
Thinkers & Ideas
Inspiring and thought-provoking conversations with leading thinkers about influential ideas on business, technology, economics, and science. Hosted by Martin Reeves, Chairman of the BCG Henderson Institute, and Philipp Carlsson-Szlezak, Global Chief Economist of BCG.
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Latest episodes

Dec 14, 2023 • 35min
Permacrisis with Mohamed El-Erian and Michael Spence
In Permacrisis: A Plan to Fix a Fractured World, Mohamed El-Erian and Michael Spence, along with their coauthors, Gordon Brown and Reid Lidow, consider how we’ve arrived at this state of constant instability and insecurity—and suggest concrete ways to break the cycle.Mohamed El-Erian, president of Queens’ College Cambridge University, was previously the chair of President Obama’s Global Development Council, a Deputy Director at the International Monetary Fund, and CEO and co-CIO of PIMCO.Michael Spence, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Philip H. Knight Professor and dean, emeritus, at Stanford Graduate School of Business, was awarded the 2001 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences.Together with Martin Reeves, the Chairman of the BCG Henderson Institute, El-Erian and Spence discuss new approaches to thinking about growth, economic management, and managing a global order, as well as how leaders could unlock the full potential of technologies that could drive growth, and ensure that the benefits of technological advancements, like AI, are widely distributed to avoid exacerbating national tensions.Key topics discussed: 01:59 | Defining permacrisis08:58 | The essence of how we need to think differently about growth and value10:32 | Unlocking the full potential of technologies that could drive growth14:09 | How to ensure that the benefits of technological advancements, like AI, are widely distributed to avoid exacerbating national tensions19:40 | Anticipating or managing similar crises (COVID-19) in the future25:15 | Reforming multilateral institutions

Dec 11, 2023 • 29min
The Worlds I See with Dr. Fei-Fei Li
Dr. Fei-Fei Li, a leading AI expert and former Google scientist, shares her journey from immigrating to the U.S. at 15 to becoming a pivotal figure in artificial intelligence. She discusses the evolution of AI, highlighting breakthroughs from Alan Turing to modern advancements like ChatGPT. Li emphasizes the ethical implications of AI, urging businesses to navigate bias and privacy concerns responsibly. She also explores how AI can create competitive advantages and the need for educational reforms to prepare future generations for an AI-driven world.

Nov 28, 2023 • 28min
The Secret of Culture Change with Jay Barney
Jay Barney, a professor of strategic management, discusses the power of stories in changing organizational culture. Topics include defining culture, successful culture change examples, characteristics of culture-changing stories, navigating culture wars, and applying stories and culture change in a business school setting.

Nov 14, 2023 • 27min
The Geek Way with Andrew McAfee
Andrew McAfee, expert on how technological progress changes the world, discusses the 'geek way' of corporate culture based on science, ownership, speed, and openness. They explore the core tenets of the 'geek way', how it can be applied to any business, and overcoming its limitations. They also discuss the role of strategy, the uniqueness of the 'geek way', and recommend Andrew McAfee's book on the subject.

Nov 7, 2023 • 24min
Head & Heart with Dr. Kirstin Ferguson
In Head & Heart: The Art of Modern Leadership, Dr. Kirstin Ferguson provides a practical guide to balancing the rational and emotional components of leadership.Ferguson is an expert on leadership, an experienced leader in the private and public sectors, and a longtime advocate of gender equity. In her new book, she identifies the key attributes of a “head and heart” leader, providing people with the tools to reflect on and adapt their own approach to each situation. She combines vivid stories and extensive research to inspire her readers to become better, more authentic, modern leaders.Together with Martin Reeves, Chairman of BCG Henderson Institute, Ferguson discusses the evolution of leadership thinking, what makes a “head and heart” leader, and how leaders can improve their effectiveness and adaptability. They also reflect on how leadership, and particularly the “heart” attributes, will be more crucial than ever with the rise of AI in the workplace.Key topics discussed:02:36 | How has thinking on leadership evolved?06:05 | What are the attributes of a “head and heart” leader?08:25 | How can you improve your “head and heart” leadership attributes?18:24 | Are leaders aging, and is there a need to make space for younger talents?20:05 | How might AI change the art of leadership?Additional inspirations from Dr. Kirstin Ferguson:Certain Uncertainty: Leading with Agility and Resilience in an Unpredictable World (Wiley, 2023)Women Kind: Unlocking the Power of Women Supporting Women (Murdoch Books, 2019)Got a Minute? (Weekly column, The Sydney Morning Herald)

Oct 24, 2023 • 29min
How to Work with (Almost) Anyone with Michael Bungay Stanier
In How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, Michael Bungay Stanier outlines how to set up working relationships for the best chance of success—by following a process of thorough preparation, a keystone conversation, and regular maintenance.Bungay Stanier, founder of coaching firm Box of Crayons, is a world-renowned thought leader on coaching and author of the best-selling coaching book, The Coaching Habit. In his most recent book, he focuses on relationship-building, providing readers with processes and principles, as well as exercises and ample practical advice to sharpen their skills.Together with Martin Reeves, Chairman of the BCG Henderson Institute, Bungay Stanier discusses how to build the “best possible relationship” and how to maintain and repair it over time. Moreover, they assess how to create a corporate culture conducive to these relationships, and how to make these relationships work in a hybrid or remote setting.Key topics discussed:01:22 | How to make difficult relationships more workable03:39 | Definition of a “best possible relationship” and how to build it05:54 | How to have a keystone conversation12:26 | The impact of corporate culture and different personality types15:44 | How to maintain and repair relationships20:42 | The implications of hybrid and remote work22:31 | How leaders can apply these lessons in their organizations

Oct 10, 2023 • 29min
Big Bets with Rajiv Shah
Rajiv Shah, President of the Rockefeller Foundation, discusses his impactful journey in driving large-scale social change. He emphasizes adopting a 'big bets' mindset to tackle significant global issues like hunger and health crises. Shah highlights the power of public-private partnerships and the need for innovation through collaboration. He also stresses the necessity of including younger leaders in transformative initiatives and navigating the complexities of climate change and social justice through philanthropy for sustainable solutions.

Sep 19, 2023 • 26min
Mixed Signals with Uri Gneezy
In his new book, Mixed Signals: How Incentives Really Work, Uri Gneezy explains why leaders often create incentives that are misaligned with their organization’s goals.Gneezy, the Epstein/Atkinson Chair in Management Leadership at UC San Diego’s Rady School of Management, is one of the world’s leading experts in behavioral economics, and his insights have become a staple in courses around the world. He teaches managers how to be incentive-smart—how to avoid mixed signals and design incentives that are simple, effective, and ethical.Together with Martin Reeves, Chairman of BCG Henderson Institute, Gneezy discusses how incentives work, and how we can apply them in the workplace to change habits and spark innovation—he explains why, counterintuitively, successful organizations and initiatives may actually have a greater need to examine their incentives than unsuccessful ones.Key topics discussed:01:11 | How incentives send signals02:08 | Incentives in the workplace09:14 | Incentivizing innovation12:29 | Understanding the use and limitation of incentives18:22 | Changing habits

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Sep 5, 2023 • 29min
The Coming Wave with Mustafa Suleyman
Mustafa Suleyman, a renowned thought leader on AI and synthetic biology, discusses the threats and opportunities posed by these technologies, the competitive advantage they confer, potential regulatory interventions, and his motivations for writing the book.

Aug 29, 2023 • 24min
Right Kind of Wrong with Amy Edmondson
In her forthcoming book, Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well, Amy Edmondson offers a new framework to think about, discuss, and practice failure wisely, using human fallibility as a tool for making ourselves and our organizations smarter.Amy Edmondson is the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at the Harvard Business School and the author of seven books, including The Fearless Organization, which has been translated into more than 15 languages. She was ranked number one on the 2021 Thinkers50 list, a ranking of the world’s most influential management thinkers.Together with Martin Reeves, Chairman of the BCG Henderson Institute, Edmondson discusses the distinctions that can help us separate good failure from bad, strategies to decrease the cost of learning, as well as practical actions for leaders to establish a culture where intelligent failure is predominant.Key topics discussed: 1:13 | The distinction between failing well and failing badly9:36 | How to avoid the "illusion of knowing" and mistaking a mental model for a fact12:02 | Institutional and leadership-level moves to create an environment where intelligent failure is predominant18:27 | How to decrease the cost of learning19:42 | Can AI help to analyze the potential for failure or identify learnable lessons and failure patterns?