heard that their residual symptoms are psychological in nature. A doctor might have insisted that a normalized TSH on treatment means nothing is wrong with the thyroid gland. People who still feel bad despite such treatment may need to hunt for a clinician willing to explore ways to address those residual symptoms. This Week’s Guest: Antonio C. Bianco, MD, PhD, was professor of medicine and a member of the Committee on Molecular Metabolism and Nutrition at the University of Chicago at the time this episode first aired. He ran a laboratory funded by the National Institutes of Health to study thyroid hormones. Dr. Bianco is a former president of the American Thyroid Association and author of Rethinking Hypothyroidism: Why Treatment Must Change and What Patients Can Do. Twitter handle is @Bianco_Lab. The People’s Pharmacy is reader supported. When you buy through links in this post, we may earn a small affiliate commission (at no cost to you). Antonio Bianco, MD, PhD, is now The Nelda C and H.J Lutcher Stark Professor in internal medicine. VP, Vice-Provost for research and Chief research officer university of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, Texas. Antonio Bianco, MD, PhD, University of Chicago Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, July 7, 2025, after re-broadcast on July 5. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Jun 26, 2025 • 1h 13min

Show 1436: Why Mosquitoes Bite You and How to Outsmart Them

In this episode, Joe & Terry speak with two scientists studying mosquito preferences. Why are some people mosquito magnets while others barely get bitten? A range of factors influences mosquito behavior and may explain why mosquitoes bite you and leave your neighbor alone. Learn how to outsmart them. You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream on Saturday, June 28, 2025, at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org).  Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 30, 2025. Why We Worry About Mosquito Bites: You may think of mosquitoes as annoying insects with itchy bites. That’s certainly a reasonable summary in many places and times. But there are large swaths of the globe where mosquitoes carry deadly diseases. Malaria, for instance, kills an estimated 600,000 people a year. The majority of these victims are children under 5 years old living in sub-Saharan Africa. Even in the US, where malaria was eradicated in the mid-20th century, mosquitoes transmit some dangerous diseases, including dengue in some southern regions, West Nile virus, and in the northeast and the Gulf Coast, eastern equine encephalitis (EEE). The best prevention for these serious infections is to outsmart mosquitoes and avoid getting bitten. Depriving Mosquitoes of Breeding Grounds: One problem is that a few species of mosquito have evolved to live in close proximity to humans. They have adapted to breeding in standing water, but it doesn’t take much. An upturned bottle cap, a saucer under a potted plant or leaves lying on the ground can all offer mosquito breeding opportunities. Emptying those saucers and raking away the leaves should be a priority to reduce the risk of mosquito bites. Do You Smell Delicious? Both our guests have been studying what makes some people more appealing than others. To that end, Dr. Conor McMeniman and his team have set up the world’s largest multiple-choice smell test for mosquitoes in Zambia. They constructed a mesh greenhouse the size of two tennis courts that could be surrounded by eight single-person tents. A person sleeps in each tent and that person’s scent is wafted into the enclosure where mosquitoes are given a chance to congregate where the preferred scent appears. This scent buffet for mosquitoes demonstrated that microbial metabolites from our skin microbiome have a significant impact on insect behavior. Mosquitoes seem to home in on short chain carboxylic acids as well as acetoin. How Can We Outsmart Mosquitoes? One simple and obvious step to avoid mosquito bites is to use window screens on our homes. That helps protect us inside. Air conditioning and ceiling fans also help. We asked Dr. McMeniman how he protects himself when he is outside and what we should do. He recommends repellents. DEET is the gold standard, but some people find it unpleasant. An effective alternative repellent is derived from plants. Whether you use oil of lemon eucalyptus or DEET, it is important to read the instructions for applying the product properly. How Do Mosquitoes Change Their Behavior? In addition to smell, mosquitoes also use vision and temperature sensing to find humans to bite. (Did you know mosquitoes sing to each other? It is part of their courtship behavior.) Dr. Clément Vinauger studies how mosquito brains react during different activities. They also pay attention to people who swat them and seem to avoid those individuals who come close to killing them. Mosquitoes can also change their behavior to adapt to human behavior. For example, a species of Anopheles mosquito that was nocturnal shifted to early morning biting over a period of a few years. That happened after the human population started using effective bed nets that protected them during sleep. More on How to Outsmart Mosquitoes: Dr. Vinauger made a casual observation that some soaps seemed to attract mosquitoes while others repel them. In a study, he found that most of the soaps his team examined appealed to mosquitoes. On the other hand, coconut scented soap (Native brand tested) kept them away. We asked him about Listerine. He has not studied it, nor has he studied some remedies that our listeners like such as eating garlic. However, he suggested consulting the local gardening center or nursery in selecting plantings around the home that are not attractive to mosquitoes. This Week’s Guests: Conor McMeniman, PhD, is Associate Professor of Molecular Microbiology & Immunology at the Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute. Dr. McMeniman studies the molecular and cellular basis of mosquito attraction to humans. Conor McMeniman, PhD, Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute Clément Vinauger, PhD, is Associate Professor at Virginia Tech in the Department of Biochemistry. His research area is the molecular genetics of host-seeking behavior in insects. His website is:  https://www.vinaugerlab.com/ Clément Vinauger, PhD, Virginia Tech Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, June 30, 2025, after broadcast on June 28. This week’s episode features bonus material, including exclusive content we couldn’t fit into the radio broadcast. In this week’s podcast bonus material, Dr. McMeniman explains why it would be really difficult to conduct a scientific study on whether taking vitamin B1 reduces your attractiveness to mosquitoes. We also discuss how climate change is likely to put Americans at greater risk for mosquito-borne diseases. Could malaria become a problem in the US once again? And we talk about “skeeter syndrome” in people who get nasty allergic reactions to mosquito bites. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free, or you can find it on your favorite platform. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Jun 19, 2025 • 58min

Show 1435: Beyond Companionship: A Veterinarian’s Take on the Pet-Human Health Connection

This week, our guest in the studio is veterinarian Dr. Chuck Miller. You can call in your stories and questions about the animals in your life between 7 and 8 am EDT on Saturday, June 21, 2025, at 888-472-3366. Or you can send us email: radio@peoplespharmacy.com. We’ll be focusing on transforming relationships between humans and animals. Have you ever had to euthanize a beloved pet? We would like to hear your story. What was it like to lose such a close companion? You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org).  Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 23, 2025. One Health: You may have already thought about One Health without realizing it has a name. This is an interdisciplinary approach to promoting the health of animals as well as humans that share an environment. If you have companion animals that move between inside and outside, your already know that protecting them from ticks and fleas also offers you a measure of protection. Another example of the importance of this approach would be control of bird flu. So far, we have paid it relatively little attention as it spread through cattle herds and to cats and other animals. If we learned more about its behavior in other animals, might we be able to reduce the impact on humans? How Do Pets Promote Human Health? Not long ago, a friend shared a blog post she had written about the death of her chicken. The bird had reached the end of its natural lifespan, and the memorial essay was an appreciation of its special spunky personality. Probably few people who interact with animals on a regular basis can keep from noticing that each one, whether it is a chicken, a cat, a mouse or a hedgehog, has its own particular take on the business of living. That observation in itself helps make our lives richer. Quite a bit of research has shown that having a pet present can help alleviate anxiety and lower blood pressure. One study examined the impact of therapy dogs on children’s anxiety in the emergency department (JAMA Network Open, March 3, 2025). Children interacting with a therapy dog and its handler for 10 minutes in the ER had less anxiety than those whose emergency visits were dogless. Young children aren’t the only ones to respond well to dogs. A study in Thailand introduced well-socialized dogs to 122 university students feeling stressed out (PLoS One, March 12, 2025). Students’ self-reported stress, pulse rate and salivary cortisol (a stress hormone) all dropped during and after interacting with the dogs for 15 minutes. Does Lifespan Difference Cause Trouble? A dear friend just sent us a very sad email. His golden retriever Abby just died after 13 joyful years together with him and his wife. Moreover, he noted, there will not be another dog in their family because they are both getting on in years. Adopting a dog that outlives you doesn’t seem fair to the dog. When a pet dies first, the owner grieves. But if an owner dies first, someone must find the animal a new home. How do we do that? How many people make contingency plans for a surviving pet? Should we? What about grieving animals? Here we’d like to put in a recommendation for a beautiful movie, The Friend. The dog star is magnificent, and the humans are pretty great, too. Call in Your Stories about Relationships Between Humans and Animals: Dr. Chuck Miller will be in our studio to answer your questions and hear your stories about transforming relationships between humans and animals from 7 to 8 am EDT on Saturday, June 21, 2025. Give us a call to share your story or learn what you can about that bond: 888-472-3366 or email us: radio@peoplespharmacy.com This Week’s Guest: Charles Miller, DVT is the owner of Triangle Veterinary Hospital in Durham, North. Carolina. Dr. Miller has been serving the pets and animal owners of the area for 32 years. You may wish to listen to our previous episode with Dr. Miller. It was Show 1379: The Healing Power of Pets. https://trianglevet.com/ Charles Miller, DVM Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, June 23, 2025, after broadcast on June 21. You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Jun 12, 2025 • 1h 10min

Show 1434: Digital Doctoring: Will AI Save Lives or Cause Medical Mayhem?

In this episode, Joe & Terry speak with two physicians who have examined ways that artificial intelligence might contribute to patient care. Can AI help with better diagnoses? Is robotic surgery better? Could AI save lives or is it more likely to cause trouble? You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream on Saturday, June 14, 2025, at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org).  Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 16, 2025. Digital Doctoring: We begin our conversation with Dr. Jonathan Chen, who has found that chatting with a robot made him a better doctor. (He challenged ChatGPT with an ethically difficult conversation and was surprised at the sensitivity of the observations it offered.) When researchers studied diagnostic acumen pitting human doctors against AI, the results were surprising. Some doctors did the diagnosis without help, while others used ChatGPT-4 to help them. The investigators also had the AI do the diagnosis unaided (or unhindered) by humans. Doctors got a score of 74 percent on their own and 76 percent when using AI. But ChatGPT by itself scored 90 percent. (JAMA Network Open, Oct. 28, 2024). AI is certainly not perfect, and there are times when it is not the appropriate tool to use. But results like this suggest that we should be learning more about when it might be an indispensable technology for improving patient care. After all, human doctors are not perfect, either. Paging Doctor Google: Health care professionals are not the only ones who are putting artificial intelligence to use in health care settings. Many physicians dread the patient who arrives with a large stack of papers printed off the internet. Our guests suggest that doctors should welcome these patients and collaborate with them. Pointing them to more reliable sites and better search strategies, if the healthcare provider is able to do so, could yield better results overall. Who is more motivated to spend time researching the details of an unusual syndrome or its treatment? It may well be the patient. There are, of course, some cautions that people should keep in mind. One is privacy. You may not want to disclose your medical history to the internet at large. Most sites are not constrained by HIPAA, which protects patient privacy in medical settings. Another consideration is the reliability of the information you find. Robots are designed to produce answers that will please the humans asking the questions. That might mean that they make things up. If the question is how to connect your camera to your computer, an invented (“hallucinated”) answer is inconvenient. When it concerns your health, a fabricated answer could be dangerous. Could AI Save Lives in Dermatology? Our second guest, Dr. Art Papier, has been involved in developing large libraries of images of skin problems. With artificial intelligence powering it, VisualDx helps doctors recognize dermatological problems such as skin cancers. He describes one situation in which misdiagnosis is common and can cause harm. Cellulitis is a dangerous inflammation due to bacterial infection that can lead to sepsis. Red skin can be a signal of cellulitis, but sometimes it is caused by other problems. Misdiagnosis can lead to hospitalization and inappropriate antibiotics being administered. Utilizing a clinical decision tool like VisualDx reduced unnecessary hospital admission and antibiotic use (Journal of the American College of Emergency Physicians Open, June 8, 2023). Another strength of the system Dr. Papier has helped build is that it offers doctors views of atypical presentations of common problems. Hopefully, this keeps them from focusing on a single feature of an illness, such as a bulls-eye rash, as the only defining characteristic. The builders of VisualDx have deliberately included many images of skin of many different shades, as rashes sometimes look different depending upon the background coloration. Both our guests emphasize that AI is a tool. To get the best results, it must be used intelligently, not indiscriminately. This Week’s Guests: Jonathan Chen, MD, PhD, assistant professor of medicine at Stanford Medicine, works at the intersection of artificial intelligence and medicine in the hopes that combining human knowledge with AI will deliver better care than either can alone. His expertise lies in developing innovative AI-driven solutions that enhance diagnostic accuracy, treatment efficiency, and patient outcomes. Dr. Chen focuses on integrating machine learning algorithms and predictive modeling into clinical practice, revolutionizing the way healthcare is delivered. His goal is to use real-world clinical data, such as electronic medical records, with machine learning and data analytics to reveal new clinical insights that will inform patient care. Jonathan Chen, MD, PhD, Stanford Medicine Art Papier, MD, is a dermatologist and medical informatics expert and the co-founder and CEO of VisualDx. He has led the development of VisualDx, a professional, point of care decision support system as well as Aysa, a freely available consumer and patient facing AI app for dermatology (www.askaysa.com). A thought leader in clinical informatics, Dr. Papier maintains the overall vision for the company with a keen focus on product integration and impacting costs in healthcare through clinical accuracy. https://www.visualdx.com/blog/our-team/art-papier/ Dr. Art Papier is founder & CEO of VisualDx Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, June 16, 2025, after broadcast on June 14. In this week’s podcast, Dr. Chen describes the effort by Dr. David Fajgenbaum to use AI to search the medical literature and find potential treatments for rare diseases. Dr. Papier discusses the use of AI to reduce the chance of misdiagnosis. How should patients and doctors negotiate the use of AI? You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free, or you can find it on your favorite platform. Download the mp3, or listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Jun 5, 2025 • 1h 9min

Show 1433: What Are the Hidden Dangers in the Air We Breathe?

In this episode, our guest, award-winning science journalist Carl Zimmer, describes the hidden dangers in the air we breathe. He begins with the concept of the aerobiome–the collection of living things from ground level to the stratosphere. While that includes eagles and dragonflies, the most insidious inhabitants are those we can’t see. Often, we are totally unaware of their presence. Yet bacteria like the one that causes tuberculosis or viruses like those that cause COVID or flu have the power to make us ill even if we don’t know they are there. You could listen through your local public radio station or get the live stream on Saturday, June 7, 2025, at 7 am EDT on your computer or smart phone (wunc.org).  Here is a link so you can find which stations carry our broadcast. If you can’t listen to the broadcast, you may wish to hear the podcast later. You can subscribe through your favorite podcast provider, download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of the page, or listen to the stream on this post starting on June 9, 2025. Hidden Dangers in the Air We Breathe: You have surely heard of the microbiome, but perhaps you thought it only applied to the microscopic beings living in our digestive tract. Lately, scientists have learned that humans have a microbiome for every different part of our bodies, including our eyes, ears, mouth and lungs. The air around us is also full of microorganisms. And even though we can’t see them and we may not be able to smell or taste them, they can still have a big impact on our health. What are the hidden dangers in the air we breathe? Florence Nightingale and the Science of Ventilation: Back in the mid-19th century, Florence Nightingale insisted that fresh air and sunlight were essential for patients to recover. Even though she didn’t know the scientific reason for this, her observation was correct. Good ventilation can help lessen the risk of disease transmission. But infectious disease specialists were not paying much attention to air quality until COVID-19 came along. At the beginning of the pandemic, health experts actually resisted the idea that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID, could be airborne. Public health authorities stressed the importance of hand washing, social distancing and disinfecting doorknobs, groceries or other items that someone else might have touched. Those turned out to be of much less significance than the dangers in the air we breathe. The Skagit Valley Chorale Superspreader Event: In the spring of 2020, the Skagit Valley Chorale got together to rehearse for an upcoming concert. There were about 60 singers who took the advised precautions: social distancing and hand sanitizing. The room in which they rehearsed was poorly ventilated, and no one was wearing a mask. This was at a time when the CDC was urging Americans NOT to wear masks, for fear there wouldn’t be enough for healthcare workers. Within a few days, six of the singers were sick. Eventually, 52 of them came down with COVID from this single exposure. Two women died. The Skagit Valley Chorale provided an irrefutable example that the virus could be airborne. Have We Learned the Lessons of COVID-19? If we learned the lessons we should take from the pandemic, we will be on the lookout for other hidden dangers in the air we breathe. We know that measles is incredibly transmissible and that the measles virus is airborne. In areas where measles is spreading, people would be smart to wear effective masks, such as N95, in public. Unfortunately, masks have been politicized, although viruses do not care. Another pathogen that spreads through the air is tuberculosis. Americans don’t think of this as an important problem, but drug-resistant TB is a world-wide threat. Approximately one-fourth of humans carry this pathogen. It can become active whenever stress or other problems knock the immune system down. Many other countries responded differently to the pandemic. Perhaps some will improve the ventilation and filtration in public spaces. That is unlikely in most parts of the US, due to cost. Perhaps we should take to carrying carbon dioxide monitors wherever we go. That will not tell us if there are hidden dangers in the air, but it will indicate how many people have been breathing it. This Week’s Guest: Carl Zimmer writes the “Origins” column for the New York Times and has frequently contributed to the Atlantic, National Geographic, Time, and Scientific American. His journalism has earned numerous awards, including ones from the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Academies of Science, Medicine, and Engineering. Carl Zimmer is an adjunct professor at Yale, where he teaches writing. He is the author of fourteen books about science, including Life’s Edge. His most recent book is Air-Borne: The Hidden History of the Life We Breathe. The People’s Pharmacy is reader supported. When you buy through links in this post, we may earn a small affiliate commission (at no cost to you). Car Zimmer. Photo credit Mistina Hanscom Listen to the Podcast: The podcast of this program will be available Monday, June 9, 2025, after broadcast on June 7. In this week’s podcast, we discuss the value of CO2 monitors as well as the potential effectiveness of ultraviolet light for purifying the air. Could UV be a helpful part of our toolchest? Might there actually be benefits to breathing in certain microorganisms, similar to the probiotics you might take for gut health? You can stream the show from this site and download the podcast for free, or you can find it on your favorite platform. 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