
She Explores
Come find inspiration with women in the outdoors. Interviews, in-the-field recordings, and listener submissions make up a tapestry of episodes covering themes such as solo hiking and camping, entrepreneurship, outdoor equity, aging, conservation, motherhood, chronic illness, and more as they intersect with outdoor experiences. Hosted by Gale Straub.
Latest episodes

Feb 27, 2019 • 42min
100 - Injured & Indoors
What happens when injury sidelines you from your favorite outdoor activities.
First off, you're not alone. This episode features four nature-loving women whose injuries necessitated surgery and lots of time for rest. We talk about the mental and physical challenges, how they coped, and how it felt when they made it outside again once more.
Women featured in this episode: Hailey Hirst, Erica Aaron, Amanda Gates, and Jaime Purinton
Hosted by Gale Straub
In this episode you'll hear:
About four women's injuries and how their recoveries put them on the sidelines of their outdoor lives
How the mental challenge of healing is often harder than the physical challenge
How the women coped with the isolation, immobility, and separation from the outdoor activities they love
What it felt like when they were able to step back outside
Sponsored by NoteCast by EX-IQ & Ritual
Learn more at She-Explores.com
Join us in our She Explores Podcast Facebook Group
Sponsor Websites and Codes
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Resources
Blog post: 'How to Cope When You're Recovering Indoors'
Hailey Hirst: Instagram & Website
Erica Aaron: Instagram
Amanda Gates: Instagram
Jaime Purinton: Instagram & Hike It Off Clothing
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Music is by Josh Woodward and Kai Engel using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Feb 20, 2019 • 38min
Making Time for Nature
How to make time for nature, even in the winter season. It can be be all too easy to get into a groove that doesn't include the outdoor activities you love -- but that's OK, too. This episode shares some practical tips for experiencing nature year round.
We talk to She Explores and Women on the Road team members Noël Russell, Laura Hughes, and Hailey Hirst about how they incorporate nature into their everyday lives, and why it isn't always easy.
Women featured in this episode: Noël Russell, Laura Hughes, and Hailey Hirst
Hosted by Gale Straub
Tips for experiencing nature year round, even in winter:
Eat your meals outside
Walking your dog
Driving with your window open
Try a new activity: snowshoeing, cross country skiing, skating, ice climbing, ice fishing - for a few ideas!
Go out with a friend that loves cold weather
Treat yourself to something you love after you step outside
Read an adventurous book and experience some 'armchair' outdoor time
Sent up a tent inside!
Bring some plants into your home
Take note of the 'in-between' moments: shoveling snow, the light through the trees, a bird in the distance
In this episode you'll hear:
Nature sounds from New Hampshire and Utah!
How Noël taps into nature while living in a city
Why walking her dogs helps Noël experience nature on weekdays
Why it can be harder to spend time outside in the winter
Suggested new activities to try this season
Why Women on the Road podcast host Laura Hughes has conflicting feelings about winter
How hiking in Moab has helped Laura learn about her new home
Why Hailey Hirst has spent more time inside than usual this winter
How an injury can change your perspective
Advice Noël, Laura, and Hailey have for tapping into nature year round
Sponsored by NoteCast by EX-IQ
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Sponsor Website
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Resources
Noel Russell: Instagram
Laura Hughes: Instagram
Hailey Hirst: Instagram
What Hailey's reading: Girl in the Woods & Paddling North
Women on the Road: Episodes & Instagram
She Explores Book
She Explores Book Limited Edition Poster Promotion
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Music is by Lee Rosevere and Kai Engel using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Feb 13, 2019 • 47min
The Power of Storytelling: Danielle Williams & Melanin Base Camp
Stories connect us, help us learn, and help us better understand each other. Melanin Base Camp founder Danielle Williams taps into the power of storytelling to showcase the many different ways people of color and LGBTQ+ folks experience the outdoors. In this episode, we talk to Danielle and featured bloggers Nadia Mercado and Dr. Favia Dubyk.
In interviewing Danielle, there’s a lot we could dig in to. She’s a skydiver and started “Team Blackstar Skydivers,” a community for skydivers of color. She’s third generation military. She’s coping with complications from Rheumatic Fever that have left her unable to run. She’s also one of the founding members of Diversify Outdoors, a coalition of social media influencers who share the goal of promoting diversity in outdoor spaces. Their website also hosts Teresa Baker’s Outdoor CEO Diversity pledge.
For this episode, I want to highlight Danielle’s work with Melanin Base Camp and the power of storytelling, and in particular, the power of telling your own story and listening to the personal stories of others.
Women featured in this episode: Danielle Williams, Nadia Mercado, and Dr. Favia Dubyk
Hosted by Gale Straub
In this episode you'll hear:
About Danielle's early experiences running
Nadia Mercado's article "I said I Wasn't Outdoorsy, but I Lied" and how we create stories about what is outdoorsy and what isn't
The value of stories to help us understand people with different backgrounds and cultures
How Danielle's chronic illness has changed her perspective
Why Danielle started Melanin Base Camp to share the stories of people of color and the myriad of ways they experience the outdoors
Why bloggers Nadia Mercado and Dr. Favia Dubyk contribute to Melanin Base Camp
The power of storytelling to connect, to educate, and to create a historical record
About Nadia's article, "Shut Up and Climb" and why 'good vibes only' cultures in outdoor adventure sports can be destructive
What Melanin Base Camp will be focusing on in 2019
Sponsored by ThirdLove
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Sponsor Website
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Resources
Melanin Base Camp: Website, Instagram, Facebook
Team Blackstar: Community for skydivers of color founded by Danielle
Diversify Outdoors
Nadia Mercado: Instagram
Favia Dubyk: Instagram
"I Said I Wasn't Outdoorsy, But I Lied"
Shut Up and Climb
Favia's Three Part Series on Cancer and Climbing: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
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Music is by Evan Schaeffer, Nihilore, Lee Rosevere, Miss, and Kai Engel using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Feb 13, 2019 • 19min
The Pledge - Teresa Baker & Danielle Williams
What's the Outdoor CEO Diversity Pledge? Teresa Baker and Danielle Williams share why it's important for diverse people to take the lead doing the work to make the outdoors a more inclusive, equitable place for all. They also comment on the recent announcement of a CEO Outdoor Equity Pledge by Camber Outdoors.
Women featured in this minisode: Teresa Baker and Danielle Williams
Resources:
Outdoor CEO Diversity Pledge
"Camber CEO Outdoor Equity Pledge sparks major backlash" SNEWS article by James Edward Mills
Op-Ed: After the Camber Equity Pledge Blow Up
Camber Outdoors Public Apology
Camber Outdoors Public Statement
Melanin Base Camp Instagram
Melanin Base Camp Website
She Explores Podcast Facebook Group
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Music is by Mise and Nihilore using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Feb 6, 2019 • 43min
Work in Progress: RANGE Founder Jeanine Pesce
Meet Jeanine Pesce, creative connector and founder of RANGE, a creative agency and magazine inspired by the culture of the outdoor movement. We talk about how she's carved out a place for herself in the outdoor industry. We also chat about the tenth issue of RANGE Mag, centered around the theme 'Work in Progress.' RANGE contributors Rocío, Hatie, and Emily share their perspectives on the theme and the unique stories about culture, product technology, and outdoor travel that they brought to the issue.
Women featured in this episode: Jeanine Pesce, Rocío Villalobos, Hatie Parmeter, and Emily Hopcian
Hosted by Gale Straub
In this episode you'll hear:
Stories around the theme of 'work in progress'
How Jeanine Pesce started RANGE, a creative agency and magazine inspired by the culture of the outdoor movement
Why Jeanine carved out a place for herself in the outdoor industry
Why Jeanine believes in sharing her media platform with others
How Rocío Villalobos sees herself as a work in progress and why it's important for her story to reach more people, especially young women of color
Hatie Parmeter sharing a riveting story about new technology in outdoor gear
Why RANGE managing editor Emily Hopcian is passionate about writing international features
How Jeanine is working on finding more time for herself as a business owner and outdoor-lover
What's next for RANGE in 2019
Sponsored by Ritual
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Learn more at She-Explores.com
Sponsor Website
Ritual.com/explore
Resources
SNEWS article on Outdoor CEO Pledges by James Edward Mills
Outdoor CEO Diversity Pledge
RANGE Website & Instagram
RANGE Magazine Issue 10
Rocío Villalobos: Instagram
Hatie Parmeter: Instagram & Whoa Mag
Emily Hopcian: Instagram & Portfolio
José G Gonzáles: Website
Melanin Basecamp
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Music is by Jason Shaw, Mise, and Kai Engel using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Jan 23, 2019 • 51min
Trust the Timing: Ski Mountaineer Caroline Gleich
Caroline Gleich is a ski mountaineer who knows the meaning of scary but rewarding: whether she's climbing 8,000 meter mountains in the Himalayas or anticipating her future as an adventure-seeking wife and mom. Years of hard work have brought her here and while she's a self described late bloomer, Caroline's learned to trust the timing in her life.
Looking back on 2018, Caroline shared on her Instagram that she summited 72 peaks and climbed 489,704 human powered vertical feet of uphill. Included in these peaks and vertical feet was the 6th highest mountain in the world, Cho Oyu. We talked with Caroline about that climb and the family she sees in her future. Even though she’s ski mountaineered some of the tallest mountains in the world, her thoughts on fear, self-trust, and creating the life she wants for herself hit close to home.
Plus, we catch up with Karen Wang two years after we interviewed her for Episode 9, After the Pacific Crest Trail.
Women featured in this episode: Caroline Gleich and Karen Wang
Hosted by Gale Straub
The She Explores Book is now available for presale! Learn more here
In this episode you'll hear:
What surprised Caroline about her climb of Cho Oyu, the sixth highest mountain in the world
Why she continues to ski mountaineer despite the inherent risks
How altitude sickness almost cost her the summit
Why she proposed to her fiancé and not the other way around
How what she learned on Cho Oyu will help her on her spring climb of Everest
How Caroline copes with pre-trip anxiety and post-trip depression
Why getting married and planning to have kids feels scarier than a big mountaineering trip
Our up with Karen Wang two years after her "After the Pacific Crest Trail" interview
Sponsored by ThirdLove
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Learn more at She-Explores.com
Sponsor Websites and Codes
Thirdlove.com/explore: For 15% off your first purchase
Resources
Caroline Gleich: Instagram & Website
Karen Wang: Photography/Website & Blog
Episode 9 - After the Pacific Crest Trail: Karen Wang
Follow Through: A Film about Caroline by REI & Duct Tape Then Beer
Headspace App
RANGER Station Schedule at Outdoor Retailer trade show
Natives Outdoors
Flash Foxy
She Explores Book, available for Pre-order!
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Music is by Steve Combs, Mise, Josh Woodward, Evan Schaffer, and Meydan using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Jan 16, 2019 • 46min
Reading a River: Heather Hansman
Heather Hansman went on a solo pack rafting adventure for the sake of conservation. Paddling the 730 mile Green River, she learned about the future of water in the west and documented her journey in her upcoming book, Downriver: Into the Future of Water in the West.
We talk about her two month pack rafting trip, what it means to write an adventure memoir that's grounded in water conservation, and why addressing environmental issues doesn't have to be intimidating or impersonal. Planning ahead can be like reading a river, a graceful mix of intuition and problem solving.
Women featured in this episode: Heather Hansman
Hosted by Gale Straub
The She Explores Book is now available for presale! Learn more here
In this episode you'll hear:
How Heather got started as a rafting guide
Why water conservation doesn't have to be an abstract, hard to understand concept
(But why it's probably more complicated than you think )
The reason Heather wanted to pack raft the Green River
All the logistics involved in planning a 730 mile rafting trip
Heather's thoughts on adventure memoirs
Why solo isn't necessarily better when you're on an adventure
Some of the issues Heather dug into that stakeholders found with water rights in the Colorado River basin
Why river recreation is inherently tied to conservation
What we can do close to home
Sponsored by Ritual
Join us in our She Explores Podcast Facebook Group
Learn more at She-Explores.com
Resources
Heather Hansman's Website
Downriver: Into the Future of Water in the West - Available for Pre-order!
12 Essential Books on Water in the West, as recommended by Heather
She Explores Book, available for Pre-order!
If you liked this episode, you'll probably like:
Episode 56: An (Adventure) Book Club for the 21st Century
Episode 92: Quitting Can Be A Kindness - Nicole Antoinette
Episode 72: Fifty Years as an Outdoor Entrepreneur - Sheri Tingey
Episode 49: Great Lakes, Greater Goals - Traci Lynn Martin
Sponsor Websites and Codes
Ritual.com/explore
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Music is by Jason Shaw, Nihilore, and Meydan using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Dec 19, 2018 • 51min
Looking Forward in Our Outdoor Lives
We put out a call for voice submissions, asking questions like: how will you bring what you’ve learned in the outdoors this year into 2019? Are you hoping to take up a new skill? Is there anyone you want to introduce to your outdoor life? Do you have any big trips planned? Or are you embracing resources closer to home?
The answers were a resounding yes, all around.
Women featured in this episode: Marissa Priestap, Alisha M’Lot Ruby and Jenni Goldman, Rhiannon Ball, Annabel Plush, Diandra Oliver, Jennifer, Meghan Young, Hailey Hirst, Kimberly Bradley, Katarina Mulec, Rachel Friedman, Kate Rafey, Rocio, Elisa Janson, Desiree Penner, Helen Wallis, Francesca Turauskis, Teresa Benitez, Greta Matos, and Christina Hickman
Hosted by Gale Straub
In this episode you'll hear:
The question to ask yourself if you're looking to spend more time outside in 2019
Why bringing others (and pets!) out with you can be fulfilling
How fat people are claiming space for themselves in the outdoor industry (and on Mount Kilimanjaro) in 2019
How nature is healing, emotionally and physically
Why when you're recovering from an injury (and otherwise), adventure is relative
How listeners are hoping to incorporate conservation advocacy into their recreation in 2019
The specific goals and bucket we have on our minds
Why big goals are great but small goals are valuable, too
How it's difficult to balance indoor and outdoor time when you work full time
Gale's hopes for 2019 (hint, they have to do with balance, too!)
Sponsored by Benchmark Maps and Audible
Join us in our She Explores Podcast Facebook Group
Learn more at She-Explores.com
Resources
Marissa Priestap: Instagram & Blog
Rhiannon Ball: 'outdoorsy' Instagram & personal Instagram
Annabell Plush: Instagram
Diandra Oliver: Instagram, Blog, & Curvy Kili Crew
Fat Girls Hiking: Instagram & Website
Layla Cameron: Fat Hiking Club Documentary
Katarina Mulec: Instagram & Balkan River Defense
Rachel Friedman: The Ski Retreat
Elisa Janson: Blog & Women's Trail Summit
Francesca Turauskis: Seize Your Adventure Podcast
Teresa Benitez: Instagram
Greta Matos: Company she's building in Chile & Instagram
Christina Hickman: Instagram & Blog
Desiree Penner: Instagram & Art
Sponsor Websites and Codes
Benchmark Maps: Take 20% with code SHEEXPLORES at checkout
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Music is by Jason Shaw, Lee Rosevere, and Kai Engel using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Dec 5, 2018 • 53min
Quitting can be a Kindness: Nicole Antoinette
Nicole Antoinette quit her thru hike of the Pacific Crest Trail after about 1,600 miles and she's ok with calling it a failure. In fact, Nicole questions why we have to choose either success or failure. Can't we be gentler with ourselves? Can't we set out to both succeed and fail?
Nicole Antoinette has a gift for applying lessons she's learned to new chapters of life. We talk about how what she's learned in sobriety applies to distance running applies to thru hiking applies to us all.
Women featured in this episode: Nicole Antoinette.
Cameos by Carrot Quinn, Karen Wang, and Rahawa Haile
Hosted by Gale Straub
In this episode, you'll hear:
How long distance running can be a gateway to thru hiking
Physical activity as a way to cope with new sobriety
Why you don't have to be "good" at something to do it
Why growth is a value for Nicole
When making life changes is a lonely thing
Why Nicole wanted to hike the PCT on her own but also wanted a trail family
What the culture is like on the PCT
The awareness Nicole has for her body while hiking
"'Success', whatever that means"
Giving yourself room to fail (on a trail and in life)
Post-trail depression and why "this too shall pass"
The mindset of embracing "both/and" vs. "either/or" aka we don't have to be one thing
Sponsored by Benchmark Maps and Outdoor Voices
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Learn more at She-Explores.com
Resources
Nicole Antoinette's Website & Instagram
Real Talk Radio
Nicole's patreon
2019 She Explores Listener Survey
Carrot Quinn's Thru Hiking Will Break Your Heart
Carrot's episode on She Explores & Real Talk Radio
Rahawa's episode on She Explores & Real Talk Radio
Karen's episode on She Explores & Real Talk Radio
Brainstorm National Park Puzzle
Sponsor Websites and Codes
Benchmark Maps: Take 20% with code SHEEXPLORES at checkout
Outdoor Voices: Take 20% off your order of $100 or more with code EXPLORES at checkout at outdoorvoices.com/explores
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Music is by Josh Woodward and Kai Engel using a Creative Commons Attribution license.

Nov 28, 2018 • 39min
Postpartum: Kristina Frost
Becoming a new mom has changed the way Kristina Frost experiences the outdoors. And she's realizing, it's not better or worse - it's just different. The confluence of a body in healing, a child who needs constant care, and postpartum depression means her life looks little like it did a few years ago.
We talk to Kristina before and after she takes her two-month-old daughter Emma camping for the very first time.
Women featured in this episode: Kristina Frost
Hosted by Gale Straub
In this episode, you'll hear:
How Kristina compares her first backpacking experiences with being a new mom
What postpartum depression feels like to Kristina
The difference between PMDD and postpartum depression
Why Kristina feels like she's lost her outdoor community (for now)
Before and after Kristina's first camping trip with her 2 month old daughter and husband
How her body's changed after pregnancy and birth
Why Kristina feels like she has an old self and a new self and how the two might be integrated
Advice for new moms who want to take their infants camping
Why you don't have to stick to one kind of camping
Sponsored by Benchmark Maps and Sustain Natural
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Resources
Follow Kristina on Instagram: @frostkristina
Hike it Baby
Adventure Mamas
Sponsor Websites and Codes
Benchmark Maps: Take 20% with code SHEEXPLORES at checkout
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Music is by Jason Shaw and Kai Engel using a Creative Commons Attribution license.