
Business Is Boring
Think business is boring? This podcast proves it's anything but. Join Simon Pound as he talks to everyone from accidental entrepreneurs to industry leaders about their business journeys and what propelled them to where they are today. Made in partnership with Deel.
Latest episodes

Sep 4, 2023 • 39min
How Almighty grew into an international success
Ben Lenart, CEO and founder at Almighty Drinks joins Simon Pound to chat innovation in beverages, caffeinated sparkling waters, and their current capital raise to expand internationally. Plus, Ben stages a coup and asks Simon some questions of his own. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 28, 2023 • 41min
How Frankie manages property management
After helping scale Uber in the UK, Frankie founder George Fenwicke decided to tackle a bigger challenge, streamlining the process to manage commercial property. We talked her journey, systems thinking and turning property management into something fresh! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 21, 2023 • 30min
How Indigital is decolonising digital spaces
Descending from the Dharug speaking Nations of Sydney, Mikaela Jade is the founder and CEO at Indigital – Australia’s first Indigenous edutech company. In town for Future State, a Spark Lab and Semi Permanent event, she joined Simon Pound to talk accessing ancient knowledge to guide tomorrow’s AI thinking and her mission to close the digital divide between Indigenous and non-Indigenous peoples. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 14, 2023 • 49min
OnBoard: Improving diversity in startup boards
OnBoard is on a mission to improve diversity of thought for startup and growth company boards. Founder Cassie McAdams and Program Director Sophie McLernon join Simon Pound to talk about the work they do to get more perspectives onto boards and to help more companies engage with a wider pool of directors. With day jobs at Movac and Snowball Effect, they share their experience in the growth ecosystem and how they believe things can improve. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 7, 2023 • 49min
Kate Sylvester is celebrating 30 years in fashion
For Kate Sylvester, 2023 marks 30 years of design, helping make New Zealand’s reputation in the fashion industry across the globe. Kate joins Simon Pound to talk creating the brand, growing the sector, and her work as a founder of Mindful Fashion, the industry collective helping support ethical practices in local fashion production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 31, 2023 • 48min
Woolchemy's answer to plastic-filled nappies
Woolchemy is a local wool technology company with a patented approach to creating a woven, absorbent fabric layer for use in nappies and other hygiene products. Founder and CEO Derelee Potroz-Smith has pioneered the science, industry partnerships, and closed a $1.5m funding round with a plan to have her wool replace widely used petro-chemical fabrics, putting New Zealand's sheep industry back on top of the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 24, 2023 • 40min
Meet the team behind the 2022 NZ House of the Year
Pac Studio are one of NZ’s top architecture studios, who work to bring fun, colour and a personal feel to every project. Last year their beautiful project, Waimataruru, won Here magazine House of the Year and National housing gong at the New Zealand Architecture Awards. Co-founders Aaron Paterson and Sarosh Mulla join us to talk what it takes to be an architect, how is it to be the steward for the biggest purchase most people will ever make, and how to maintain your own voice within your practice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 17, 2023 • 53min
What the past tells us about the future of AI
Dr Jonnie Penn, an expert on the history of AI, discusses the past, present, and future of AI development with Simon Pound. They explore the transformative impact of AI, ethical concerns, and the importance of historical context in shaping AI's future towards a positive direction.

Jul 10, 2023 • 45min
Derek Handley's new non-bank bank for aspiring homeowners
Aera is a new financial institution aimed at people who earn good money but are locked out of the housing market because they cannot afford extremely high deposits. Its founder, Derek Handley, grew one of the world's first mobile-focused technology creative companies, The Hyperfactory, and then worked with Sir Richard Branson on The B Team. Listen for a chat about society, technology, finance, religion, and climate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 3, 2023 • 1h 9min
Meet the brain behind Xero and Upstock
Xero has defined the SaaS ecosystem here. Although an accounting company, it stood out as a delightful experience and brand, and much of that spirit is thanks to Philip Fierlinger, co-founder and design leader for Xero. He's behind the reconciliation feature and the Do Beautiful Business idea. Today, he is co-CEO and founder at Upstock, a hospo wholesale ordering app building out another change to an industry. Philip shares the stories behind the work anyone that's used Xero knows, and his next mission at Upstock. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices