
The Herle Burly
The Herle Burly podcast is a commotion of insights, arguments, opinions, and an impossibly loud laugh or two, hosted by David Herle.
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Mar 20, 2025 • 1h 19min
Pre-Election Pollster Panel: Paradis, Coletto, and Graves
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail. Alright, greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! As we record this podcast, we are either on the eve of a federal election, or, on the eve of the eve of a federal election as just about everybody expects Prime Minister Carney to call it in a matter of days.Poll watchers know that Mr. Carney seems to have resurrected this dangerous and ephemeral thing called HOPE, for the Liberal Party. The numbers over the last 10 days seem to indicate that Canadians lean to Carney in an election seen as “Who can best protect Canada and our economy in a Triple-T world ... Trump, Trade and Tariffs.”But I want to do a deeper probe of the data and situation today. What exactly is the current state of play? How solid is this new Liberal support? How are Carney and Poilievre both currently positioned? And what room is there for other issues to creep into the narrative?I’ve assembled a crack Pollster Panel to have that conversation: David Coletto, Sylvie Paradis, and Frank Graves.David is Founder, Chair and CEO of Abacus Data and is one of Canada’s best known public opinion analysts and social researchers.Sylvie is a noted Quebec-based pollster where she’s served as poller, data modeler and forecaster for the QLP for 13 years, and was national co-chair of the 2019 Trudeau campaign for Quebec.And Frank, the famous (or maybe infamous) “Voice of Franky”, is the Founder and President of EKOS Research Associates, and one of this country’s leading applied social researchers.Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.

Mar 14, 2025 • 1h 8min
Election Readiness: Jennifer Howard, NDP National Campaign Director
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail. Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! The federal election winds are blowing strong with Mark Carney being sworn in as Prime Minister and an expected election soon. So, an election readiness pod for you today. Centred around NOT the Liberals or Conservatives, but rather, the NDP. Jennifer Howard, National Campaign Director for the NDP, joins us.Proud prairie girl, Manitoba born and raised, Jennifer served as a cabinet minister in successful NDP governments in that province. She has served as Chief of Staff for Jagmeet Singh since 2018 and helmed the last 2 federal elections as Campaign Director. So, there’s nobody better placed to talk about where NDP fortunes currently reside and how they intend to move forward during the writ.This is going to be a frank conversation. How is the party responding to declining poll numbers? There are leadership questions as Mr. Singh’s own numbers are sagging. We’ll talk about those challenges, and also, the opportunities for the NDP to shape the fight ahead, in an election context unlike any other.Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.

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Mar 6, 2025 • 1h 2min
Kory Teneycke, Doug Ford's 2025 Three-peat Campaign Director
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail and the Ontario Real Estate Association.Greetings you curious, you courageous Herle Burly-ites! I want you to cast your mind back 5 or 6 years. Doug Ford, 1st term Premier of Ontario, had popularity numbers that, if they weren’t all time lows, were lower than the voice of the great Johnny Cash, after a weeklong bourbon bender. Today, Mr. Ford is celebrating his 3rd straight majority government, increasing his seat totals each time out. 3 straight majorities is a political feat that hasn’t been accomplished in Ontario in almost 70 years. The chief strategic architect of that turnaround and subsequent history-making success is our guest today on the pod, Kory Teneycke.Most of you listeners know Kory from his seat on the Curse of Politics political panel, where he gives as good a soundbite as he gets with me, Scott and Jordan.Today I want to have a deeper, more detailed conversation into the just finished Ontario election. We’ll get right into the weeds of the strategies ... from Willowdale to Windsor ... Northumberland to Niagara ... Mississauga to Mushkegowuk ... and all points in between.Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.

Feb 28, 2025 • 1h 11min
Jennifer Welsh: End of the Old World Order (and how the West is fracturing)
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail.Greetings, you curiouser, and right now anxiouser, Herle Burly-ites. We’re following up last week’s pod with Andrew Coyne, with another nerve-jangling conversation about the 24/7 norm-wrecking of Donald J. Trump.This one, leaning into how he’s shifting global relationships and alliances, here in Canada and across Europe ... resulting in ... oh, you know ... maybe just a whole new world order, that’s all.3-time Herle Burly guest, the brilliant Jennifer Welsh is here to talk about that. Jennifer’s episodes are always among our most listened-to. She hails from Regina like me, but our CVs take very separate paths from there. Jennifer is a Rhodes Scholar, earning her Master and Doctorate in International Relations at Oxford. She co-founded the Oxford Institute for Ethics, Law and Armed Conflict. Served as Professor and Chair of International Relations at the European University Institute in Florence. She was a Special Adviser to Ban Ki-moon – the UN Secretary General – on the Responsibility to Protect. And she’s currently the Canada 150 Research Chair in Global Governance and Security at McGill University.Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.

Feb 20, 2025 • 1h 6min
Unleashed: Andrew Coyne on Canada, the US, and the World
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail.Alright, this is a perfect episode for you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. And it’s also a perfect episode for you anxiouser and anxiouser Herle Burly-ites. The 2 adjectives aren’t mutually exclusive, not at all.In fact, when you consider what’s happening in the world, on almost a minute-by-minute basis – the shifting power dynamics, the destruction of alliances and trading relationships, the obliteration of norms – highly curious and massively anxiety-provoking are descriptors that go together pretty well.We have the perfect guest to talk about it all. If you’ve been reading the great columnist, Andrew Coyne, either in The Globe and Mail or on Twitter, you know he’s been frank in his calling out of Trump and his alliance with Putin , as well as his observations about what’s at stake for Europe, Ukraine and Canada. We’re going to dive into all of that today. He's always unfiltered, but for the next hour, consider this Andrew unleashed.Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.

Feb 15, 2025 • 1h 7min
Big Tech & Business in Politics with David Skok
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail.Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites. We have a great show teed up for you today. It’s not an American topic, because it’s broader than that (which we’ll get to in a minute) but if you watched Trump’s inauguration, you couldn’t help but notice all the “tech-bro billionaires” seated on the dais, in their places of honour, flanking the incoming President. Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Cook.So, I want to have a conversation about this growing influence of big tech and business... on our government, our politics ... and how they view journalism and media today.I couldn’t have a better guest to do that with: David Skok! David is the founder, CEO and Editor-in-Chief of the very excellent “The Logic”, Canada’s Business and Tech Newsroom. Prior to that, he was the associate editor and head of editorial strategy at The Toronto Star. And the managing editor and vice-president of digital for The Boston Globe.And, there’s a Canadian context for all of this is: Tobi Lütke, founder of Shopify, is part of a group of tech entrepreneurs who have just launched a new platform called “Build Canada”, an effort to influence government policy on issues like immigration, healthcare and so on.Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.

Feb 9, 2025 • 1h 5min
Cybersecurity and Cyber Espionage with Ron Deibert
Ron Deibert, a political science professor and founder of Citizen Lab, dives deep into the world of cybersecurity and cyber espionage. He discusses the chilling connections between advanced surveillance and human rights violations, spotlighting cases like those of Omar Abdulaziz and Jamal Khashoggi. Ron shares insights on smartphone vulnerabilities, the ethics of surveillance technology in authoritarian regimes, and the critical oversight needed in intelligence practices. His new book, "Chasing Shadows," reveals the gripping tales behind cyber espionage, blending storytelling with urgent analysis.

Feb 2, 2025 • 1h 9min
Karina Gould, Liberal Party of Canada Leadership Candidate
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail, and TikTok Canada.Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! We’re diving right into the Liberal Leadership Race today with former Government House Leader, and current candidate for Leader of the Party, Karina Gould.What is her vision for the Liberal Party as leader? Why is she running? What does she bring to the race? What’s different about her candidacy from the other contenders? Why is she best placed to beat Poilievre?Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.

Jan 26, 2025 • 1h 6min
A Better Way on Trump, Tariffs, and Trade with Trevor Tombe
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail, and TikTok Canada.Alright you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! So, we’re recording this one on Saturday, January 25th, which means it’s “TD minus 7” ... TARIFF DAY minus 7.Canadian leaders have been consumed with how to respond. Taxing or restricting our oil and gas to the U.S., has been suggested, and debated fiercely. Writing last week in The Hub, our guest today says that “makes little economic sense”. He has, what he says, is a “better idea”. Truth-telling economist Trevor Tombe joins us. Trevor is based out west, he’s a Professor of Economics at the University of Calgary, and the Director of Fiscal and Economic Policy at The School of Public Policy. His research explores a broad set of topics, including international trade, public finances and fiscal federalism. He’s a regular contributor to the very excellent “The Hub.ca” and comments widely on the economy across various media.So, it’s “Trade and Tariffs Day” today on the pod. What the hell is about to happen to the Canadian economy? What’s going to hurt? And how can we help ourselves?Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.

Jan 19, 2025 • 1h 10min
Former Premier Kathleen Wynne on tariffs, Ontario, and Liberal leadership
The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail, and Fidelity.Alright you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! One of my all-time favourite guests on the pod today, likely because she’s one of my all- time favourite people. Kathleen Wynne, 25th Premier of Ontario is here. If you’re a fan of the Air Quotes Media online universe at AirQuotesMedia.com, you also know that Kathleen is a regular contributor to “Quotes”, our written forum of opinion pieces. In fact, just last month, she wrote a metaphoric thought piece titled “In the Bleak Midwinter”. It came in the immediate wake of Chrystia Freeland’s resignation. It pondered what comes next for the Federal Liberal Party. And it called for unity of purpose – not partisanship – as we head into a new and likely contentious relationship with our southern neighbours.All topics we’re going to expand on here today. Plus a few others, I’m sure.Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.