
The Score
An Urban Music Education Podcast hosted by Eric and Justin. They provide tips and strategies through honest discussions about their experience teaching music in an Urban setting. The goal is to provide a positive and solution-based narrative to create more effective, compassionate and culturally relevant music educators.
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Mar 15, 2021 • 55min
Ep. 54- A Case for Humanity- Interview: Bolaji Isiba
Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin bring back a familiar voice and close friend on this weeks episode. Mr. Bolaji Isiba, who serves as the Director Bands at Lake Olympia Middle School in Fort Bend ISD, stops by to discuss and layout the foundation of what it means to be human for your students. Authenticity, vulnerability, transparency are usually words associated with what we do as music educators, which is where our guest picks up the pen. We dive deep into connecting with our community of young musicians in ways that may not be written in a score. Yet through becoming closer in proximity, we actually enhance the lives and musical programs we instruct. Please tune in and enjoy another installment of great content brought to you by The Score !!!In Rotation:Lake Street Dive- "Hypotheticals"- EricGladys Knight- Justin McLeanChance the Rapper "The Heart and the Tongue"- BolajiConnect with Bolaji IsibaFacebook, IG, Twitterbashiru.jolaisiba@fortbendisd.comConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Mar 1, 2021 • 59min
Ep. 53- Anti-Racist Teaching- Interview: Alice Tsui
Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin have the pleasure of talking with Alice Tsui, the Founding Music Educator at PS 532 New Bridges Elementary in Brooklyn, NY, and DMA Candidate (ABD) in Music Education at Boston University. This episode was full of quality information on how to be a teacher that builds an environment that is connecting and inviting. Especially in a time where that’s not the norm, Alice gives great detail of what to do in creating an anti-racist environment for the benefit of students and teachers. Tune in and enjoy !!!!In Rotation:Tobe Nwigwe "Wake Up Everybody"- EricYolanda Adams "Battle is the Lord's"- JustinMC Jin "Chinese New Year" - AliceConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Feb 22, 2021 • 52min
Ep. 52- Music Ed Gatekeeping: Knockin' Doors Down
Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk about the gates and walls put up to keep and push our students away from the great opportunity of music ed. Eric and Justin review a post/clinic from this past TMEA convention and what it sparked in the minds of music educators across all streams. What does it really mean to knock down doors and liberate students with including and excluding for different exterior circumstances? Please listen in and glean what could be helpful to where you are and what could be hindering you or your students. Tune in and enjoy!!!In Rotation:Pimp C- "Knockin' Doors Down" - EricJudas and The Black Messiah Soundtrack- JustinConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Feb 1, 2021 • 58min
Ep. 51- Lifting As We Climb- Interview: Jesse Cannon II
Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin have the great pleasure of interviewing Duncanville High School Director of Choral Activities/Secondary Choral Coordinator Jesse Cannon II. Jesse waste no time in this episode dealing with the rhyme and reason why we do what we do. More importantly, letting that truly be the foundation for our existence in our music programs. Tune in and Enjoy !!!!!Jesse's IG & Jesse's Twitter In Rotation: Spotify Playlist "I Love My 90s Hip Hop" - EricOmarion "Connection"- JustinJacob Collier "All Night Long"- JesseConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Jan 25, 2021 • 1h 9min
Ep. 50- Seeking Competitive Greatness-Interview: William Young
Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin have the great pleasure of interviewing Duncanville Fine Arts Director William Young. Mr. Young details his career and what allowed him to compete at a high level without losing sight of what it all means. William discusses how he took to never make excuses but to change the narrative and stay true to who he is at the same time. Tune in and enjoy!!! Don't miss the great advice as well.In Rotation:Fat Joe, DJ Khaled & Amorphous "Sunshine (The Light)" - EricTodd Galberth- JustinBrian McKnight- After the Love- WilliamConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Jan 18, 2021 • 47min
Ep. 49- How to Keep Going: Focusing on Growth for the Disinterested
Send us a textAre you drained? Are you completely uninspired? Well, good news, you’re not alone. In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss what and how to keep pushing throughout. Tune in and check out this pick me up!!!!In Rotation:Gregory Porter- "Getting Thru It" - EricFred Hammon- JustinConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Jan 11, 2021 • 1h 7min
Ep. 48- Musicking In and Out of School: Interview- Steve Giddings
Send us a textIn the first episode of the new year, Eric and Justin interview music educator extraordinaire Steve Giddings. We discuss new realities and possibilities available in the classroom in this age of music ed. Steve rocks the norm of what he does for his kids and how it can be the norm and not just an anomaly. Tune in and enjoy !!!In Rotation:De Vuelta Pa La Vuelta- Daddy Yankee & Marc Anthony - EricThe Saga- JustinBrass Against- SteveSteve's Website, Twitter, PinterestConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Nov 16, 2020 • 1h 1min
Ep. 47- Music Citizenship- Interview: Courtney Powers
Send us a textIn this episode Eric and Justin interview music educator extraordinaire Courtney Powers. We discuss music citizenship's specifics and how to navigate spaces that may be guarded or closed off to the new innovative aspects of our art. Courtney also speaks to being a female band director/educator and what that means and how that impacts her classroom and how she teaches her students. Tune in and enjoy, and don’t miss something that has never happened on the score!!! In Rotation:Esteban Gabriel "Tirando La H" - EricRich Tolbert Jr.- JustinCuco- CourtneyCourtney's IG & YouTubeConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Nov 9, 2020 • 1h 3min
Ep. 46- The Black Percussionist: A Chat with Dr. Lamon Lawhorn
Send us a textIn this episode, Eric and Justin catch up with percussion extraordinaire and professor Dr. Lawhorn. Listen as Dr. Lawhorn speaks about his journey and vision, and goal as a music educator and a black percussionist. We dig in on the heart of what it means to thrive and push in places that seem foreign and how the very representation of who we are brings about clarity and exposure for students who may not know it’s possible. You don’t want to miss the pillars of truth and nuggets of wisdom that Dr. Lawhorn drops effortlessly. Tune in and give the drummer some!!! In Rotation:PJ Morton ft. Tobe Nwigwe- "Ashamed" - EricSermon Celebrations & James Brown- JustinBGMM Virtual Halftime, Meek Mill, & Marvin Sapp- "Chosen Vessel"- Dr. Lawhornwww.lamonlawhorn.comConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Nov 2, 2020 • 58min
Ep. 45- Changing The Narrative: Our Counterstory
Send us a textIn this episode, Eric and Justin take a walk down memory lane and discuss some early moments and words that directly shaped their careers. We take a hard look at things that could break and paralyze any educator but how we instead turned those moments into fuel to help propel us forward. Tune in and enjoy!!!In Rotation:Charlie Wilson ft. Smokey Robinson "All of My Love" - EricBobby Brown "Don't Be Cruel"- JustinConnect with us Facebook, Twitter & Instagram:@podthescore;podthescore@gmail.com;The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean @jusmackmuzikIn Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez @jamin_musicSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music
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