
Business Is Boring
Think business is boring? This podcast proves it's anything but. Join Simon Pound as he talks to everyone from accidental entrepreneurs to industry leaders about their business journeys and what propelled them to where they are today. Made in partnership with Deel.
Latest episodes

Jun 17, 2024 • 57min
Listen Now: episode one of Juggernaut – I Love You, Mr Lange
We thought you might like a wee taster of our brand new #1 series, Juggernaut: The Story of the Fourth Labour Government, hosted by Toby Manhire. Click here to follow Juggernaut so you get every episode as soon as it's released!1. I love you, Mr LangeFuelled by brandy and fury, Sir Rob Muldoon calls a snap election, sparking a 1984 campaign of contrasts – the menacing, protectionist National PM against the fresh, upbeat Labour leader, David Lange. The pretext for the election is the decision by Marilyn Waring, a young, gay MP, to back an anti-nuclear bill and quit the National caucus, prompting an earful from Muldoon. Lange, meanwhile, is joined at the hip by a hungry would-be finance minister, Roger Douglas. They are about to confront a profound crisis, and launch a revolution.Includes previously unheard interviews with David Lange from the 84 campaign trail, and new and exclusive interviews with Marilyn Waring, Roger Douglas, Geoffrey Palmer, Richard Prebble, Peter Harris, Margaret Wilson, Bob Harvey and Gary McCormick.Click here for full details of archive material used in this seriesJuggernaut was made with the support of NZ On Air. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 10, 2024 • 44min
The AI opportunity for Aotearoa
Greg Shove is CEO at Section, the next generation education online company founded by Professor Scott Galloway. He is in NZ with Spark for Business, launching a special Mini MBA to equip business leaders for the AI age. We talk to learn what business owners would be doing now, where the world of AI is at, and what you can do to take advantage of the biggest change to business since the cloud. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 3, 2024 • 52min
How the design lead of Slack is building the future of work
Ethan Eismann has been a design leader at Adobe, Google, AirBNB, Uber and Slack - some of the most influential companies of our age. As part of the Spark Business Lab Future State festival he spoke to us and shared his approach to design, building great design cultures, and how he has grown and supported growth in his career. World-class advice from a world leader. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 27, 2024 • 41min
Future State: The maker of ‘That Sugar Film’ on the power of ideas to fight climate change
Damon Gameau was one of the most successful actors in Australia when he made ‘That Sugar Film’, a documentary which unpacked the dangerous volume of sugar in our food system. He next turned to climate change with 2040, and joins Duncan Greive on Business is Boring to explain how to get people to pay attention to topics which require our attention, even when the topic is one we’d rather ignore. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 20, 2024 • 45min
Future State: Lessons on the power of AI, from someone who helped build it
Noelle Russell has had roles at - or contact with - most of the biggest names in artificial intelligence. She answered the bell when Jeff Bezos emailed to find a team to work on the first generation of Alexa, took a role at Microsoft as it became a powerhouse there, and latterly helped set up Accenture's AI consulting business. She joins guest host Duncan Greive on Business is Boring to talk through her life and experience, and give a primer on how individuals and organisations can start to grapple with this technology. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 13, 2024 • 48min
Future State: What does sustainability look like at IKEA scale?
Håkan Nordkvist was, until recently, head of sustainability innovation for IKEA, one of the world's largest retailers. In New Zealand for Spark Business Lab's Future State, he joins guest host Duncan Greive on Business is Boring to talk about why the role of really big business in sustainability is underrated, how you protect innovation within large organisations and breaks down which of their initiatives really worked – and why.This episode is part of Future State, a technology summit from Spark Business Lab and Semi Permanent Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 6, 2024 • 54min
Future State: Idea to Impact – understanding circular business
Bernard Hickey steps in to host a special live panel featuring three leaders in circular business, bio-materials and turning trash into treasure share their experiences in building better systems for business. Hear from Jayden Klinac of Anew, who replaces plastic with bio-materials; Sara Smeath from CiRCLR, turning waste from businesses into a resource for others, and Rachel Brown at the SBN who helps to connect and advance business practice in Aotearoa.This episode is part of Future State, a technology summit from Spark Business Lab and Semi Permanent Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 3, 2024 • 22min
Introducing Behind the Story: If you love a dog, you must also love disposing of its sh*t
The Spinoff has just launched a brand new series called Behind the Story, where site editor editor Madeleine Chapman sits down with a staff writer or contributor to gain more insight about a big story on The Spinoff from the week. We thought you might like to check out the first episode, and if you enjoy it please follow it wherever you get your podcasts!On Friday, Bulletin editor Anna Rawhiti-Connell sent her final newsletter, and took the opportunity to share what she’s learned about the news over two years of curating it for thousands of New Zealanders. Earlier in the week, she’d seen reports of Auckland dog owners discarding their pets’ turds on the ground after Auckland Council removed bins across the city.And so, the column “If you love a dog, you must also love disposing of its shit” was born. Anna joins Madeleine Chapman to talk about the power journalists have when framing a story and how to find the middle ground between boring and sensational.For The Spinoff editor’s thoughts on the week that was, as well as a handpicked collection of the week’s best reads, subscribe to The Weekend with Madeleine Chapman newsletter at thespinoff.co.nz/newsletters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 22, 2024 • 1h 2min
The new Aotearoa lead of Australasia’s biggest VC firm
Blackbird VC recently netted $800m from a sale of a portion of their holding in Canva. They are, by some distance, the largest and one of the most successful VC firms in Australasia. In Aotearoa they have backed Tracksuit, Veve, Partly and Halter and their work to lift up the venture ecosystem includes Sunrise, Startmate and the Giants programme. Phoebe Harrop is the new local lead, with a background in consulting at Bain, working for Al Gore’s investment firm Generation and a few years growing the business in NZ. She joins Simon Pound to dig into what makes a good VC investment, what makes a great founder and how does NZ stack up against Australia? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 15, 2024 • 38min
Has the AR/VR moment arrived?
Jessica Manins is a Kiwi pioneer in the Augmented and Virtual Reality space. Her studio, Beyond, makes games, experiences and virtual worlds for immersive entertainment and storytelling. They are one of the first developers to be releasing a game for the new Apple Vision Pro, and they have been leaders in shared, positive experiences in the space for years. After the pandemic stopped their business in its tracks, Jessica has totally rebuilt and (at the time of recording) has just arrived back from SXSW and GDC with the latest on where virtual worlds are now, and where they are going. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices