
Business Is Boring
Think business is boring? This podcast proves it's anything but. Join Simon Pound as he talks to everyone from accidental entrepreneurs to industry leaders about their business journeys and what propelled them to where they are today. Made in partnership with Deel.
Latest episodes

Feb 6, 2023 • 42min
Money Sweetspot is changing the finance industry for good
Why is it becoming harder to achieve debt-free status? Money Sweetspot is a new company that uses compassion and incentives to help people pay off their debts. Co-founder Sasha Lockley talks to Simon about using gamification to increase financial literacy, breaking the cycle of poverty, and how she intends to leave the finance industry better than how she found it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 30, 2023 • 45min
The app making it easier to share your Dosh
New Zealand is well behind the rest of the world when it comes to transferring money between banks. Shane Marsh and James McEniery discovered this when they were living in Singapore and started Aotearoa’s first real time payment mobile wallet. They aim to bring banking in New Zealand into the 21st century, and they chat with Simon about how they plan to do it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 23, 2023 • 1h 1min
How Garage Project pioneered the craft beer boom
When Pete Gillespie co-founded Garage Project in 2011 over 50% of craft beer in New Zealand was consumed in Wellington. Now, his passion for beer has become a national phenomenon. Pete talks us through how they brewed their success, constant experimentation, and changing the industry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 16, 2023 • 55min
What is New Zealand's brand?
How do you go from being a local comedian to becoming CEO of the government agency charged with growing the country's global brand? Hear from David Downs, business leader, cancer survivor and CEO of The NZ Story Group. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 9, 2023 • 48min
The food hero saving Perfectly Imperfect produce
Did you know that nearly half of all produce grown in New Zealand is thrown away? When Wendy Zhou discovered the scale of food waste she created a network of growers around the country to donate their produce to her. With this produce, Wendy has gone on to create cauliflower ice-cream, gourmet tomato paste, and her charity Perfectly Imperfect. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 25, 2022 • 1h 11min
The Spinoff presents SUPERPOD 2022
SUPERPOD is back! And for 2022, we're bigger than ever! Hosted by Gone By Lunchtime's Toby Manhire and featuring Jane Yee and Alex Casey from The Real Pod, Duncan Greive from The Fold, Leonie Hayden from Nē?, Simon Pound from Business Is Boring, The Spinoff editor Madeleine Chapman and The Spinoff Podcast Network's Te Aihe Butler, SUPERPOD 2022 is our multiverse of madness. From the Black Ferns' historic win to Mike King's villainous turn on Celebrity Treasure Island, we cover the incredible highs and lows of what has been a terribly special year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 19, 2022 • 38min
Creating a community from clothes
What does it mean to truly shop sustainably? Crushes is a second hand store that is challenging the norms of consumption-hungry shopping. Stocking entirely locally made, vintage and sustainable items, Co-founder Rose Hope aims to give the consumer back the right to know exactly where their products came from. She talks with Simon about her journey, Karangahape Rd, and the success of their free clothes swap. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 13, 2022 • 40min
Finding practical solutions to help the unhoused
How can we make an actual difference in the lives of people in need? At 20 years old, Orange Sky co-founders Lucas Patchett and Nic Marchesi found themselves asking a similar question. Now, their fleet of vans that offer free laundry and shower services, as well as meaningful conversations, has helped thousands of people across Australia and New Zealand. Lucas joins Simon to discuss the impact their work has had, practical solutions and the importance of connection. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 5, 2022 • 45min
It’s time we talked about paint
Paint surrounds us for most of the day, but are you aware of the harmful petro-chemicals that are used to create it? Natural Paint Co are out to change this, offering healthier alternatives to use and live with. Co-founders Grace Glass and James Mount share their journey of taking on the status quo, and where to from here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 29, 2022 • 43min
A circular, more sustainable business model
How do New Zealanders make their businesses more sustainable? As the head of innovation at the Ellen MacArthur foundation, Ken Webster literally wrote the book on building a circular economy. He shares his insights from an overseas perspective in this special live episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices