

Second Nature
Dylan Bowman & Aaron Lutze
The business of outdoor hosted by Aaron Lutze & Dylan Bowman
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Jul 12, 2024 • 59min
Outdoor Business Trade Offs & Bandit Running's Big Win
Second Nature is a weekly podcast about the business of outdoor, action, and endurance sports, hosted by Dylan Bowman and Aaron Lutze. In this week's episode we catch up on our recent projects for Freetrail and Super Rider. Then we debrief on episode #15 with Kyle Siegel, exploring some takeaways from Raide Research's strategy. Then we talk about Bandit Running's recent brand activation around the US Olympic Trials and finish with Brand Product Content. Links: FOLLOW OUR LINKEDIN PAGE FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER Setting the Table Freetrail bucket hat

Jun 28, 2024 • 1h 9min
Starting an Outdoor Brand: Raide Research
In this episode, we dive deep with the founder of Raide Research, a new brand in the outdoor space. Kyle Siegel has a wide-ranging resume from Space X to Snapchat to North Face and DB. He breaks down everything it took to get Raide off the ground - and where he's going to go with it now that he's got things in motion. A big thank you to Kyle for willing to break down all the hard lessons he's learned so far on his journey. For many of us in the outdoor industry (and those wanting to join), the dream of starting a brand is a constant theme - and Kyle shares the realities of chasing this dream, and all the "fun" that comes with it. Raide Research: www.raideresearch.com Kyle's BPC: Liquid Death is giving away a fighter jet - https://liquiddeath.com/pages/winajet The Pepsi / Jet Fighter documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzS8BQBcAu4 Aaron's BPC: Yuka app - htpps://yuka.io/en Rebranding PopTarts: https://www.instagram.com/p/C33eXhQx9a7/ Sign up for our newsletter: http://www.secondnature.media

Jun 21, 2024 • 1h 15min
Athletes Transcending Sport, Shaun White, Snow League, & Nyjah Huston
Second Nature is a weekly podcast about the business of outdoor, action, and endurance sports, hosted by Dylan Bowman and Aaron Lutze. In this week's episode we explore the theme of athletes who have transcended their sports. We talk about Shaun White's recent announcement of a new winter sports league, Michael Johnson's Grand Slam Track, and Nyjah Huston's impact on skateboarding. Links: FOLLOW OUR LINKEDIN PAGE FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER

Jun 14, 2024 • 1h 8min
Red Bull Rampage, Unbound Gravel, & The Rise of Disruptor Brands
Second Nature is a weekly podcast about the business of outdoor, action, and endurance sports, hosted by Dylan Bowman and Aaron Lutze. In this week's episode we talk about the UCI World Cup, Red Bull Rampage, Unbound Gravel, and the rise of disruptor brands. As usual, we finish with Brand, Product, Content (BPC). Links: SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER Commencal Bikes XGames Real MTB Speedland Footwear

Jun 7, 2024 • 1h 16min
Building An Outdoor Media Empire - Ryan Thrower
If you've listened to or watched any trail running content in the past few years, there's roughly a one in three chance that Ryan Thrower had something to do with it. In this episode of Second Nature, we talk about how he got into the outdoor industry as a founding member of the Freetrail media empire, and how developing a durable skill like photography and videography helped open some big doors along the way. Ryan's BPC: @JomboyMedia - @TalkinBaseball Aaron's BPC: @digspaghetti video breakdown of Make It Count: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYE4Xq_-kY0 Here's the link to the original @casey Make It Count video if you haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxfZkMm3wcg Sign up for our newsletter: http://www.secondnature.media Hit us up on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSXVbGBLcdA

May 31, 2024 • 1h 20min
The Playbook For Outdoor Events: Tim Tollefson
"If you want to have an incredible event experience, go to an event run by an athlete." That was the advice that Rebecca Rusch offered up in Episode 9 of Second Nature, so on this episode, we're speaking with trail running legend Tim Tollefson about mammoth trailfest. As an athlete, he's built this event from scratch, and now he's here to share everything he's learned - which would apply to anyone trying to start their own event, no matter the sport. mammoth trailfest.: https://www.mammothtrailfest.com/ Tim's BPC: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7MrwPuxQFU/?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng== Aaron's BPC: https://content.rapha.cc/us/en/story/laels-ride-around-the-world Check out Lael Wilcox: https://www.instagram.com/laelwilcox/ Sign up for our newsletter: http://www.secondnature.media Follow us on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media

May 24, 2024 • 1h 15min
#10 | Audience Led Products, Camp Strava, & TrailCon
Second Nature is a weekly podcast about the business of outdoor, action, and endurance sports, hosted by Dylan Bowman and Aaron Lutze. In this week's episode we talk about Aaron's podcast with Rebecca Rusch and some of the top takeaways, Freetrail's launch of TrailCon last week, audience led products with athletes and influencers, Camp Strava, and finish with Brand, Product, Content (BPC). Links: SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TrailCon Follow @kweinbydesign

May 17, 2024 • 1h 14min
#9 Rebecca Rusch | Outdoor Industry Legend
Rebecca Rusch is a legend in the outdoor industry. She has conquered and become world champion in multiple outdoor and endurance sports as an athlete, and along the way has blazed a meaningful trail for athletes who aspire to follow her footsteps with their own careers, businesses, events, charities, speaking engagements and Emmy award-winning films. In this episode, Rebecca opens up about her journey, the lessons she's learned along the way, and gives us a glimpse into what's on the horizon. I had the pleasure of working with Rebecca as her Athlete Marketing Manager during our time together at Red Bull, and it has been fascinating to watch her career develop over the years. This week's Brand, Product, Content: - Rebecca: The Outside Festival - Aaron: The Best Marketing Strategy Ever Follow Rebecca Rebecca's Private Idaho Gravel Event Blood Road Film Second Nature Instagram Second Nature Newsletter

May 10, 2024 • 1h 5min
#8 | Creator Lessons, Athlete Retirement, On Running Performance Outdoor Job
Second Nature is a weekly podcast about the business of outdoor, action, and endurance sports, hosted by Dylan Bowman and Aaron Lutze. In this week's episode we talk about Aaron's trip to Europe, where he collected his YouTube silver play button, fatherhood's impact on career, Andre Agassi's book and athlete retirement, the Director of Performance Outdoor job at On running, and finished with Brand/Product/Content (BPC). Links: SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER Andre Agassi's book Open Director Product Strategy Performance Outdoor Citymapper App Malbon Golf The Golfer's Journal Podcast with Stephen Malbon

May 3, 2024 • 1h 3min
Mike Rogge | Editor & Owner of Mountain Gazette
Mike Rogge is the Editor/Owner of Mountain Gazette, a print publication celebrating mountain sports and outdoor culture. The magazine has a long and fascinating history, which we discuss in the show. Mike took over as the owner in 2020 and has overseen a revitalization of the brand, enjoying tremendous growth in his years at the helm. This episode was recorded at the end of September 2023, just before the 200th edition of the magazine. MG #201 is expected to ship in the next week or so. Go subscribe now! Topics discussed: Mike's personal history Mountain Gazette's legacy Investing in print when the medium was shrinking Buying Mountain Gazette vs. building his own brand Editorial style of the magazine The large format Subscription vs. advertising revenue The Mountain Gazette team and operation A lot more!


