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Send us a textIn this powerful and reflective episode of The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Dr. Derrick Fox (@singingingfox1), Associate Dean of Graduate Studies, Research, and Creative Endeavors and Associate Director of Choral Programs at the Michigan State University College of Music.Dr. Fox opens up about his journey as a leader, educator, and artist — exploring how self-determination, intentionality, and community have shaped his path. From navigating barriers as a Black musician in predominantly white spaces to empowering the next generation of music educators, his story reminds us that true leadership begins with purpose and accountability.Listeners will hear Dr. Fox’s insights on mentorship, vulnerability in leadership, and what it truly means to create spaces where every voice is valued. His message, “If it is to be, it is up to me,” challenges us all to step into our power — not only as educators, but as agents of change.Whether you’re a classroom teacher, conductor, or future arts leader, this conversation will leave you inspired to reflect, act, and uplift those around you.🎧 Listen now and join the movement to redefine leadership in music education: https://linktr.ee/thescorepodcast📱 Follow Dr. Fox: www.drderrickfox.com | Instagram: @singingingfox1#TheScorePodcast #MusicEducation #Leadership #ChoralMusic #ArtsLeadership #RepresentationMatters #EricAndJustin #IfItIsToBeItIsUpToMeSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Send us a text🎙 Episode 118: Más Que Música – Identity & Accessibility in Music EducationIn this week’s episode of The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Daniel Flores (@trumpetpapi) — musician, content creator, and advocate for culturally rooted music education. Daniel shares his journey growing up in underfunded, majority-Hispanic music programs, and how those early experiences shaped his passion for making music more accessible and meaningful for all students.From starting the first collegiate mariachi ensemble in Illinois to helping other student groups across the country form their own, Daniel has been at the forefront of pushing for representation in spaces that often overlook genres like mariachi, banda, and conjunto. His story sheds light on the challenges of advocating for underrepresented traditions in predominantly white institutions, and the resilience required to keep that work moving forward.We also dive into Daniel’s role as a digital educator on TikTok and Instagram, where he uses his platforms to “democratize” music education and connect with students and audiences beyond the classroom. He opens up about the rewards and roadblocks of partnering with institutions and brands as a non-conservatory trained musician, and how social media has become a powerful tool for both advocacy and teaching.Whether you’re an educator looking to expand your repertoire, a student navigating questions of identity in music, or simply someone curious about how tradition and innovation collide, this conversation offers practical takeaways and plenty of inspiration.👉 Listen now and join us as we explore what it means to go beyond the staff — to embrace music as a vehicle for culture, identity, and access.🔗 Listen here: https://linktr.ee/thescorepodcastSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Send us a textThis week on The Score, Eric and Justin dive into one of the toughest balancing acts in music education: creating strong classroom culture and managing discipline—without losing the spark that makes music joyful.🔥 From setting expectations on Day 1 to navigating those inevitable tough moments, Eric and Justin share real stories, lessons learned, and strategies that keep students accountable and inspired.💡 Whether you’re a new teacher building your first program or a veteran director rethinking your approach, this episode is packed with practical insights and honest reflections you can take straight to your classroom.▶️ LISTEN NOW: https://linktr.ee/thescorepodcast🎧 Hit play. Get inspired. Share with your people.Support the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Send us a textThe Score is kicking off the school year with fresh energy and new perspectives! Eric and Justin are back to talk about what it really takes to start strong—whether you’re leading a high school ensemble, shaping young minds in elementary, or finding your rhythm as a new teacher.🎯 In this episode, Justin shares his journey transitioning from secondary to elementary music teaching—what’s surprised him, what’s challenged him, and the lessons he’s already learned. Eric brings insights from the field, highlighting trends, strategies, and the mindset shifts music educators need to thrive in 2025.💬 From setting up classrooms to setting the tone for a new year, we’re getting honest about the preparation, flexibility, and creativity it takes to make back-to-school season successful and joyful.💡 If you’re looking for practical tips, fresh inspiration, and a few laughs to start your school year, this episode is for you. Please check out this week's episode to be encouraged and inspired. Enjoy and share!!! 🌟▶️ LISTEN NOW: https://linktr.ee/thescorepodcast🎧 Start your school year with purpose, community, and a little bit of fire.— 📢 Spread the Word: Tag a friend, colleague, or someone who’s ready to make a difference in the music classroom this year. 📱 Stay Connected: Follow us @podthescore for updates, future episodes, and more.Support the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Send us a textAfter a brief break, The Score is back in full effect! Eric and Justin reunite at the mics to reflect, recharge, and refocus on what matters most: music education, leadership, and building spaces where all students thrive.🎯 In this episode, we unpack where we’ve been, what’s changed in the world of education, and why this next chapter feels more urgent—and more exciting—than ever.💬 From burnout to breakthroughs, we’re getting real about the challenges educators face and the responsibility we all carry to keep pushing forward.💡 If you’ve ever needed a reset or a reminder that your work matters—this episode is for you. Please check out this week's episode to be encouraged and inspired. Enjoy and share!!! 🌟▶️ LISTEN NOW: https://linktr.ee/thescorepodcast🎧 Start your school year with purpose, community, and a little bit of fire.—📢 Spread the Word: Tag a friend, colleague, or someone who’s ready to make a difference in the music classroom this year.📱 Stay Connected: Follow us @podthescore for updates, future episodes, and more.Support the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Send us a textOur first collab with The Relative Pitch Podcast!Support the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin get to interview Dr. Ruben James Alcala. Dr. Alcala serves as the Vocal and Elementary Music Coordinator for Fort Worth ISD. Listen in as we journey through a decorated career and the genesis story of how music changed his career trajectory. This conversation paints a beautiful picture of Dr. Alcala’s journey that fuels his convictions and has made his quest more impactful for the students he serves. Please check out this week's episode to be encouraged and inspired. Enjoy and share!!!In Rotation:Eric- "Lucid Dreams" Leon Thomas feat. MasegoJustin- "My Last Two Dollars" Johnny TaylorRuben- T-PainSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Dive into the world of music education and discover the lasting impact of building authentic relationships with students. Personal anecdotes reveal how mentorship can extend far beyond the classroom, helping young individuals navigate their post-high school journeys. The hosts emphasize the importance of nurturing supportive communities over competition and accolades. Listen as they explore shared musical memories that foster connections, showcasing the profound influence these relationships have on students' future success.

Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a beautiful conversation with a world-class educator who invested in the lives of both Eric and Justin. This episode features the well-decorated Dr. A. Jan Taylor. Dr. Taylor has taught at every level and achieved great success. And was the former Choral Director and music professor at Prairie View A&M University. Since her retirement in 2020, she has still been in heavy demand as a clinician, mentor, and sage of wisdom for upcoming educators in the choral arena. Listen in, as we discussed with Dr Taylor, to the need for real authentic mentorship with those who have come before us to better launch new educators forward towards musical excellence for their programs. Please check out this week's episode to be encouraged and inspired. Enjoy and share!!!In Rotation:Eric- My Divo PodcastJustin- Kenyan Dixon "Can I have this Groove"Dr. Taylor- Elevate Vocal ArtsSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music

Send us a textIn this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a beautiful conversation meeting the needs of every student. Specifically, our deaf students make up our various musical ensembles. To help us fully grasp this nuance, we had the pleasure of engaging with Mr. Adam Chitta. Mr. Chitta is the founder and owner of The Chitta Sound and an accomplished band director at North East ISD in San Antonio. In this dialogue, Adam raises awareness and gives proper tools as a deaf band director to reach out and provide a great experience for those and others alike. This is yet another enriching conversation for educators as a whole to continue being bridge builders for all students, no matter the learning nuance. Please check out this week's episode to be encouraged and inspired. Enjoy and share!!! In Rotation:Eric- De Parranda "El A-RA-B"Justin- Aarik Duncan- "Chasing Cars"Adam- Composer Tyler MazoneConnect with Adam: http://www.thechittasound.comAdam@thechittasound.comSupport the showConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescoreEmail: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast WebsiteSupport The Score on Patreon or PaypalMusic Credits:Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music