
That’ll Preach
A podcast for Christians with questions about theology, philosophy, and practice. Biblically informed. Slightly irreverent.
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Apr 16, 2024 • 1h 2min
Masculinity, Negative World, and the Future of Evangelicalism (Interview with Aaron Renn)
Author Aaron Renn discusses the shift towards a negative worldview in Evangelicalism and how influential figures like Jordan Peterson and Jocko Willink attract Christian young men. They explore the fracture within Evangelicalism due to modern politics and the challenges of adapting to a more hostile world. The conversation also delves into the importance of excellence, ownership, and truth for Evangelicals, as well as the evolving roles of pastors and opportunities for the Church in addressing societal challenges.

Apr 9, 2024 • 56min
From Darkness to Sight: A Journey from Hardship to Healing (Interview with Dr. Ming Wang)
Stories shape us in powerful ways and remain one of the greatest mediums for communicating truth. Renowned eye surgeon Dr. Ming Wang joins us to talk about his story from persecution in China to freedom in America as well as his conversion from atheism to Christianity. We talk about his revolutionary work in the field of eye surgery to restore sight to hundreds of children around the world. We also learn about the heroic faith of the children he’s met thoughout his career who persevere with joy despite incredibly difficult circumstances. You won’t leave this episode uninspired.
Show Notes
Pre-order tickets to see Sight on May 24th and get a discount: https://www.angel.com/movies/sight
Get his biography here: https://a.co/d/aLvtiqg
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Apr 2, 2024 • 43min
Jesus Wants You to Steal From the Rich
In this episode we discuss a compelling case from the Scriptures and church theologians like John Calvin, Thomas Aquinas, and others about whether taking from the wealthy to feed the poor constitutes theft. We lay out a compelling case that God intends his creation to sustain the basic needs of his creatures. Therefore, every creature made in God’s image possesses rights over basic provisions. We also talk about Paul’s latent communism. Enjoy!
Show Notes
Purchase 50 long-lasting, insecticide-treated nets to protect those living in malaria-stricken areas from infected mosquitos—for every 600 nets distributed, one child’s life is saved and 500 cases of malaria are prevented (Against Malaria Foundation)
Deworm 200 children (Evidence Action)
Provide clean water for 70 people for one whole year (Evidence Action)
Protect 1000 people from iodine deficiency disorders (like brain damage) for a year (GAIN’s Salt Iodization Program)
Provide 4 cataract surgeries to reverse blindness (Fred Hollows Foundation)
Fund 416 antibiotic distributions to prevent blinding trachoma (Fred Hollows Foundation)
Provide vitamin A supplements to prevent 90 children from going blind (Helen Keller Foundation)
Provide 138 people with micronutrient fortification for one year (Sanku—Project Healthy Children)
Givewell.org (Charity Assessment Non-profit)
Thelifeyoucansave.org (Charity Assessment Non-profit)
Christiansforimpact.org (Christian Global Impact Non-profit)
Blessbig.org (Christian Global Impact Non-profit)
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Mar 26, 2024 • 42min
How Should Christians Think About Frozen Embryos?
There’s a lot of talk today about the ethics of frozen embryos in light of current events. This controversial subject deserves clear thinking that’s both sensitive to the real situations people encounter and the witness of the Scriptures. Paul and Bryan discuss recent documents from the Roman Catholic church, Donum Vitae and Dignitas Personae which argue against people “adopting” frozen embryos. Paul takes issue with this stance in a stimulating discussion about In Vitro Fertilization, bioethics, and the dignity of life. In short, Paul thinks the Roman Catholic church’s stance is insane. Don’t miss this episode!
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Mar 19, 2024 • 1h 25min
Uncovering the Bible of the Apostles (Interview with Dr. Greg Lanier)
What Bible did the Apostle Paul grow up reading? This complex question demonstrates the need for understanding the Septuagint, a fancy name for a stream of translations of the Hebrew Bible into Greek. Dr. Greg Lanier joins us to discuss what the Septuagint is and why it matters today. We talk about common misconceptions about the Septuagint as well as issues of textual transmission and translation. We also dive into debates about the apocrypha or “deuterocanonical” books accepted by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but rejected by Protestants. Get ready for a deep dive into history and theology. Enjoy this episode.
Show Notes
Greg’s Books
The Septuagint: What It Is and Why It Matters
Old Made New: A Guide to the New Testament Use of the Old Testament
A Christian’s Pocket Guide to How We Got the Bible
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Mar 5, 2024 • 16min
Understanding the Church Fathers for Protestants in Fifteen-ish Minutes (Podcast Recap)
Exploring the impact of history on Protestant identity, discussing views on sacraments, church governance, and Scripture. Examining perspectives of church fathers like Augustine on baptism, including debates on infant vs. believer's baptism. Delving into the evolution of the Bishop role in early church structures and the importance of theological precision. Reflecting on the significance of engaging with historical insights in modern evangelicalism.

Feb 28, 2024 • 55min
How to Communicate the Cross to a Post-Christian World (Interview with Jeremy Treat)
Jesus died on the cross for our sins, but that’s not the end of the story. Theologian and pastor Jeremy Treat joins us to talk about all the cross accomplished on our behalf and how that changes the way we communicate the gospel to a post-Christian world. We go through the three main theories of the atonement: Christus Victor, penal substitutionary atonement, and moral example and show how these integrate with one another to redeem all the aspects of our life in a fallen world. Jeremy also shares his own experience as a pastor in Los Angeles with regard to spiritual warfare, the occult, and the impact of the Enlightenment. Enjoy this episode.
Show Notes
Books by Jeremy Treat
The Atonement: An Introduction
The Crucified King
Seek First: How the Kingdom of God Changes Everything

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Feb 20, 2024 • 59min
Richard Hooker and the Solution to Radicalism (Interview with Dr. Brad Littlejohn)
Dr. Brad Littlejohn, a Reformed Anglican theologian, discusses Richard Hooker's approach to navigating tensions within the Reformation. They explore combining Protestant theology with Catholic practices for reformation. They highlight the pitfalls of radicalism in reform movements during times of social change.

Feb 13, 2024 • 60min
Why God Is Not Angry (Interview with Ryan Hurd)
We naturally understand that the phrase “God is wise” differs from “God is a rock”. One speaks formally about God and the other informally or metaphorically, but what about a less clear phrase like “God is angry?” Ryan Hurd from the Davenant Institute joins us for a provocative conversation about how God possesses zero wrath and why both “God is angry” and “God is a rock” operate as metaphors. Also, Ryan shares how the Incarnation amplifies our understanding of metaphor and draws us closer to the heart of God. We’ve also got a brand new theme song courtesy of our friend Daniel Vincent. Enjoy.
Show Notes
Pre-Order Ryan’s Davenant Institute Lecture Series “God Is”: https://davenantinstitute.org/god-is
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Feb 8, 2024 • 8min
A Crash Course on John Calvin's Theology (Podcast Recap)
Get a crash course on John Calvin’s theology based off our interview with Dr. Peter Lillback of Westminster Theological Seminary!
Check out the original interview: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thatll-preach/id1585680895?i=1000642621821
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