

Work 20XX with Jeff Frick
Jeff Frick
Welcome to Work 20XX
A show focused on the future of work as we navigate transformational times.
I’m your host Jeff Frick.
We’ll talk to the practitioners, with 100,000s of newly empowered employees, looking for a different relationship with their employer.
We’ll talk to the technology providers, who are responding to these changing demands with new tools leveraging the latest in AI and ML.
We’ll explore the impacts of the rising tide of gig workers, solopreneurs, consultants, and 1099 services that enable them to cater to a global market.
We’ll talk to the academics, authors, and thought leaders who are helping us all get a better handle on what’s really going on, and what it means to each of us.
Our goal is to bring you the human story behind the issues, the context, and the relevance in the spirit of sharing best practices and experiences so we can all contribute to making the future of work better for people, organizations, and our world.
A show focused on the future of work as we navigate transformational times.
I’m your host Jeff Frick.
We’ll talk to the practitioners, with 100,000s of newly empowered employees, looking for a different relationship with their employer.
We’ll talk to the technology providers, who are responding to these changing demands with new tools leveraging the latest in AI and ML.
We’ll explore the impacts of the rising tide of gig workers, solopreneurs, consultants, and 1099 services that enable them to cater to a global market.
We’ll talk to the academics, authors, and thought leaders who are helping us all get a better handle on what’s really going on, and what it means to each of us.
Our goal is to bring you the human story behind the issues, the context, and the relevance in the spirit of sharing best practices and experiences so we can all contribute to making the future of work better for people, organizations, and our world.
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Aug 9, 2025 • 15min
Liam Martin: Community Retreat, Remote, AI | Work 20XX Ep55
Liam Martin shared his full circle moment with me at Running Remote, almost 5 years to the day he was forced to cancel Running Remote’s last visit to Austin, April 2020. With prior stops in Lisbon and Montreal, Running Remote’s return to Austin was a community fest. Remote first organizations focus more on in-house retreats than anyone outside of the actual travel industry. Industry leaders needed their own retreat. And Running Remote was born in 2018. After the reflection, the conversation turned to the future, and the intersection of remote management practices, AI adoption, and the impact of hiring the ‘best for the job’ AI proficient talent, regardless of location. Please join me in welcoming Liam Martin to the Work 20XX Podcast. Editor’s Note: Recorded 2025-April-30 at the Running Remote conference in Austin, Texas. Special thanks to Liam, Egor, Ana, and Team Running Remote. Liam Martin: Community Retreat, Remote, AI | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep55 from Running Remote 2025 Austin #RemoteWork #RunningRemote #AI #Leadership #CommunityBuilding #FutureOfWork #RemoteTeams #GlobalTalent #WorkplaceInnovation #ScalingBusiness #HybridWork #SaaS #DigitalNomads #Entrepreneurship #RiskTaking #EventManagement #BusinessGrowth #Digital #Distributed #Remote #Hybrid #Office #FoW #Workplace #TechnologyAdoption #RemoteFirst #EmployeeEngagement #WorkplaceCulture #Interview #Podcast #Work20XX YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOKJ7j_yqNM&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt&ab_channel=TurntheLenswithJeffFrick Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here https://www.work20xx.com/episode/liam-martin-community-retreat-remote-ai-work-20xx-ep55

Aug 7, 2025 • 10min
Michael Melen: Talent Pool, Growth Opportunity | Work 20XX Ep54
Mike Melen took a college side hustle, and built it into a growing global digital marketing agency. After starting full remote, Mike opened an office in Bergen County, New Jersey. Covid closed the office, and SmartSites is back to being fully remote to stay. Remote hiring opened up the available talent pool beyond his Bergen County, New Jersey. Suddenly, Mike could hire people with the special skills needed, regardless of where they plugged in their laptop. Mike learned early on that the best people want opportunities to grow, so he set an annual goal of 30% growth. He hired younger, less experienced people and invested in them to grow and advance along with the companies. Fourteen years later, SmartSites has grown to 400 people. Please join me in welcoming Mike Melen to the Work 20XX podcast. Editor’s Note: Recorded 2025-April-30 at the Running Remote conference in Austin, Texas. Special thanks to Liam, Egor, Ana, and Team Running Remote. Michael Melen: Talent Pool, Growth Opportunity | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep54 from Running Remote 2025 Austin #Remote #Digital #Distributed #Async #Work #FoW #Workplace #Talent #Career #BergenCounty #DigitalMarketing #DistributedTeams #Global #HiringStrategy #Leadership #Scaling #RemoteTeams #SmartSites #StartupJourney #TalentPool #TeamGrowth #WorkFromAnywhere #SmartSites #RunningRemote #Interview #Podcast #Work20XX YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MosbOY0uFUI&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here https://www.work20xx.com/episode/michael-melen-talent-pool-growth-opportunity-work-20xx-ep54

Aug 4, 2025 • 13min
Melinda Stallings: Positivity, PechaKucha, Gifts, Reset | Work 20XX Ep53
Melinda Stallings brings the power of positivity to the workplace and stage. Founder of The Positive Consultant and curator of DisruptHR Austin, Melinda promotes the “infinite power of positivity,” consulting with individual organizations and extending her reach as the force behind DisruptHR Austin, where she builds programs such as the 2025 theme, Envision, Empower, Elevate, helping people thrive in the workplace. I also learned about PechaKucha, a Japanese storytelling format built around the idea of “talk less, show more.” At DisruptHR, this translates into speakers having just 5 minutes, with 20 slides that auto-advance every 15 seconds. No stress there. With her focus on pausing, reflecting, reframing, and resetting, Melinda reminded me that there is usually a gift in the negative. You might not see it right away, but look no further than the Odyssean journey at the center of our best stories. There has to be some pain along the way. Please join me in welcoming Melinda Stallings to the Work 20XX Podcast. Editor’s Note: Recorded 2025-April-30 at the Running Remote conference in Austin, Texas. Special thanks to Liam, Egor, Ana, and Team Running Remote. Melinda Stallings: Positivity, PechaKucha, Gifts, Reset | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep53 from Running Remote #Positivity #Gifts #Reset #EmployeeExperience #FutureOfWork #Culture #HR #HumanCenteredLeadership #KindnessMatters #AustinTX #DisruptHR #Leadership #Digital #Distributed #Remote #Hybrid #FoW #MelindaStallings #PechaKucha #Podcast #RemoteWork #RunningRemote #Storytelling #TeamCulture #ThePositiveConsultant #Interview #Podcast #Work20XX YouTube - Click Here Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here

Aug 3, 2025 • 10min
Robert Phelps: Cybersecurity, People, Responsibility, Test | Work 20XX Ep52
Robert Phelps helps keep remote teams secure, often before they even know they’re at risk. As President of Creative IT, Robert and team provide IT services for companies that are too small to build an in-house department, or those that need a little assist. Robert and I spoke at Running Remote 2025 Austin, before his keynote, ‘The Hidden Bottleneck: Why Remote Teams Struggle to Scale (and How to Fix It Today),’ on the cybersecurity challenges of remote and distributed teams, and the responsibility for user and companies, even if most of their apps and IT are hosted at a large public cloud provider like AWS, Google Cloud, or Microsoft Azure. With the world trying to convince us to click, it comes back to people, educating, training, and as Robert stresses, testing to make sure they understand, and don’t take tempting bait. Compliance and Security, never go out of style. But the challenges and degree of difficulty only increase over time. Please join me in welcoming Robert Phelps to the Work 20XX Podcast Editors Note: Recorded 2025-April-30 at the Running Remote conference in Austin, Texas. Special thanks to Liam, Egor, Ana, and Team Running Remote. Robert Phelps: Cybersecurity, People, Responsibility, Test | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep52 from Running Remote #Bottlenecks #CARA #Cloud #CMMC #Compliance #Culture #CyberSecurity #Distributed #Enablement #Experience #FoW #IT #Monitoring #Onboarding #People #Platforms #Remote #Responsibility #Risk #Scale #SOC2 #Teams #Test #Threats #Training #Trust #Workplace #RunningRemote #MenloCreekMedia #Interview #Podcast #Work20XX YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDE6yTpz1No&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here https://www.work20xx.com/episode/robert-phelps-cybersecurity-people-responsibility-test-work-20xx-ep52

Jul 18, 2025 • 52min
Karrie Sullivan: Results, Resilient, Reluctant, Readiness | Work 20XX Ep51
Karrie Sullivan has been on the edge of digital transformation since the earliest days of digital media, with a stint at Cars.com during the late ‘90 internet boom. She knows about getting people to change behavior, to adopt the new, to do things differently. As she said, people won’t change behavior just because you ask them. People will change behavior to fit in. Especially if you hand them proven peer produced playbooks. Today, Karrie leads Culminate Strategy Group, where she and her team specialize in accelerating new technology adoption by identifying and working with key change agents. That influential 15% sits between the early adopters (the “bleeding edge” 5–7%) and the risk-averse majority (the “we’ve always done it this way” 80%). The Resilient middle 15% hold the key to broader adoption of the new, in this case, more people in the organization putting the power of AI to work for them in their daily tasks. Please join me in welcoming Karrie Sullivan to the Work 20XX podcast. In this wide ranging conversation, we cover the interaction of workplace, AI, transformation, psychology, behavioral science, change, adaptability, and a whole lot more. Karrie brings clarity to the chaos of transformation. The through line: how to increase AI adoption, and more broadly, how to assimilate change faster, so your people can do more, with less, faster, by putting the right tools to work. Karrie Sullivan: Results, Resilient, Reluctant, Readiness | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep51 YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt66YYGRCMs&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here https://www.work20xx.com/episode/karrie-sullivan-results-resilient-reluctant-readiness-work-20xx-podcast-with-jeff-frick-ep51

Jun 30, 2025 • 52min
Henrik Jarleskog: AI Squad, BarCeptionist, Full Stack Hospitality | Work 20XX Ep50
Henrik Järleskog, has been on my radar for some time. He’s an active member of the ‘future of work’ community on LinkedIn, frequently contributing articles, keynotes, posts, panel discussions, podcasts appearances and more. I knew I’d have him on eventually…. And then he dropped the post … ‘Not one hand went up’ And went on to describe his team of AI agents, working for him. His dirty dozen, cabinet, team of rivals, assistants, advisors, and worker bees, helping Henrik 3x to 4x himself as he described. From Ambinet.ai to Veed.io , the list is long and detailed. So the time is now. Please join me in welcoming Henrik Jarleskog to Work 20XX We delve deep into the concept of ‘Full Stack Hospitality’ and it’s relevance in the future of work, workplaces, offices, and places where people gather. Sodexo is the 420,000+ employee behemoth you may not be familiar with, serving over 80 million consumers daily in over 45 countries, so Henrik has data, especially after being tasked to focus on the post pandemic workplace. And then there is his AI adoption story. While many struggle to find GenAI applications in daily life, Henrik has jumped in with both feet, taking courses, joining communities, and actively upping his game, not only in the name of future of work, but helping to define how organizations move forward with everyone brings a team of 30 assistants to work. How much faster can we go? How much more can we accomplish when 80% solutions are delivered in hours, not days? I think you’re going to enjoy this episode. Henrik Jarleskog: AI Squad, BarCeptionist, Full Stack Hospitality | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep50 YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8VQ5kdN1FE&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here https://www.work20xx.com/episode/henrik-jarleskog-ai-squad-barceptionist-full-stack-hospitality-work-20xx-ep50 © Copyright 2025 Menlo Creek Media, LLC, All Rights Reserved

Jun 6, 2025 • 17min
Brian Robertson: Authority, Clarity, Limits, System | Work 20XX Ep49
Brian Robertson’ leadership philosophies are based on empowering the system, not the people. With clear limits, an ‘act don’t ask’ permissive mindset, the culture seeks to foster more entrepreneurial leadership, when people can exercise authority and autonomy, rather then sitting around, waiting to be told what to do. As the founder of Holacracy and a veteran entrepreneur, Brian brings a new model for leadership and decision-making, rooted in clarity, authority, and giving people the ability to act. Recorded at Running Remote in Austin, Brian shares how companies can unlock speed and autonomy by creating transparent systems where roles are dynamic, authority is clearly defined, and people are trusted to lead without waiting for permission. He explains why most “empowerment” efforts fall flat, how limits actually expand freedom, and what it looks like when even the newest hire can shape the CEO’s responsibilities. From roundabouts to role maps, this conversation is packed with practical takeaways for leaders looking to future-proof their teams and ditch outdated command-and-control models. Empower the system. Please join me in welcoming Brian Robertson to the Work 20XX podcast. Editor’s Note: Recorded 2025-April-30 at the Running Remote conference in Austin, Texas. Special thanks to Liam, Egor, Ana, and Team Running Remote. Brian Robertson: Authority, Clarity, Limits, System | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep49 from Running Remote YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv7awiTqQQY&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt Transcript and Show Note - Click Here https://www.work20xx.com/episode/brian-robertson-authority-clarity-limits-system-work-20xx-ep49 © Copyright 2025 Menlo Creek Media, LLC, All Rights Reserved

Jun 2, 2025 • 14min
Mindy Honcoop: Fractional, Upskill, Micro dose Change | Work 20XX Ep48
Mindy Honcoop helps people grow, one micro dose at a time. As the founder of Agile in HR and a seasoned people leader, Mindy brings a unique lens as her path started in the juvenile justice system, working with kids, and figuring out how happiness, and being one’s best self at work, contributed to a child’s well being. At Running Remote, Mindy emcee’d the outside stage for two days, absorbing insights, and sharing her own perspective on the evolving nature of leadership, work, and upskilling. In this episode, she shares how fractional roles work, her approach to growth and creating a people and skills roadmap, and then training her way out of the engagement, upskilling the internal team to take the business up a notch. Mindy has a laser focus on a market segment where she identified a gap she could fill. Micro dose change is just one secret she shared. Please join me in welcoming Mindy Honcoop to the Work 20XX podcast. Editor’s Note: Recorded 2025-April-30 at the Running Remote conference in Austin, Texas. Special thanks to Liam, Egor, Ana, and Team Running Remote. Mindy Honcoop: Fractional, Upskill, Micro dose Change | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep48 from Running Remote #MindyHoncoop #AgileHR #MicrodoseChange #Fractional #Upskill #Microdose #Change #FractionalLeadership #Upskilling #FutureOfWork #RemoteWork #PeopleOps #Digital #Distributed #Remote #Hybrid #Workplace #RunningRemote #LeadershipDevelopment #HumanCentered #WorkplaceTransformation #ContinuousImprovement #TeamCulture #Interview #Podcast #Work20XX YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc-JKzPVZMw&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here Mindy Honcoop: Fractional, Upskill, Micro dose Change | Work 20XX Ep48 - Work 20XX https://www.work20xx.com/episode/mindy-honcoop-fractional-upskill-micro-dose-change-work-20xx-ep48

Jun 1, 2025 • 10min
Justin Harlan: Move for $10K, Stay for Community | Work20XX Ep47
Justin Harlan wants you to move to Tulsa. But not just for the $10,000 check. He wants you to consider building your life in Tulsa. As Managing Director of Tulsa Remote, Justin leads a groundbreaking initiative to attract talented, remote workers to diversity Tulsa’s economic base beyond oil and gas with more knowledge workers. To grow greater Tulsa, as well as the newly transplanted community. Tulsa is also investing in ‘placemaking’ to increase the probability that these newest residents will stay for the long team. And it’s working. With over 3,500 people relocated and an 85% retention rate, Justin and team are hitting the right levers. People are coming for the incentives, they’re staying for the quality of life. Please join me in welcoming Justin Harlan to the Work 20XX podcast. And thanks Justin and Austin Remote for being active sponsors of Running Remote, hosting the welcome reception. Recorded 2025-April-29 at the Running Remote conference in Austin, Texas. Special thanks to the Tulsa Remote team and our friends at Running Remote. Justin Harlan: $10K to Move, Stay for Community | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep47 from Running Remote #TulsaRemote #Talent #Distributed #Digital #Remote #Hybrid #RemoteWork #TalentAttraction #RelocationIncentives #CommunityBuilding #EconomicDevelopment #QualityOfLife #JustinHarlan #FutureOfWork #DistributedTeams #RunningRemote #PlaceBasedInnovation #HybridWork #DigitalNomads #Interview #Podcast #Work20XX YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQCMEJBGsgg&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here https://www.work20xx.com/episode/justin-harlan-move-for-10k-stay-for-community-work-20xx-ep47

May 30, 2025 • 16min
Zach Boyette: Remote, Design, Freedom, Games | Work 20XX Ep46
Zach Boyette got a business class view of the world and decided to build a life, and company around the freedom to design one’s own life, not only for Zach the traveler, but all the employees, regardless of the design they choose, living anywhere in the world. As co-founder and CEO of Galactic Fed, Zach leads a 100% remote, 150-person global marketing agency. They designed the company from the bottom up around the principle of giving agency to employees to design they life they want to lead. At work, at home, and in their communities. Built on a foundation of documentation, writing things down, no single point of failure. They’ve developed blueprints to describe in detail how to do various projects, from kicking off a client engagement, to interviewing new candidates. And time together, the focus is on fun. Show and Tell, Games, and more. Since the work is digital, together time is used to strengthen the human connections. Please join me in welcoming Zach Boyette to the Work 20XX podcast. Where we’re reminded yet again, that it’s better to be one in a million, than one of a million. Thanks again Zach. Recorded 2025-April-29 at the Running Remote conference in Austin, Texas. Special thanks to Liam, Egor, Ana, and Team Running Remote. Zach Boyette: Remote, Design, Freedom, Games | Work 20XX podcast with Jeff Frick Ep46 from Running Remote YouTube - Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Q077l_SRc&list=PLZURvMqWbYjmmJlwGj0L0jWbWdCej1Jlt Transcript and Show Notes - Click Here https://www.work20xx.com/episode/zach-boyette-remote-design-freedom-games-work-20xx-ep46