

Roots and All - Gardening Podcast
Sarah Wilson
Do you want to know how to grow plants and get the best out of your outdoor space? Do you find traditional gardening media baffling and/or boring? Then you’re in the right place, because the Roots and All podcast is here to dig deep into how to create a successful garden.
If you want honest information and insider knowledge about how to get results, join irreverent horticulturist Sarah Wilson as she chats to the best people from the world of plants and gardens. Sarah is on a mission to help you create your own beautiful green environment, with a focus on saving resources and working with nature.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast to make sure you don’t miss an episode.
If you want honest information and insider knowledge about how to get results, join irreverent horticulturist Sarah Wilson as she chats to the best people from the world of plants and gardens. Sarah is on a mission to help you create your own beautiful green environment, with a focus on saving resources and working with nature.
Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast to make sure you don’t miss an episode.
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Feb 20, 2023 • 30min
Episode 225: Hardy Eucalyptus
My guest this week is Hilary Collins who runs Hardy Eucalyptus at Grafton Nursery. Hilary researches the best way to grow Eucalyptus trees in the UK and also Europe. At the nursery, they run all manner of trials and Hilary writes papers and articles on Eucalyptus plus she has a book called Cut Foliage Eucalyptus – Fantastic Foliage and How to Farm it. She consults all over the world, and also works in the Garden Design and Construction Company advising on planting design. Hilary is here today talking all things eucalyptus and my first question was how she came to specialise in this group of plants. Dr Ian Bedford’s Bug of the Week: Signals What We Talk About Different garden-worth eucalyptus varieties Eucalyptus selection Eucalyptus pruning Eucalyptus seed provenance How to plant them to ensure success The benefits of air-pot containers What is March 18th all about in the Horticultural Calendar and the life of any Eucalyptus tree owner? About Hilary Collins First and foremost in my career: I am a horticulturist…and also parent to 2 daughters Charlie and Victoria. Charlie is our landscape Architect for our garden design and build company Envisage Gardens. Victoria has escaped from professional horticulture and works in education. I started growing plants when I was about 3 or 4 with my father who was a very keen gardener and amateur tree-grower, but we grew all manner of bedding plants, fruit and vegetables, tomatoes, perennials. He was very into Bonsai too. And my mother was very keen that I should learn all about our native flora, from a very early age. I went to University of Bath to read Horticulture because I loved the subject, loved the city and the location and also partly in rebellion because it really appalled my headmistress who thought it was a really unsuitable career for a ‘young lady’! The course is no longer on offer sadly. Whilst at Bath, I worked for Long Ashton Research Station running the Specific Apple Replant Disease Trials, following year I ran the Fireblight Trials for Showerings (Allied Lyons) and then just before my final year I worked at the National Fruit Trials – trees again, but this time working in Tissue Culture. So I would have liked to have gone into research, but all the Research Stations closed down. I am an escaped Lab Rat. So I went into commercial horticulture, growing plants and also garden design. When I graduated, I ran a tree seed business for a couple of years before selling it. We bought Grafton Nursery in 2008 and decided amongst other plants, to grow trees. This has evolved into almost exclusively growing Eucalyptus trees for a wide range of customers. I like to talk talk about the wide range of applications of Eucalyptus. There isn’t just Eucalyptus gunnii. We grow over 70 species. They have a wide range of applications. · Carbon sequestration · Producing timber for firewood logs, biomass, hardwood lumber and silvo pasture · Cut Foliage for floral art and fodder for Zoo Animals · Screening trees – shade trees · Nectar and pollen for bees – all year round · Sustainable drainage systems – via the Swamp Gums · Tencel – Lycocell for clothing fabric and carpets etc · Oil – antimicrobial – used in cosmetics, medicinal products and rocket fuel · Gold prospected – ok may be not in the UK… I run Hardy Eucalyptus at Grafton Nursery, where I research the best way to grow Eucalyptus trees in the UK and also Europe. We run all manner of trials. I write papers and articles on Eucalyptus; Shrub-on-a-stick – how to prune them to keep them small Shrub-in-a-tub – how to grow them successful in containers Screening trees for privacy. How to grow them as a hedge Best way to grow Cut Foliage so we can support our Flower Farmers with the right advice in their Eucalyptus orchards/plantations We also have a small firewood plantation and we trial the trees for their use in sustainable drainage systems. I’ve written a book on how to grow Cut Foliage Eucalyptus – Fantastic Foliage and How to Farm it. Prior to Brexit we exported all over Europe – trying to make that happen again with our French Project. I consult all over the world, including America, Norway, New Zealand and Australia. I also work in our Garden Design and Construction Company – I do the planting plans. I have a particular interest in Wild Gardens and Kitchen/Fruit Gardens. Links www.hardy-eucalyptus.com Cut Foliage Eucalyptus: Fantastic Foliage and How to Farm It by Hilary Collins Other episodes if you liked this one: Exotic Plants with Graham Blunt of Plantbase Nursery Camellias with Fiona Edmond Patreon Membership

Feb 13, 2023 • 30min
Episode 224: Making Gardening Accessible
Hello and welcome to this week’s episode of Roots and All, where my guest is garden designer, TV personality and Trustee of the Gardening with Disabilities Trust Mark Lane. Mark talks about the various types of challenges people can face that might impede their activity in the garden, and how gardens and gardening can be adapted to enable people to carry on with these activities. He gives some excellent, practical advice for anyone who may need to adapt horticulture to suit their own needs or those of others. Dr Ian Bedford’s Bug of the Week: Stridulation What We Talk About Is gardening one of the more tricky hobbies to modify if you find yourself less able? Why is it a good thing to keep on gardening? How many people in the UK are gardening with disabilities? What are some of the most common types of disabilities facing gardeners? Some of the biggest challenges you see come up time and again Helpful solutions Where can people go to get help to garden/grants? Where can designers and pro gardeners go to get guidance? About Mark Lane Roger Hirons has been a horticultural speaker for over thirty years, presenting to garden clubs and societies as well as the University of the Third Age and the Women's Institute. Since studying horticulture at Pershore College, he has also run and co-run plant centres and worked in the landscaping industry for nearly twenty years. Links Mark Lane Designs Gardening with Disabilities Trust Other episodes if you liked this one: Gardening by Touch, Smell, Sound and Taste with Andrew Hesser Stephen Hackett of Horatio’s Garden Patreon Membership

Feb 7, 2023 • 24min
Episode 223: Hedges and Living Boundaries
This week’s guest is Roger Hirons, a horticultural expert and speaker, who’s been in the industry for over 35 years. Roger has just released a really excellent book called the Gardener’s Guide to Hedges and Living Boundaries, which covers preparation and design advice for establishing a new living boundary; advice on dealing with existing boundaries in need of restoration or extension; planting for both your human and wildlife neighbours and also a directory of some really interesting hedging plants, climbers and trees. Dr Ian Bedford’s Bug of the Week: The Swallowtail What We Talk About Why plant a hedge or living boundary instead of installing a fence? What is a living boundary? Which plants are well suited to creating a fedge? What plants are good for wildlife? Boundaries that are low maintenance Boundaries that are good for security Mounds aka bunds Wall shrubs Tips for staking newly planted plants Hedges that are good for wildlife When to cut a hedge if being considerate of bird nesting and feeding behaviours About Roger Hirons Roger Hirons has been a horticultural speaker for over thirty years, presenting to garden clubs and societies as well as the University of the Third Age and the Women's Institute. Since studying horticulture at Pershore College, he has also run and co-run plant centres and worked in the landscaping industry for nearly twenty years. Links Gardener’s Guide to Hedges and Living Boundaries by Roger Hirons - The Crowood Press Ltd, October 2022 Other episodes if you liked this one: Low Allergen Planting with Olivia Kirk Ivy with Fibrex Nurseries Patreon Membership

Jan 30, 2023 • 22min
Episode 222: Nature from the Rubble
Hello and welcome to this episode of Roots and All. This week, I’m speaking to landscape architect Sally Bower. Sally has just been awarded the main RHS prize for her Bursary Report titled ‘Nature Rising from the Rubble’ which looks at gravel and recycled aggregate gardens in Essex and London. Specifically, Sally looked at John Little’s Hilldrop garden, RHS Hyde Hall, Beth Chatto’s gravel garden, the Langdon Nature Discovery Car Park and the Horniman Museum Grasslands garden and her findings were invaluable if you’re interested in designing with or growing in these types of media, and Sally had some surprising findings of note too. Dr Ian Bedford’s Bug of the Week: Harlequins What We Talk About The purposes of the study and the distinctions between the different growing media used by people creating gravel/rubble gardens Is this style of gardening be appropriate across the whole of the UK? Big Sky Meadow - is this style of planting is as labour intensive as a traditional flower border might be? In Beth Chatto’s garden, when beds are newly installed or are refreshed, they are subject to double digging during which process mushroom compost is incorporated to improve soil fertility. How does this gel with the idea that plants grow really well in low fertility, well-drained gravel substrates? John Little’s private garden and how it is built to encourage biodiversity How important is a site specific approach? One of the gardens is a success because once the plants grow through the aggregate and reach the clay below, they grow happily and healthily. Isn’t this just a gravel mulched garden rather than a proper gravel garden? How gravel gardens make a positive environmental contribution Why does soil which contain demolition waste high in lime capture carbon more quickly? Sally’s favourite example of this type of garden from the ones she wrote about About Sally Bower Based in Liverpool, I’ve been a landscape architect and garden design for over 20 years. My designs aim to develop attractive low impact schemes which reconnect people with nature, support wildlife and respond to the site and its setting. I am particularly interested in what it means to make a ‘wild’ garden and brownfield gardens for biodiversity and wildlife. Links www.sallybower.co.uk Link to Sally’s Report - ‘Nature rising from the rubble’ Other episodes if you liked this one: John Little of the Grass Roof Company Beth Chatto with Catherine Horwood Patreon Membership

Jan 23, 2023 • 30min
Episode 221: Sky Gardening
My guest this episode is the super-talented and creative gardener and designer Brent Purtell and we’re talking about the Capitaspring Rooftop Garden in Singapore, which shares the ‘2nd highest’ building ranking along with 3 other buildings, all the same height. There are 3 gardens on the building, covering an area of 10,000 square feet and containing a mixture of ornamentals and edibles, all growing at dizzying heights. Brent was involved on the build and design side before he became the Head Gardener, overseeing the maintenance of Capitaspring Rooftop Garden. Dr Ian Bedford’s Bug of the Week: Stinky pigs What We Talk About What is the Capitaspring Rooftop Garden and where is it located? How much growing space is there in total? The kind of things which grow in the garden How productive a rooftop edible can forest be How the produce is used The challenges of growing edibles on a rooftop Who visits the garden? About the Capitaspring Building & Gardens The Capitaspring building was completed in early 2022. At 280m high, it shares the ‘2nd highest’ building ranking along with 3 other buildings, all the same height. This is due to Singapore having a cap of 280m on any new building. It's owned by Capitaland, a major property developer in Singapore and the region. Designed by BIG-Bjarke Ingels Group, and Carlo Ratti, it is very much a flagship building for the company and Singapore in general, with the relatively unique use of planting throughout the building. Current tenants are the big investment house JPMorgan, for example. An article about the building Within the tower are three restaurants. These are: ‘Sol and Luna’ on level 17 - a casual latin inspired theme ‘Kaarla’ on level 51 - Fine dining coastal Australian ‘Oumi’ on level 51 - Fine dining Japanese Originally there was no concept of a ‘food forest’ or similar from the architects, and indeed, the chef's garden only takes up 50% of the overall rooftop space, with the other 50% planted in typical ornamental, low maintenance fashion. Rather, the addition of the edible section came from 1 Group, who reached out to a local company, Edible Garden City Pte Ltd to help with the design and installation. www.ediblegardencity.com Edible Garden City was started in 2012 with the aim of ‘helping Singaporeans grow their own food’. It has 3 pillars to the business, one being food production at 2 ‘urban farms’, which supplies produce to many restaurants through the city, including many Michelin starred. The second pillar is education, which runs workshops for the public at the aforementioned urban farm, along with onsite workshops for teachers in schools across the city. Thirdly, they design and build edible gardens, with over 260 built to date. The majority of these are gardens built within schools so that the students have access to a working garden, however many gardens have been built for commercial/hospitality venues, including the famous ParkRoyal Hotel, Marina Bay Sands etc. The remaining founder Bjorn Low, is a very recognised figure within Singapore for his environmental efforts. The garden was opened in Feb/march 2022 and so is still quite new and produces approx 70 - 80 kgs of produce a month. For example, here is a breakdown for October: Apple mint 200gm Brazilian Spinach 19.6kg Fame Flower 1kg Lemon Balm 800gm Lemon Myrtle 1.5kg Moringa leaves 10gm Kaarla Salad mix 12kg Purslane 3.1kg Rosemary 280gm Thyme 50gm Wasabina Mustard 1.5kg Wild Water Cress 15.5kg Mizuna Mustard 1.5kg Komatsuna 1kg Oyster Leaf 500gm Wild Pepper 500gm Pumpkin x 3 Edible flowers 2kg And here are a few of the ways the kitchen use them all: KAARLA CLOSED LOOP SALAD - ROOF TOP LEAVES AND FLOWERS, TIGER NUT CURD, DAIKON WESTERN PRAWNS, GERALDTON WAX, NATIVE TAMARIND ARDEN GROWN TIGER NUT ICE CREAM, TIGERNUT NOUGATINE, WHITE CHITOSE CORN, CALAMANSI JELLY, POACHED ORANGES AUSTRALIAN MARKET OYSTER, FIG LEAF AND OYSTER PLANT VINEGAR 8PP SESAME CRUST TUNA SERVED WITH WOOD-FIRED PADRON PEPPER, LEMON MYRTLE DRESSING LOBSTER DONABE - Garden Komatsuna, Tofu, Shungiku, Chestnut, Mitsuba, Seafood Dashi KOHITSUJI YAKI - Grilled Australian Lamb, Red Garlic Sauce, Lemon Myrtle, Lemon Balm, Calamansi, Satsumaimo UNI IKURA - Sea Urchin, Salmon Roe, Wasabina, Yuzu CHIRASHI Sashimi Of The Day, Daily Produce From Our Food Forest BUTA KAKUNI - Braised Australian Pork Belly, Fresh Yuzu, Fame Flower, Eringii, Egg Yolk, Mountain Caviar SHIO KOJI TEPPAN CHICKEN - Free-Range Chicken , Sansho Koji, Garlic Flower, Curry Leaf The ‘Kaarla closed loop salad’ in particular is popular as a signature dish. Links www.1-group.sg www.kaarla-oumi.sg/kaarla Other episodes if you liked this one: Food Forest in Your Garden Food Forests for Plant Lovers Patreon Membership

Jan 16, 2023 • 24min
Episode 220: The Gardener's Almanac
To book-end the winter break, I’m sort of picking up where we left off by talking about a way to mark the passing of the year and the seasons and to ground yourself and your gardening endeavours in the natural patterns that govern them. My guest is Lia Leendertz, author of the annual The Almanac: A Seasonal Guide and she starts by talking about the origins of her almanac. Dr Ian Bedford’s Bug of the Week: Winter in the veg garden What We Talk About The history of Lia’s Almanac How Lia intends for people to use the Almanac throughout the year The importance connecting with traditions, celebrations and rituals The monthly list of gardening jobs Gardening by the phases of the moon Underlying themes of the Almanac; the pond and the zodiac A discussion of Lia’s line about the month of August, “Your ancestors would be proud to see how far you have come, sipping a glass of cold wine and laughing in the sun.” About Lia Leendertz Lia is an award-winning garden and food writer based in Bristol. Her reinvention of the traditional rural almanac has become an annual must-have for readers eager to connect with the seasons, appreciate the outdoors and discover ways to mark and celebrate each month. Links The Almanac: A Seasonal Guide to 2023 by Lia Leendertz - Octopus Publishing Group, September 2022 Lia’s Website Lia on Instagram Lia on Twitter Other episodes if you liked this one: The Wheel of the Year with Dr Rebecca Beattie Garden Roots with Lulah Ellender Patreon Membership

Dec 19, 2022 • 32min
Episode 219: The Wheel of the Year
My guest this week is Dr Rebecca Beattie. Rebecca has just released a book called ‘The Wheel of the Year’, which is a look at what is happening in nature and in ourselves as the seasons move from one to the other. She suggests tools and rituals to rediscover and appreciate each seasonal festival, giving you a chance to pause, reflect and connect you to the wheel of your own life. As this is the last episode of 2022 and the winter solstice is just 2 days away, I thought this would be a perfect way to wrap up the year and to encourage you to take time to appreciate, well time, as it passes and as things shift from one state of being to another. Christmas can be a frenetic time so I hope you can take half an hour out of your schedule to sit down and listen to Rebecca and to contemplate your place in the wheel of the year. Dr Ian Bedford’s Bug of the Week: Lycaenidae butterflies What We Talk About What is the wheel of the year? The origins of the events and customs you find at the sabbats In our secular society, are we beginning to realise the importance of connecting back to a framework that makes sense of time and our place in the world? Useful hints for people to make sure they remember to mark the passing of seasons at appropriate times Advantages gardeners have in terms of being connected to the wheel of the year Our own annual wheel of the year and how this connect to those that occur in nature How our unsettled seasons might affect how we celebrate the sabbats About Rebecca Beattie Dr Rebecca Beattie is a Wiccan Priestess with a PhD in Creative Writing. Rebecca grew up on Dartmoor, which gave her an early appreciation of the power and joys of nature. She has been practising solitary witchcraft for twenty years and an initiate of the Gardnerian Wiccan tradition for fifteen. She is acclaimed for her highly informed teaching of witchcraft subjects at Treadwell’s Books in Bloomsbury. By day she is a professional in a major charity, with advanced degrees in Literature and Creative writing. Links The Wheel of the Year by Rebecca Beattie - Elliott & Thompson Ltd, October 2022 Catherine Heatherington Designs Other episodes if you liked this one: Sacred Woodlands with Simon Leadbeater Sensory Herbalism with Karen Lawton Patreon Membership

Dec 12, 2022 • 24min
Episode 218: Creating Natural Habitats in the Garden

Dec 5, 2022 • 32min
Episode 217: Composting & Bokashi
This week’s guest is Martyn Richards who is the Home & Garden Manager for Agriton UK, part of a large European group of companies who manufacture products to help commercial and domestic users deal with the ‘soil, crop, animal waste cycle’. Martyn contacted me to see if I would be interested in speaking to him about their bokashi composting system and I thought, yes, I would, because I didn’t really understand the process. So my first question to Martyn was, just what is bokashi? Listen now and all will be revealed… What We Talk About What is bokashi compost? How bokashi systems are different to traditional composting methods What can you compost? Is there anything you can’t? Do you need to add anything for the process to work? What are Bokashi organisms? Where do they originate from? Is it expensive to set up? Does it work at any scale? Does what you put in affect what comes out in terms of nutrient value? What is Bokashi bran? Links Agriton’s Bokashi Brochure www.agriton.co.uk Other episodes if you liked this one: The Composting Process Feeding Your Soil with Humanure Patreon Membership

Nov 28, 2022 • 29min
Episode 216: Korean Natural Farming
This week, my guest is David O’Carroll. David runs an 11 acre agroforestry learning centre in Totnes, Devon where he teaches natural farming methods, based on the techniques around Indigenous Microorganisms (IMO) and Korean Natural Farming (KNF). He focuses on building healthy soil to produce healthy plants and is both generous with his time and knowledge as he aims to share the details of his techniques to help other growers. What We Talk About What is Korean Natural Farming? What is IMO? How do you make it? Why do you need it? What is LAB? How does it help plants? Is KNF as useful for ornamental plants as it is for edibles? Do you need a lot of space to make the KNF preparations? Preparations for home gardeners to try Links www.ballaghbotanicals.co.uk www.zerosoap.info Other episodes if you liked this one: Mycorrhizal Fungi with Jeff Lowenfels Garden Amendments with Nigel Palmer Patreon Membership