FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

Explore the complex journey of burnout recovery as Sarah helps Janine navigate her struggles during medical leave. They discuss the guilt of leaving teammates behind, the uncertainties of returning to a toxic work culture, and the crucial importance of trusting one’s own intuition. Janine learns that even small actions, like uninterrupted reading, are profound steps toward self-leadership. This heartfelt conversation highlights the messy reality of recovery, reminding listeners that rest is not something to earn but something to embrace.

Grammy Award-winning producer Barry Goldstein joins Cait Donovan to discuss the therapeutic power of music for burnout recovery. He reveals how the pressures of the New York music scene led him to rediscover joy through composing at 60 beats per minute. Barry explains 'acoustoceuticals'—music designed to calm the nervous system—and how entrainment aligns heart and body rhythms. They also explore the importance of personal music preference in healing and practical routines to integrate music into daily life for wellness.

Emily Slachetka, a graduate of the Unfried program, shares her personal journey through burnout and recovery. She discusses the signs of burnout that initially went unnoticed and the revelation that her real struggle stemmed from over-functioning, not a toxic workplace. Emily emphasizes the importance of 'life pruning' and how asking for help transformed her experience. She also highlights the joy in embracing simpler moments and reconnecting with her core values, reminding listeners that recovery can start with small, intentional choices.

Mita Mallick, an author and changemaker known for transforming workplace cultures, discusses the hidden dangers of toxic leadership. She recounts her personal burnout experience with a boss nicknamed "Medusa" and emphasizes the need for self-reflection in recognizing and addressing unhealthy work environments. Mita advocates for collective responsibility in shaping workplace cultures and reflects on the transformative impact of authentic leadership. The conversation navigates the fine line between urgency and burnout, urging leaders to foster connections and self-awareness.

In this enlightening discussion, Jerry Colonna, an executive coach and author, shares his journey from a high-achieving venture capitalist to a man confronting the weight of burnout. He delves into radical self-inquiry as a means to reclaim authenticity, challenging the damaging ties of perfectionism. Jerry emphasizes the healing power of listening and being present, illustrating how these practices foster connection and encourage personal growth. His reflections on privilege and community highlight the intricate balance between societal pressures and individual agency.

Burnout recovery takes center stage as Sarah Vosen coaches a guest trapped in perfectionism and self-criticism. Real-time coaching reveals the emotional toll of constantly pleasing others and the struggle to say no. They explore the balance between ambition and self-compassion, addressing the fear of boundaries and the importance of community support. Listeners gain insights on how small acts of courage—like asking for help—can shift the focus from self-judgment to healing, emphasizing that recovery is a messy but worthwhile journey.

Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried]Burnout reaches far beyond the office, touching every layer of health, purpose, and identity, and Dr. Jen Wagner joins Cait Donovan to uncover what true recovery really looks like. As Chief Health and Performance Officer at Canyon Ranch, Dr. Wagner brings both professional expertise and lived experience, sharing how her own burnout as a young physician and mother reshaped her path and deepened her commitment to helping others heal. Together, she and Cait explore why burnout isn’t just mental exhaustion but a full-body, whole-life disruption that can strip away joy, relationships, and meaning.This episode shines a light on Canyon Ranch’s integrative model of care, where labs, glucose and cortisol monitoring, nutrition, mental health, and spiritual practices come together to give people the tools and support they need to rebuild. Recovery, they emphasize, is not an overnight solution but a 12 to 18 month journey of self-awareness, community, and purpose realignment. Along the way, they tackle the systemic pressures that push women leaders to the brink and the cultural belief that suffering through misery is a badge of honor. What emerges is a powerful reminder that joy and well-being are not luxuries but essentials, and that choosing recovery is one of the most important investments we can make in ourselves and the people we love.Episode Breakdown:00:00 Meet Dr. Jen Wagner and the Burnout Retreat03:28 How Burnout Reshapes Body, Identity, and Purpose04:35 Recovery vs. Prevention of Burnout06:56 Medical Testing and Biomarkers That Matter10:18 Integrative Care and Community at Canyon Ranch13:53 Dr. Jen Wagner’s Personal Burnout Story22:09 Inside the Burnout Retreat Experience29:12 Long-Term Recovery and Ongoing SupportConnect with Dr. Jen Wagner:Canyon Ranch Canyon Ranch: Beat BurnoutFollow Canyon Ranch on Instagram LinkedInConnect with Cait:Initial Call with CaitInitial Call with SarahBurnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried]Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

Burnout recovery often requires a supportive environment and self-reflection. Most people face a timeline of 12 to 18 months, influenced by emotional and identity shifts. Challenges like letting go of a dream job or caregiving responsibilities can prolong recovery. The podcast dives into these key factors, emphasizing the importance of boundaries and how relationships may evolve unexpectedly. Ultimately, burnout can lead you toward a more fulfilling life, making the challenging journey worthwhile.

Feeling stuck by burnout? Discover the 'Worst Case Scenario' exercise, a powerful tool to confront fears and navigate tough decisions. This method helps you explore worst-case outcomes and action plans, giving you confidence to move forward. With insights on seeking support from unexpected places, like local librarians or Facebook groups, you'll learn that recovery is a journey best taken with a little help. Ready to tackle those daunting decisions head-on?

Sarah Vosen, Director of Coaching at Burn Bold and acupuncturist, shares her journey through burnout recovery. She highlights the dangers of hyper-independence and why even coaches need support. With her personal story, she emphasizes how asking for help can shift one’s healing process. Sarah also introduces Qigong practices, like 'pulling down heavens,' which use breath and movement to restore energy flow. Her insights encourage listeners to embrace support and make mindful practices a staple in their recovery.