
That’ll Preach
A podcast for Christians with questions about theology, philosophy, and practice. Biblically informed. Slightly irreverent.
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Jun 10, 2025 • 47min
Athanasius, Incarnation, and the Renewal of the World with Jeremy Treat
In this episode, we’re joined by Jeremy Treat, pastor for preaching and vision at Reality LA and author of the new book, On the Incarnation: The Good News of Jesus for the Renewal of the World. Drawing from the brilliance of Athanasius—an early church father who defended the full divinity of Christ—Treat makes ancient theology come alive for modern readers.
We explore how Athanasius's Christ-centered theology speaks to the cosmic scope of salvation, the brokenness of our world, and the beauty of Jesus’s incarnation. Jeremy also shares how theology and pastoral ministry intersect in his own life, and why recovering the early church’s voice matters today.
Buy the Book: On the Incarnation: The Good News of Jesus for the Renewal of the World
Whether you're new to church history or looking to go deeper into the Incarnation, this episode will help you see why the theology of Athanasius still matters—and why Jesus didn’t just save souls, but came to renew everything.
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May 27, 2025 • 1h 3min
Baptists, Tradition, and the Great Retrieval with Ian Clary
Ian Clary, a historian and theologian teaching at Colorado Christian University, dives into the complexities of Baptist identity and tradition. He explores the rich connections between Baptists and early church fathers like Augustine and Aquinas. Clary questions whether modern Baptists can embrace this historical depth while retaining their unique identity. Touching on communion practices, church leadership, and the resurgence of liturgical practices, this conversation emphasizes the balance of tradition and contemporary faith. Expect lively discussions on theological retrieval and the evolving nature of church practices.

May 13, 2025 • 51min
Are Virtues Gendered? Rethinking Masculine and Feminine Formation
Paul Rezcala, a professor at the United States Air Force Academy, delves into the fascinating discussion of gendered virtues. He challenges the notion that traits like courage and wisdom are inherently masculine or feminine. The conversation explores how these qualities can be embraced by all individuals, regardless of gender. Rezcala critiques Aristotle's views and advocates for a unified moral framework that celebrates virtues such as love and compassion. The dialogue also examines how contemporary storytelling reflects these evolving perceptions in society.

Apr 29, 2025 • 57min
Triune Relations: Rediscovering the Heart of Trinitarian Doctrine with Blair Smith
How do we understand the relationship between the Persons of the Trinity—and why does it matter?
We sit down with Dr. Blair Smith, President of RTS Charlotte to talk about the centrality of the Trinity to Christian faith and practice, common misconceptions about “eternal generation”, modern misunderstandings about hierarchy and subordination in the Trinity, and how a Trinitarian theology transforms our prayer life. If you care about understanding God rightly—and living in deeper communion with Him—you don’t want to miss this episode.
🔗 Resources and Links:
RTS Charlotte: rts.edu/campuses/charlotte
Blair Smith Faculty Page: https://rts.edu/people/dr-d-blair-smith/rts.edu/charlotte/faculty
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Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 23min
Baptism in the Early Church: History, Households, and Justin Martyr with Andrew Koperski
In this episode, we’re joined by Andrew Koperski (Hillsdale College, Ad Fontes) to explore one of the most debated and often misunderstood practices in the history of Christianity: baptism. Drawing from his in-depth research, Andrew takes us through the earliest Christian sources—from Second Temple Judaism to Justin Martyr, and from household baptisms to the evolving liturgical traditions of the early church.
We discuss:
Did the earliest Christians baptize infants or only professing believers?
How did the theology of the church fathers evolve and adapt to the shifting environment of the Roman Empire?
What role does sociology play in the development of infant baptism?
Why modern categories of “credobaptist” and “paedobaptist” may not neatly map onto the early church.
Resources from this episode:
Justin Martyr: Ostensible Credobaptist?
https://adfontesjournal.com/andrew-koperski/justin-martyr-ostensible-credobaptist/
Baptismal Trajectories in Early Christianity (Part I): The Liturgical Dark Age & Second Temple Judaism
https://adfontesjournal.com/church-history/baptismal-trajectories-in-early-christianity-part-i-the-liturgical-dark-age-and-second-temple-judaism/
Part II: Households, Tertullian, and Archeology
https://adfontesjournal.com/church-history/baptismal-trajectories-in-early-christianity-part-ii-households-tertullian-and-archeology/
Part III: Toward an Explanation
https://adfontesjournal.com/church-history/baptismal-trajectories-in-early-christianity-part-iii-toward-an-explanation/
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Apr 1, 2025 • 48min
Why Shared Leadership Builds Stronger Churches with Dave Harvey
Dave Harvey, President of The Great Commission Collective and author of 'The Plurality Principle', discusses the transformative power of shared leadership in churches. He argues that it's not just advisable but biblically essential, navigating the dynamics of elder accountability and the pitfalls of singular leadership. Dave shares insights on preventing burnout and promoting a thriving leadership team. He also emphasizes the importance of regular assessments and relationships to combat the loneliness often felt by lead pastors, ensuring a healthy church culture.

Mar 18, 2025 • 22min
Fasting to Draw Near: An Ash Wednesday Reflection
In this episode, we explore the significance of Ash Wednesday and the season of Lent—40 days of repentance, mourning, and fasting in preparation for Easter. Drawing parallels to an athlete’s disciplined training, we discuss how fasting trains us to rely on God’s Word rather than our appetites. Jesus Himself calls us to fast, and through this practice, we create space for prayer, reflection, and repentance. We dive into the deeper purpose of fasting, how it sharpens our prayers, and how it helps us live in greater dependence on God.
Show Notes
Listen to Jay’s Interview: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thatll-preach/id1585680895?i=1000697624037
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Mar 4, 2025 • 58min
Lent: Beyond Social Media – The Discipline of Fasting with Jay Thomas
Jay Thomas, Rector of St. Mark’s Anglican Church, shares his insights on Lent as a time for genuine discipline and reliance on God, rather than just giving up social media. He discusses the rich history and misconceptions of fasting, emphasizing its role in nurturing personal growth and dependence on Christ. The conversation also delves into the importance of fostering community, contrasts traditional fasting practices with modern views, and highlights the transformative power of spiritual disciplines during this reflective season.

Feb 25, 2025 • 25min
How to Enjoy Reading the Bible
Struggling to stay consistent in your Bible reading? Feeling stuck in your spiritual growth? In this episode, we explore how to cultivate a deep, sustainable joy in God’s Word—no guilt trips, just practical tools to help you engage Scripture in a way that sticks. From biblical meditation to church resources, we’ll show you how method fuels motivation.
Show Notes
Recommended Resource: Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life by Don Whitney – Get it here
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Feb 11, 2025 • 1h 6min
Equipping the Church Worldwide: Building Seminaries and Training Leaders with John Miller
What if every pastor had access to deep, biblical theological training—no matter where they lived?
In this episode, we sit down with John Miller, Vice President and Academic Dean at Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary, whose mission is nothing short of transformational. With a burning passion to equip indigenous pastors, John is spearheading efforts to plant seminaries around the world, ensuring that church leaders in Africa, Asia, and beyond have the theological foundation they need to shepherd their congregations faithfully.
John shares his personal journey—how God led him from the classroom to the frontlines of global theological training. He paints a picture of the urgent need for solid biblical education in regions where pastors often lead churches with little to no formal training. We’ll hear powerful stories from his work overseas, the challenges of building sustainable seminaries, and why equipping local leaders is the key to lasting gospel impact.
Show Notes
International Seminary Affiliates – Explore the global seminaries where John Miller teaches and trains pastors. Learn More
Theological Training in Kenya – Discover TPC (The Pastor’s College), where John teaches and advises. Visit TPC
Global Seminaries:
Facultad Teológica Bautista – Training pastors in Colombia. Website
Seminario Bautista Confesional Ecuador – Equipping church leaders in Ecuador. Facebook
Seminário Batista Confessional Brasil – Strengthening Reformed theology in Brazil. Website
Seminario Bautista Confesional México – Training indigenous pastors in Mexico. Website
Seminario Bautista Confesional Chile – Biblical training for pastors in Chile. Website
Lusaka Ministerial College – Theological education for pastors in Zambia. Website
Lux In Tenebris Reformed – Gospel-centered training in Nigeria. Website
Spanish Resources – Legado Bautista Confesional is translating and publishing key theological works into Spanish. Explore More
For more details on how you can support or get involved, visit Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary.
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