
Be Mythical
The Be Mythical podcast is a top 1.5% globally ranked show for old souls in this new world to be inspired, guided, and activated by deep, soul-stirring explorations with remarkable thinkers, wisdom keepers, visionaries, and healers about how to overcome the greatest challenge of your life… To become your unique medicine and actualise your own soul’s myth.
Old souls are the ones who came here in these crazy modern times to do vital work in service of Spirit and their communities… typically as spiritual practitioners, coaches, innovators, disruptors, healers, teachers, medicine people, and visionary leaders.
We’ve been running since 2014 so there are hundreds of mythical, magical, and mystical episodes to choose from that weave together ancient ways for modern days… shamanism, archetypal work, rewilding, embodiment, alchemy, psychedelics and plant medicine, astrology, non-dual spirituality, shadow work, and so much more.
In short, Be Mythical is the antidote for old souls struggling to find their way in this new world.
Listen now to join us for the mythical adventure that your soul has been calling you into.
Our love and blessings,
Lian & Jonathan
Latest episodes

Jul 5, 2016 • 53min
How to overcome the fear of loneliness. A Happy Hour Conversation with Lyric-Howard Jay Ginsberg
And this week's show is with Lyric-Howard Jay Ginsberg. Starting in the 1980s, Lyric has been developing his crazy off the wall programs, throwing out the common models and merging and weaving together in-depth and advanced personal fitness training, dietary training, emotional awareness, NLP, sexual and relationship communication and enhancement, and consciousness and Integral thinking. The world today is one where we are no longer concerned with survival, but now thriving. This means we need to accent what we've lost.. focusing on the feminine... enhancing their peace of mind, abilities, and impact on the world. He applies his many different approaches with women entrepreneurs and professionals (some men to) to accelerate their growth. Each of his programs are synthesized from hundreds of existing models, tested in real-world situations, and streamlined for individual performance. In this show, Lyric and Lian explored the topic of women and aloneness - how that aloneness can be seen as loneliness which shows up in addiction, abusive relationships, dependencies, bad habits, and closing off to life in many ways. What you'll learn from this episode: We place a negative meaning on the fact of our 'aloneness', we decide it's 'loneliness'... and then that makes us seek out ways to distract or remove ourselves from the feeling. Lyric talked about the ways we try to remove this loneliness: the three 'atchments' of detachment, attachment, non-attachment. It's important to remember that we don't actively or consciously choose any of these atchments, they're what simply what our thoughts are creating based on the way we see ourselves and the world. Those beliefs were once useful for us but it doesn't mean that they still are serving us well now. As we as women (actually, men too!) see through our atchments and become more comfortable with our inherent aloneness, we can see the core of us is perfectly and naturally OK and we're more able to be open to exploring and connecting from that place.

Jun 28, 2016 • 54min
How to see death for what it really is. A Happy Hour Conversation with Lea Ann Mallett
I’m here today with Lea Ann Mallett, a wild woman, activist and midlife momma who believes fiercely that we all have a wild place within us that feeds our magic. Her greatest desire is to make the world a better place by demonstrating to everyone that our everyday choices DO change the world. In her activism she has travelled from direct action wilderness activist to nonprofit leader, from sitting in an ancient cedar for three days to protest clear-cut logging to leading forest protests to creating thriving nonprofits. She now inspires mission-driven leaders to greater impact as a leadership coach, is creating a new vision for activism, and she creates photo-essays of life, love and connection in her blog “Becoming Undomesticated”. In this show, Lea Ann and I explore the topic of death and grief... whether or not there is a 'right' way to grieve and how a clearer understanding of death can allow us to live more fulfilling, more present and happier lives. What you'll learn from this episode: The linear definition of grief (as outlined in 'The 5 stages of grief') can be limiting. When we see through this definition we're freer to experience grief in a less conditioned way, we are then open to find real growth, beauty, freedom and gratitude in loss and all in our own unique time too. When we're able to see death and ageing as transformation rather than something scary or wrong, we're able to see the fleeting, changeable nature of life which inspires us to make the most of our time here, to live bigger and brighter. Take that trip around the world, tell people that you love them, dance barefoot around the garden or whatever it is that takes your fancy! As we honour death - and in some cultures there's traditions that are dedicated to celebrating this - we are more able to accept and embrace it fully. Whilst your culture might not have a tradition like this, you have the choice to create your own philosophy about death. How could you and your family honour death rather than fear it?

Jun 21, 2016 • 53min
Breaking up doesn't have to be hard to do. A Happy Hour Conversation with Piers Thurston
This week's show is with Piers has been a personal and professional development coach since 2001, and coached 100s clients for 1000s of hours; ranging from national newspaper editors, to Sheiks in Riyadh, to international sports people. He first discovered the principles in 2009, but it wasn’t until participating in SuperCoach 2011 that he realise this was going to be a huge turning point in his life and work. Previously he had based my change work around NLP (he was a NLP trainer) Clean Language, Appreciative Inquiry, and range of others approaches and techniques. Now he is having a wonderful time exploring the Principles with his clients, both in the corporate and private client worlds. Piers is currently in the final stages of divorce and has generously agreed to share what he's learned from going through the experience. So in this show we explore whether it's possible to go through a relationship break-up and divorce without it being a long battle of bitterness and anger. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: We all have our own narrative about what a relationship should be like. Recognising that that that narrative is just something we've made up (via thought) allows us to 'loosen our narrative' and be open to moving onto a different relationship with the other person, whether that's as friends, amicable exes or something else. Some thinking can be particularly seductive - Piers likened it to being sucked in by the Dementors from Harry Potter! That kind of thinking can be very hard to notice that it's just thought. But it can be so helpful to notice that even the most seductive, Dementor-like thinking isn't us (just like our dreams aren't us), it doesn't last 24/7 and when we're not thinking about something, we're not feeling it. We often build stories around people in our life and then continually see that person through that lens. But we can look afresh from a neutral space ('mind neutral' as Piers described it) and see the person how they actually are in this moment, without all the thinking around justification, traditional, commitment, beliefs, history and fairness. From that neutrality we have the opportunity to create a whole different relationship with them. Even knowing this neutrality exists, makes it possible for us. You don't have to stick at difficult conversations if either of you are in a low state of mind. Piers gave the example of he and his ex-wife having a conversation about money and having an awareness of their state of mind. When the feeling dropped, they agreed to pause and then waited until they were in a higher state of mind before restarting the conversation. I loved the point that Piers made at the end: if you're going through a difficult break-up right now, there's probably aspects such as money or custody which don't look like they're 'just thought', but it is all made of the same stuff as everything else. You always have the opportunity to have a liberation from the way you're thinking and feeling about it at the moment.

Jun 14, 2016 • 53min
How to move on from trauma in your past. A Happy Hour Conversation with Jim Pehkonen
This week's show is with Jim Pehkonen. Jim is a Life Architect and a Certified Transformative Coach who works in the fields of chemical addiction recovery and youth at risk. Jim works with up to 60 people in recovery weekly … making a profound difference while opening a space for healing. In this show we spoke about how it’s possible to move on from trauma in your past. What you'll learn from this episode: We all have a past but none of us are defined or limited by our past. The things that happened to you are just things that you experienced, they're not you. We can't be soiled or stained by trauma our past, almost every part of us is constantly being renewed. The only place trauma exists is in our thoughts. Jim spoke of the power of becoming aware of where your thoughts are putting blocks between you and love. Once we see those blocks for what they are - simply thought - we can also see that we can always reconnect to love. We always have that choice.

Jun 8, 2016 • 50min
The fascinating truth behind prisoners transformations. A Happy Hour Conversation with Jacqueline Hollows
This week's show is with Jacqueline Hollows, the founder of Beyond Recovery CIC. Jacqueline works within the criminal justice system (with support staff and inmates) sharing how our experience of life is created from our own minds. Jacqueline has seen that through a fresh thought in any moment, a deeper level of common sense, connection and resilience is always available. Even in prison people are finding humour, and connection, and joy and peace of mind. If that is possible in one small section of one prison– the universal possibilities are limitless! In this show we talk about Jacqueline's work in prisons and what she's seen about labels and diagnoses (e.g. PTSD, addict, depression, anxiety)... both how they can initially be helpful and also what's possible when we see past those labels and understand the true nature of how our minds work. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: Labels and diagnoses can be helpful in people getting some help and also allowing them and those around them to see their psychological innocence. But this is only part of the puzzle... labels can keep people feeling broken and from moving past that label. We can grow and move past suffering when we begin to see where the suffering is coming from - our own thoughts. Hearing about what possible for prisoners' with very challenging life stories, a collection of labels and diagnoses, and not to mention the circumstances of being locked away in prison, shows what's possible for all of us!

Jun 3, 2016 • 1h 8min
Why eating normally can make you overweight and unhealthy. A Happy Hour Conversation with Lucas Rockwood
This week's show is with Lucas Rockwood, a yoga teacher trainer, digital nomad, green food junkie, and serial entrepreneur. With a formal yoga training background in Hot Yoga, Ashtanga Yoga, Gravity Yoga, and the Yoga Trapeze, Lucas has studied with some of the most well-respected teachers on the planet. Lucas founded Absolute Yoga Academy in 2006, one of the top 10 yoga teacher training schools in the world with 2,000 certified teachers (and counting) and courses in Thailand, Holland, United Kingdom, and The Philippines. In search of nutritional products designed specifically for achy yoga students’ bodies, Rockwood worked with senior nutritional formulator, Paul Gaylon, and founded, YOGABODY Naturals, in the back of his yoga studio in 2007. The company has gone from strength-to-strength and is now an internationally-renowned nutrition, education, and publishing organization serving 81 countries. In this show we talk about how unnaturally most humans eat in today's modern world and what that's doing to our health, weight and energy levels. And what we can do instead! I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: When we get caught up in diet religions or paradigms (such as paleo or raw vegan) and they don't work, it's easy to give up on the approach altogether and flip back to the way they were eating before... typically the standard diet of foods which are convenient, hyper-palatable, high glycemic, low nutrient and processed, which is unlikely to be optimal for anyone. Eating a low fat and high carb diet is very common these days, whether it's a standard diet or a raw food diet but Lucas cautions that this way of eating can cause health issues in the longer term - 'a metabolic disaster' in Lucas's words. That's why many of us find that we run into health issues, sexual dysfunction, mood disorders, and weight gain as we get older even when we're eating the exact same way as we did when we were younger. The best place for most of us to start is by looking at our macros - fat, carbs, and protein. Lucas's suggests starting with eating a gram of carb for each pound of your ideal body weight, around half a gram of protein for each pound of your ideal bodyweight and then fill in the rest with the healthiest fats you can find (i.e. not yellow vegetable oils in clear plastic bottles). And experiment! Measure your blood glucose and see how your diet changes are working for you... we're all a bit different, what works for me might not work for you!

May 26, 2016 • 60min
How to live an awesome life after adversity. A Happy Hour Conversation with Niko Leppanen
This week's show is with Niko Leppänen. Niko is a transformative coach, trainer and inspirational speaker. He is the founder of the UNLIMITED conference and the co-founder of the 3P-Academy Finland. At the age of 16 Niko suffered a rare inflammatory disease known as transverse myelitis which causes damage to the spinal cord and the central nervous system. As a result of the severity of the inflammation, he was left paralyzed from the waist down and he has been in wheelchair since. Having had to face this kind of adversity at a such young age made him look for answer to some of the big questions about life and the meaning of everything. This search led him to study various philosophies and schools of thought before eventually coming across the Three Principles understanding as first articulated by the late Sydney Banks. For the past three years, he has been fortunate to learn about this revolutionary understanding directly from some of the most renowned teachers and trainers in the world. As a coach and speaker, Niko is passionate about helping individuals to realise the true source of their experience and tap into the limitless creative potential that rests within every human being. Given Niko’s background as a person with limited physical mobility, his simple message touches people in an inspiring and uplifting way. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: Niko realised that even after he thought that he was likely paralysed for the rest of his life, he still had good times and bad times just like before it happened. He realised that it was still possible to live an awesome life, no matter the circumstances. Niko says that he came to realise that he has no idea what will happen in his life. That means it doesn't make a lot of sense trying to figure and try to control what will happen in a year or 10 years. He spoke about the quieter mind, freedom and presence that comes from being OK with not knowing. Change rarely comes directly from the words we hear or read, it's in the natural process of us seeing things differently for ourselves.

May 19, 2016 • 54min
How to reclaim your resilience after human domestication. A Happy Hour Conversation with Jonathan Mead
This week's show is with Jonathan Mead is an irreverent pioneer, champion for human wildness and professional instigator. He quit his job at age 23 after moonlighting on his own terms. Now in his early 30s and a full-time renegade, he’s passionate about helping men reawaken the giants sleeping within them. He’s found that by helping men reconnect with nature, they discover their own true nature and wild masculine strength. His deepest mission is to instigate a worldwide movement of wild brotherhood, focusing on helping men uncage, one at a time. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: When we ask ourselves the simple question "What's natural for humans and for me?" we begin to uncover all kinds of amazing answers about life. We're meant to move a lot more than we typically think we are. Doing an hour at the gym or going for a run doesn't come close to getting us to how we're designed to live. Think about children you know and how they're constantly moving around - that's how we're designed to be as adults too. We all have the opportunity now to ask ourselves what's natural and then to create that environment for ourselves. How we move, eat, love, think and all sorts of things are typically out of whack for humans in today's modern world but we absolutely have the option to create environment that supports a more natural way for us to live. What’s the number one change you’ll make after listening to this show - I'd love to hear what you come up with.

May 12, 2016 • 45min
How to discover the space within. A Happy Hour Conversation with Michael Neill
This week's show is with with Michael Neill. Michael Neill is an internationally renowned transformative coach and the best-selling author of five books including The Inside-Out Revolution and The Space Within, coming from Hay House on May 3rd, 2016. His weekly radio show has been entertaining and educating global audiences for over a decade and his TEDx talk, ‘Why Aren’t We Awesomer?’, has been viewed by over 100,000 people around the world. In this show we talk about Michael's thoughts on what he describes in his latest book as 'the space within'. This space has been described in many different philosophies, religions and spiritual traditions over the ages. In this show we explore what happens as we get in touch with this space within, the role of thought and what's possible for us when we see through our fixed beliefs about how things work. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: As we begin to see (or maybe a better word is 'feel'!) this space within, it allows us to see that we're made of something perfect and whole. Thoughts come and go within this space and understanding this allows us to recognise the ever-changing nature of thought and allows us to get a lot less caught up in it. Michael said that many people have what Michael calls a 'God phobia', which means we're so busy having a knee-jerk reaction to the word, we can't even think about it rationally because we're looking at it through the lens of what we already think we know about it. That's also true for the word 'spiritual'. But when we lose the phobia, we're able to begin to see what's there for ourselves.

May 5, 2016 • 48min
This Doctor's unusual view on depression will inspire you. A Happy Hour Conversation with Dr Mark Howard
This week's show is with Mark Howard, Ph.D. Dr. Howard is a psychologist who is recognized as one of the original professionals bringing the Three Principles to psychology and related fields. Since 1982, Dr Howard has taught clients, families, business professionals, and mental health practitioners about these principles. In 1994 he brought the understanding of these three principles to the Department of Alcohol and Drug Services in Santa Clara County California. Dr Howard has co-authored a published research paper demonstrating the validity of the three principles in treatment outcome. In 2008, Dr Howard was awarded the “Outstanding Career Service” award by the Santa Clara Psychological Association. In this show we talk about how Mark works with his clients who are suffering from depression and the freedom and happiness that he sees is true for every one of us. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: Any emotional state - such as depression - must start with thought. We can all see beyond our usual way of seeing things and this can happen in a moment. When that happens, years of feeling a specific way, even depression, can drop away instantly. We can all have new thought that we've not had before - news ways to think about ourselves or other people. You're not limited to your brain. If you're suffering from depression then first of all, make sure you're safe, reach out to someone.