
On Tax
On Tax brings together professionals in the Cravath network for conversations about their life and work in the world of tax. Hosted by Cravath partner Len Teti, the show focuses on the often-forgotten human side of tax, highlighting the people, connections and stories that make the space such a fascinating and dynamic area of practice. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast. Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP is a premier U.S. law firm that has been at the center of many of the world’s most significant transactions and disputes for more than two centuries. Learn more about the Firm at cravath.com, and explore its bicentennial at 200.cravath.com. (On Tax is intended for informational and educational purposes only, and does not establish an attorney-client relationship between any person or entity and Cravath.) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Mar 8, 2024 • 1min
Welcome to Season 7 of On Tax
On Tax returns for Season 7 on Tuesday, March 12. This season, tune in as Cravath partner and podcast host Len Teti talks to professionals in the world of tax about their varied careers and the decisions they made along the way. Next week’s guest is Cravath executive compensation and benefits partner Amanda Gold, who discusses beginning her legal career in Arizona and her decision to move to New York to join Cravath. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 19, 2023 • 29min
Lewis Steinberg formerly of BofA Securities
Lewis Steinberg recently retired as Head of Structured Solutions in the Global Corporate and Investment Bank of BofA Securities. He began his career as a tax associate at Cravath and later became a partner. In the Season 6 finale of On Tax, he and Cravath partner and host Len Teti talk about how trends in the industry and Lew’s interest in structuring M&A transactions led him to work in investment banking. Based on his decades of experience as both outside counsel and as a consumer of tax advice, Lew reflects on what the best tax practitioners do well and the ideal relationship between advisors and their clients. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 5, 2023 • 21min
Ocka Stumm of Gleiss Lutz
Ocka Stumm is a tax partner at Gleiss Lutz in Frankfurt, specializing in transactional matters and tax litigation. In this discussion, she shares insights on the striking differences between the legal systems in the U.S. and Germany. Ocka also delves into her transformative experience as a secondee at Cravath, highlighting the importance of collaboration and mentorship in law. The conversation shifts to the art of negotiation, comparing transactional approaches to litigation, and ends with a light-hearted chat about hobbies and family activities.

Nov 14, 2023 • 22min
David Ware of Bausch + Lomb
David Ware is the Vice President, Tax at Bausch + Lomb. In this episode of On Tax, he and Cravath partner and host Len Teti talk about how his early interest in accounting led him to become a tax associate at Cravath. They also discuss his path to his current position as the head of tax at a publicly traded company, a role in which tax accounting is critical. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 24, 2023 • 29min
Michael Stanton of Peloton
Michael Stanton, Corporate Treasurer and Global Head of Tax & Treasury at Peloton, shares insights from his journey in finance and tax law. He discusses how the financial crisis shaped his career path and the importance of collaboration between legal and tax teams. Stanton emphasizes the role of mentorship in his transitions and how failures can drive innovation. He also highlights the integration of tax and treasury for enhancing corporate value and opens up about his hobbies, including biking and supporting his kids' sports.

Oct 3, 2023 • 31min
Rachel Kiwi of Audible
Rachel Kiwi, Corporate Counsel at Audible, shares her journey from her passion for theater to a career in entertainment law. She reflects on her transformative experiences from Cravath’s Tax Department to original productions. Kiwi discusses the complexities of navigating legal issues in nonfiction audio projects and the importance of mentorship in her development. Additionally, she shares her loves for singing in a New York choir and travel, illustrating how creativity intersects with her professional life.

Sep 12, 2023 • 27min
Jon Katz of Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
Jon Katz, a partner in the Executive Compensation and Benefits Department at Cravath, shares his journey from tax associate to leading compensation advisor. He reflects on the unexpected turn that led him to his current focus. Katz emphasizes the rising importance of executive compensation in M&A, highlighting the complex challenges that come with it. He also offers insights on mentorship, adaptability in legal careers, and the blend of work-life balance with his passion for sports, particularly as a Mets fan.

Sep 5, 2023 • 1min
Welcome to Season 6 of On Tax
On Tax returns for Season 6 on Tuesday, September 12. This season, tune in as Cravath partner and podcast host Len Teti talks to professionals in the world of tax about their varied careers and the decisions they made along the way. Next week’s guest is Cravath partner Jon Katz, who discusses his start as a tax associate at the Firm and the transition to his current practice in the Executive Compensation and Benefits Department. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 27, 2023 • 25min
Joseph Bertucci of Digital Realty
Joseph Bertucci, Senior Vice President and Global Head of Tax at Digital Realty, shares his remarkable journey from Texas to Italy and back. He reflects on his transformative experiences at Enron and GE, emphasizing the importance of career management and seizing international opportunities. The conversation shifts to the art of simplifying tax concepts for non-professionals, empowering leaders to make informed decisions. Lastly, Joseph discusses building high-performing tax teams and the strategies behind effective leadership in the corporate world.

Jun 6, 2023 • 41min
Robert Wellen formerly of the IRS
Robert Wellen, former Associate Chief Counsel (Corporate) at the IRS, shares his journey from studying English to a career in tax law. He discusses the blend of creativity and analytical skills required to navigate the complexities of the Internal Revenue Code. Wellen offers fascinating insights into private letter rulings, corporate tax guidance, and the unique challenges faced by IRS legal counsel. He reflects on the importance of personal relationships in career development and shares anecdotes from his decade-long tenure at the IRS.