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User Interviews
Welcome to Awkward Silences by User Interviews, where we interview the people who interview people. Listen as we geek out on all things UX research, qualitative data, and the craft of understanding people to build better products and businesses. Hosted by Erin May and Carol Guest, VPs of growth/marketing and product at User Interviews. Take this survey and let us know what topics you want to hear next! userinterviews.com/awkwardsurvey
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May 18, 2021 • 37min
#67 - Growing a UX Research Startup with Basel Fakhoury of User Interviews and Benjamin Humphrey of Dovetail
In this special episode, two UXR CEOs geek out about their work, the challenges of building tools for user researchers, and the future of UX research tools.This week we’re mixing things up a bit. Basel Fakhoury, CEO and cofounder of User Interviews, and Benjamin Humphrey, CEO and cofounder of Dovetail, braved transpacific timezone scheduling to chat about starting a company in the UX research space, what their teams are working on now, and what they think the future holds for user research tools.Their conversation is available as both a video recording and an audio episode, so go ahead and pick your poison!Basel and Benjamin talked about…How User Interviews and Dovetail beganThe future of the UX research software spaceHow they think about the value of UX researchHighlights[2:15] How User Interviews and Dovetail began.[9:22] User research tools take a whole lot of user research to build. [13:32] What’s behind the rise of user research?[18:32] How do researchers measure the effectiveness of their work?[26:18] Where does user research fit into an organization?[32:07] What’s next for Basel and Benjamin?About our guestsBasel Fakhoury is the CEO and co-founder of User Interviews. User Interviews’ goal is to help companies make smarter decisions by connecting them with consumers who are interested in sharing their feedback on your products and ideas. The User Interviews platform simplifies the entire process of recruiting, vetting, and scheduling qualified participants for product tests and market research interviews.Benjamin Humphrey is the CEO and co-founder of Dovetail. Dovetail helps you store, analyze, and collaborate on user research in one place, making it easy to see patterns, discover insights, and decide what to do next. Thousands of researchers, designers, and product managers use Dovetail worldwide.

May 4, 2021 • 40min
#66 - Agile Research Ops with Joey Encarnacion of Slack
How do you measure success in a still-evolving field? Joey Encarnacion has been working in research ops since 2017. He joined Erin and JH on the pod to talk about Slack’s Rolling Research program, what success looks like for his team, and how he builds systems that scale.Joey discussed…Ensuring research ops can scale by building the smallest operable system firstHow he measures the success of his efforts in such a new field Slack’s Rolling Research programHighlights[2:14] Research operations as connective tissue within an organization.[8:45] To make your operations scalable, build the smallest operable system first.[16:34] Slack's Rolling Research Program.[21:54] How Joey knows if his research ops program is working.[24:48] Trends in participant recruitment during the pandemic.[28:08] Research ops as a signal that user research as a field is growing in importance. [36:08] How to measure success in research ops.[36:42] Checking your biases in civic research.About our guestJoey Encarnacion is a Research Operations leader (Twitch, Slack, Airbnb). He has been working in research operations since 2017. He’s a black belt cat herder and loves bringing organization to chaos.

Apr 30, 2021 • 8min
#65 - The Best of Awkward Silences (So Far)
To celebrate our launch on Product Hunt, we're taking some time to reflect on what Awkward Silences is all about. Guests featured in this episode, in order:Jon Macdonald, Founder of the GoodCat Noone, CEO of StarkRoy Opata Olende, Research Operations Manager at ZapierMaria Rosala, User Experience Specialist at Nielsen Norman GroupJoel Klettke, Founder of Case Study BuddyErika Hall, Co-Founder and Director of Strategy at Mule DesignHarrison Wheeler, Senior Manager, Product Design at LinkedIIn

Apr 20, 2021 • 43min
#64 - Civic Tech with Cyd Harrell
Whether you’re paying a parking ticket or getting a divorce, chances are high that you’ll go through some (if not all) of that process online. Chances are also good that the UX of that process will be… not great. Cyd Harrell wants to change that.Cyd—prominent Civic Design Consultant and Service Design Lead at the Judicial Council of California—has been working in civic tech since 2012. She’s passionate about helping governments create digital services that meet people where they are. In this episode, Cyd joins Erin and JH to talk about her past projects, navigating the public sector, what inspired her to get involved in civic tech, and how people can contribute to the field. Cyd talked about…The unique difficulties that come with designing for the public sectorThe importance of creating equitable digital experiences How to get started in civic tech, even if you don’t codeHighlights[1:23] Civic tech, explained. [4:09] Metrics for public services have to be different from the private sector because growth really isn't the focus. [7:54] How Cyd got started in civic design.[13:23] Cyd talks through a project she worked on for California’s court system.[22:13] How do civic tech projects get started anyway? [32:46] How to work with stakeholders in the public sector.[36:42] Checking your biases in civic research.Resources mentioned in the episodeUS government agenciesU.S. Digital ResponseCode for America and Code for [Insert your city]U.S. Digital Service18FConsultancies that work with the US governmentA1MBloom WorksNavaPluribus DigitalCommunities, conferences, books, etc.Cyd’s book: A Civic Technologist’s Practice GuideRosenfeld Media’s Civic Design 2021Code for America’s Slack channels#CivicTech on TwitterAbout our guestCyd Harrell is Chief Digital Services Officer for the City and County of San Francisco and on the Board of Directors for Technologists for Public Good. She has previously worked at Code for America, 18F, and Charles Schwab doing UX, research, and product work. She’s the author of A Civic Technologist’s Practice Guide. Her favorite tools are empathy and duct tape.

Apr 6, 2021 • 43min
#63 - Information Architecture in UX with Page Laubheimer of NN/g
Information architecture is everywhere. Page Laubheimer, Senior User Experience Specialist at Nielsen Norman Group, joins our hosts to shed some light on the complicated topic of IA and how the way we organize data impacts how we interact with products. He explains how and when to do IA work on a UX project, which research methods you’ll need, and how to launch your IA career.Page talked about…How and when to do IA work on a UX projectWhich research methods you’ll need to use to improve your IAHow to launch your IA careerHighlights[1:15] What is information architecture anyway?[10:07] Why IA is the eternally relevant UX discipline.[12:40] The term "architecture" makes many people think IA has to come first, but this isn't always the case.[23:17] How Page got started in IA.[27:11] What kind of research do you need to do to create good IA?[36:00] If you're doing IA as a part of your UX work, take some time to really focus on words.About our guestPage Laubheimer is a Senior User Experience Specialist at Nielsen Norman Group. His background in library and information science helps him create usable and organized interfaces. At NN/g he performs independent research, leads courses and seminars, and works with clients to create well organized UX.

Mar 23, 2021 • 36min
#62 - The State of User Research with Katryna Balboni
Our third annual State of User Research survey gathered insights from 525 people who do research around the world. Katryna Balboni, our Content Director, joined the hosts of Awkward Silences to talk about how the 2021 report came together. They discussed the challenges of survey design, the changing landscape of user research, improving stakeholder buy-in for user research, and (nerd alert!) large-scale medieval surveys.In this episode, Katryna talks about…How we (re)designed our survey and distributed it to user researchersThe relationship between stakeholder buy-in and UX researcher job fulfillmentGetting philosophical about survey distribution and representative audiencesThe “Great Survey” and Domesday Book of 1086 ⚔️Read the full report: The State of User Research 2021Highlights[8:20] Thinking about ways to improve survey distribution for a more diverse audience—and the implications that has on how representative that makes the results.[11:40] On average, researchers rated their fulfillment at work as 6.4/10. How does stakeholder buy-in and engagement with UX research affect that score? [18:51] A staggering 90% of user researchers said they worked exclusively remotely since the pandemic began. How has that affected research? [27:00] How to get stakeholders engaged with research by involving them early and often.[28:34] 34% of people who do research start planning their research sessions 2-4 weeks in advance. We ask: Will we see that timeline shrink in the future?[32:20] Survey nerds need to know about the Domesday Survey of 1086, and Katryna’s here to tell you about it.Resources mentioned in the episodeThe State of User Research 2021 Report6 Strategies for Doing Faster User Research—Without Sacrificing ValidityHow to Organize, Automate, and Tidy Up your User ResearchResearch Ops: What It Is, Why It's So Important, and How to Get StartedEp #15: Kate Towsey on Starting a Research Ops PracticeHistory Extra podcast: Domesday Book: Medieval big data*About our guestKatryna Balboni is a marketer by day, thankless servant to cats Elaine Benes and Mr. Maxwell Sheffield by night. Loves to travel, has a terrible sense of direction. Bakes a mean chocolate tart, makes a mediocre cup of coffee. She is leads Creative Content & Special Projects at User Interviews.*Psst—Katryna here… Bonus extra fun fact that I forgot to mention: In the 11th century, many rents were paid in kind (i.e. not with money). One of the most common forms of payment was eels. Yes, as in the slippery fish. Domesday data shows that people in England paid their landlords over 500,000 eels each year. 🐟🐍

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Mar 9, 2021 • 48min
#61 - The Role of Research in CX Transformation with Kim Salazar of Nielsen Norman Group
Learn about the importance of breaking down silos in CX transformation, refining, rebuilding, or remodeling strategies, making a 'casserole of data' for insights, and showing the business impact of poor experiences to stakeholders. Discover the significance of diverse metrics in measuring CX transformation, the value of including the SUS metric in evaluations, and blending qualitative and quantitative methods in research.

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Feb 18, 2021 • 47min
#60 - Discovery Research and Interview Skills with Maria Rosala of Nielsen Norman Group
Are your research discoveries really discoveries? Or are you collecting validation for your own assumptions?That’s just one of the big questions Maria Rosala, Director of Research at Nielsen Norman Group, tackled in our second-ever live “podinar.” Maria shared her expertise on conducting thoughtful discovery research and user interviews.Listen to (or watch!) the episode to learn:Why the discovery process is a non-negotiable part doing quality user research Maria’s favorite discovery methodsHow to get stakeholder buy-inTips for conducting better, more insightful interviews& more...Highlights[00:01:33] What exactly is discovery research?[00:04:41] Are your discoveries really discoveries? Maria explains what many research teams get wrong about the discovery process.[00:12:16] The importance of evangelizing the discovery process to get the buy-in you need.[00:16:40] Does discovery research have to be a big, lofty undertaking? Maria shares how teams can adapt the process to the needs and constraints of their project.[00:24:25] How do you know when you’ve gathered enough insights? How many people do you need to talk to?[00:30:02] How to use an interview guide (not a script) for better user interviews.[00:32:04] Recommended tools and processes for analysing discovery research results.[00:34:36] Discovery research for B2B software.[00:40:04] Measuring the ROI of discovery research.

Feb 1, 2021 • 28min
#59 - Ethical Hacking, Information Security, and UX with Ted Harrington of ISE
Building great products is hard. Building great, secure, products is even harder. This week on Awkward Silences, we talked to Ted Harrington about the intersection between security and UX. He outlined what exactly ethical hackers do, how he challenges stakeholder assumptions about security work, and what teams can do to ensure their systems are secure.Ted talked about…What UX and security work have in commonHow teams can ensure their work is more secureSome of the common issues and myths he encountersHighlights[2:53] In both UX and hacking, bad systems are built on bad assumptions.[8:04] How stakeholder research helps security teams understand what data they need to protect.[14:10] How security teams deal with psychological acceptability in their work.[22:58] Making security matter to the user is a huge part of ensuring more secure practices.About our guestTed Harrington is the author of HACKABLE: How to Do Application Security Right and the Executive Partner at Independent Security Evaluators (ISE), the company of ethical hackers famous for hacking cars, medical devices, and password managers. He’s helped hundreds of companies fix tens of thousands of security vulnerabilities, including Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Netflix, and more.

Jan 19, 2021 • 28min
#58 - The Lone UXR: Being a UX Research Team of One with Izzy Nichols
Being a research team of one isn’t easy. When you’re the only researcher at a company, you have to do every type of research, recruiting, planning, and analysis by yourself—all without the resources of a large team. But for Imani “Izzy” Nichols, being a UX research team of one is an exciting challenge. She’s been a team of one twice now and has learned a lot from her experience. In this episode of Awkward Silences, Izzy talked about how being a team of one allowed her to focus on championing research, leveling up her career in meaningful ways, and growing her skills.Izzy talked about…How she finds mentors and a sense of community.How to educate your teammates about the differences between market and UX research.How to conquer the inevitable imposter syndrome that comes with being the first and only researcher.Highlights[4:16] Doing UX research as an introvert.[9:20] Level up by finding good UXR mentors outside your organization.[13:55] The biggest challenge of being the first and only researcher is educating the company about what UX research is—and why it matters.[17:53] There are a lot of benefits to working in a team, like each member having expertise in a specific area.[23:21] Conquering imposter syndrome.Resources mentioned in the episodeHexagon UXDesign for Good Nikki AndersonKevin Liang About our guestImani “Izzy” Nichols is the Founder & Principal Researcher at Yzzi Research. There, she uses her research skills to help businesses understand her customers. She also coaches aspiring UX researchers to help them break into UXR and has her own podcast. She has also worked at WeWork and Octane.