

Value Hive Podcast
Brandon Beylo
Welcome to The Hive! It's nice in here, isn't it?
The Hive is a collection of investors, entrepreneurs, thinkers and individuals dedicated to getting a little smarter each day.
If you're a fan of value investing, business models, eclectic success and failure stories -- this is your podcast.
Our goal is to provide you the highest quality interviews with new twists on old topics. Fresh perspectives on antiquated ideas. Passionate discourse on all things investing.
Join us as we strive to improve a little bit each day: https://macro-ops.com/
The Hive is a collection of investors, entrepreneurs, thinkers and individuals dedicated to getting a little smarter each day.
If you're a fan of value investing, business models, eclectic success and failure stories -- this is your podcast.
Our goal is to provide you the highest quality interviews with new twists on old topics. Fresh perspectives on antiquated ideas. Passionate discourse on all things investing.
Join us as we strive to improve a little bit each day: https://macro-ops.com/
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Apr 17, 2020 • 1h 13min
How To Fix A Business In 100 Days w/ Jeff Sands, Dorset Partners (Episode 21)
Excited to share Episode 21 with y'all!
What better time to have a turnaround expert on the show, right?
Jeff Sands is a 3x winner of the Turnaround Of The Year award (2017-2019), and he's got a good shot at 2020. He spent his early career working in his family business. When outside pressures rattled the company, Jeff realized two things: a) the importance of cash and b) that nobody taught him how to manage this crisis.
Jeff's passion is turning around troubled businesses, and he's one of the best in the world at it.
During our chat, we discuss:
[0:00 - 9:00] Introduction and Background
[10:00 - 13:00] Why Stubbornness Is Death in Turnarounds
[14:00-20:00] Jeff's Tools For Turnarounds
[21:00-27:00] Why Jeff Doesn't Look at The P&L
[28:00-30:00] First Steps in Any Turnaround
[31:00-34:00] How To Coach A Bank
[35:00-41:00] Founding Dorset Partners
[42:00-56:00] Real World Turnaround Examples
[57:00-59:00] How To Identify A Core Business
[60:00-66:00] Jeff's Failures in Turnarounds
[67:00-69:00] How To Spot Failed Turnarounds in Public Companies
[70:00-end] Concluding Questions
If you want to learn more about Jeff (and his book), check out these links:
Jeff's Twitter
Jeff's Book
Dorset Partners website
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Apr 10, 2020 • 1h 19min
Survival of The Permanent w/ Brent Beshore, Permanent Equity (Episode 20)
We've made it to a huge milestone: 20 podcast episodes.
We couldn't have done it without you, our listener base. Y'all keep the lights on and help spread the word about what we're doing.
For our 20th episode, we chat with Brent Beshore, CEO and Founder of Permanent Equity.
We're living in unprecedented times. COVID-19 is wreaking havoc on our day-to-day lives. It's shutting down businesses and entire economies. We don't know when we'll return to "normal". And when we do, we don't know what that new "normal" will look like.
In this episode I ask Brent to flesh out some of his latest essay pieces on mental models, cutting expenses and the new normal for life and business.
Here's the podcast timeline:
[0:00 - 6:00] Introduction
[7:00 - 18:00] Cutting Fat, Muscle and Bone
[20:00 - 30:00] Intricate Challenges Small Businesses Face
[35:00 - 42:00] Capitalism & Eminent Domain
[43:00 - 47:00] Permanent Equity's Safe Harbor
[57:00 - 59:00] The Benefits of In-Person Meetings
[60:00 - 65:00] The V-Bottom Reversal is Dead
[66:00 - 70:00] Faith & Getting Back To What Matters
[71:00 - End] How Brent Structures His Day
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Apr 3, 2020 • 1h 33min
What I Learned From Over 600 Blog Posts, The Science of Hitting (Episode 19)
Episode 19 is here! I'm excited to bring y'all my conversation with Alex (aka, The Science of Hitting). Alex is a both a writer and investor. When he's not thinking about which businesses to buy, he's writing about them on GuruFocus.
Alex has over 600 blog posts on GuruFocus to date, a feat few others can claim. I've enjoyed Alex's content for years and getting the chance to chat with him about investing was a blast.
Here's what we cover:
[0:00 - 6:00] Introduction
[7:00 - 14:00] Quality vs. Price
[15:00 - 23:00] TSOH's Investment Process (Soup to nuts)
[24:00 - 40:00] Can you pay too much for a quality business?
[42:00 - 57:00] Lessons Learned From 600+ Blog Posts
[60:07 - 70:00] Charles Schwab (SCHW) and Match (MTCH)
[71:00 - end] Short-term volatility and closing questions
I had a blast recording this podcast. I learned a ton and I know you will too.
Do yourself a favor and follow TSOH on Twitter @TSOH_Investing. You can also check out his articles on GuruFocus here.
Also, if you love the podcast, consider subscribing to our free, weekly value investing newsletter: The Value Hive.

Mar 28, 2020 • 1h 21min
Lessons in Options Trading, Credit Markets and Balance Sheets w/ Fil Zucchi (Episode 18)
Better late than never, right?
On Episode 18 of the Value Hive Podcast I chat with Fil Zucchi. Fil is an independent options trader and former bankruptcy lawyer. I first met Fil at last years ValueX Vail Investors Conference.
Fil brings a unique look to equity and credit markets. He expresses his thoughts and opinions through options trading. He's a market veteran with over 30 years of experience.
Here's the crazy part: in 30 years of trading, Fil's never seen markets like the one we're in now.
We dive deep into options trading, balance sheets, bond markets and what to look for in troubled companies. Fil provides insight into why credit markets lead equity markets, and how equity investors can leverage bond markets to gain additional insight.
Podcast Timeline:
[0:00-5:00] Introduction and Background
[6:00-11:00] Why Credit Leads Equity
[12:00-20:00] Understanding Capital Flows in Credit Markets
[21:00-26:00] Current State of the Credit Markets
[27:00-38:00] Deep Dive into Options Trading
[39:00-49:00] LEAPS & Using Options on Value Stocks
[50:00-58:00] Lessons Learned From Best & Worst Options Trades
[59:00 - 109:00] Why Equity Investors Should Follow Bond Markets
[110:00 - 113:00] Lessons Learned from Days as Bankruptcy Lawyer
[end] Concluding Thoughts & Last Question
If you want to learn more about Fil, or follow his thoughts, check him out on Twitter @FZucchi
Thanks for listening. If you like what we're doing, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts.

Mar 20, 2020 • 1h 10min
The Power of Owner Operators with Chris Mayer, Woodlock House Family Capital (Episode 17)
Chris Mayer is an author and fund manager. He's written three books and in 2018, started managing Woodlock House Family Capital.
Many investors have heard of Chris' name from his (now cult-following phenomenon) book, 100-Baggers. In that book, Chris dives into common characteristics of companies that returned 100-to-1 for their investors. Some of those characteristics include:
Revenue and earnings growth
Founder-led or owner-operator at the helm
Tremendous drawdowns in share price
During the podcast, we chat about the following topics:
What Chris wished he knew when he started investing
Why Chris prefers owner-operators
What gives Chris his edge in the markets
What are shared qualities of some of Chris' biggest winners
Why Chris loves markets and investing
and more!
If you're interested in learning more about Chris, check out his books:
100 Baggers
World Right Side Up: Investing Across Six Continents
How Do You Know?: A Guide to Clear Thinking About Wall Street, Investing & Life
Invest Like a Dealmaker: Secrets from a Former Banking Insider
Also you can find him on Twitter and his blog.
Podcast Time-line:
[0:00-10:00] What Chris Wish He Knew When He Started Investing
[11:00-19:00] Process over Outcome
[19:30-27:00] Qualities of an Owner-Operator
[28:00-37:00] Why Chris is a Global Investor
[38:00-49:00] How To Sell
[50:00-52:00] What is Chris' Biggest Weakness
[53:00-58:00] Owning A Few Great Businesses
[59:00-67:00] What Gives Chris His Edge in Markets
[67:30-End] Closing Questions

Mar 13, 2020 • 1h 24min
Reminiscences of a Deep Value Investor, ValueStockGeek (Episode 16)
ValueStockGeek runs a deep-value investing blog and is active on Twitter. I originally found him when setting up my own investment blog.
We've ping-ponged back and forth with times to chat and call, and after a few months we finally synched up.
I'm excited to have ValueStockGeek on the podcast for a few reasons:
We share similar investment styles and philosophies
His transparency is refreshing
He offers unique insights into macro themes as well as micro, company-specific write-ups
During the chat we discuss the following:
[2:00-10:00] Introduction to ValueStockGeek
[11:00-14:30] Maintaining Rationality During Volatility
[15:00-21:00] Recession Talk
[21:00-31:00] Why Stocks Are Still Expensive
[32:00-50:00] ValueStockGeek's Lazy Portfolio
[51:00-57:00] ValueStockGeek's Investment Process
[60:00-71:00] How ValueStockGeek Values Companies
[72:00-End] Final Comments & Last Question
If you want to learn more about ValueStockGeek, check out his website and Twitter (links below):
Twitter
ValueStockGeek Website

Mar 6, 2020 • 1h 13min
Buying A Job & Creating A Platform with Nick Haschka, The Wright Gardner & Cub Investments (Episode 15)
In this week's episode I chat with Nick Haschka. Nick is the founder of Cub Investments and Co-Owner of The Wright Gardner. He wears many hats, but if you were to ask him what he does, he boils it down to two things: investor and CEO of a plant company.
Nick's journey towards small business ownership was a winding road. After graduating from MIT, he went to work for McKinsey. After consulting, he found a passion in clean tech and clean energy with NRG Group, leading their high-tech ventures program.
It was around this time Nick decided he wanted to own a small business. He stressed the importance of living a balanced life, and forming your business around the life you want to live. Not the other way around.
Nick found The Wright Gardener after a month of searching. After becoming CEO he proceeded to do five bolt-on acquisitions to grow the company.
Realizing his passion for investments and acquiring businesses, Nick set up Cub Investments. Cub Investments is a small private equity company whose goal is to buy small, local businesses and hold them forever.
I really enjoyed my chat with Nick. His sense on balance between work and life was refreshing. And you can ALWAYS learn something from talking to an MIT grad. I know you'll learn a lot too.
[0:00-5:00] Introduction & Background on Nick
[12:00-16:00 ] Nick's Passion for Clean Energy
[18:30 - 23:00] Why Nick Decided To Buy A Small Business
[26:00-35:00] How Nick Found The Wright Gardener & First Steps In Ownership
[40:00-45:00] Why It's Important to Plan For Change
[56:00-64:00] Why Nick Started Cub Investments & His Investment Criteria
[65:00-end] Closing Thoughts
Here's where you can find Nick:
LinkedIn
Twitter
The Wright Gardener
Cub Investments

Feb 28, 2020 • 1h 15min
High Growth, High Quality Businesses - Ryan Reeves, InvestingCity.org (Episode 14)
Ryan Reeves is the founder/CEO of InvestingCity.org. InvestingCity.org was built around one idea: save time and boost returns. Ryan started the business in 2016 after writing a newsletter for his friends, and realizing the gap in solid, financial analysis for the every day investor. Reeves' passion for investing began early, around the age of 12. After graduating Pepperdine, he worked at Morgan Stanley, The Motley Fool and Seeking Alpha.
I thoroughly enjoyed my conversation with Ryan. He's humble, honest and full of compounded investing knowledge.
Here's what we discussed:
[0-14min] - Ryan’s background
[15:00] - How Ryan Started InvestingCity.org
[25:00] - The State of Financial Education in America
[30:00] - Ryan’s Research Process
[50:00] - Ryan’s Thoughts on Charlie Munger’s DJO Meeting
[53:00] - How Ryan Thinks About Valuation
[56:00] - Ryan’s Worst Investment
[60:00] - Costco’s Business Model
If you want to learn more about Ryan (or InvestingCity), check out the following:
Ryan's Twitter: @investing_city
Investing City's Website: InvestingCity.org
If you like what we're doing, leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts.

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Feb 22, 2020 • 1h 30min
Deep Value Investing in LA Real Estate, Moses Kagan of AdaptiveRealty.com (Episode 13)
I had the privilege to chat with Moses Kagan, founder of Adaptive Realty. I call Moses a Deep Value Investor in LA Real Estate because that's exactly what he does.
Moses finds beaten-down, ugly, overlooked buildings in Los Angeles, CA. He buys them, does a complete gut and renovation, and rents them out at attractive rates of return for his investors.
While not an investor in public equities, Moses' analysis of cash flows, determination to find great deals, and knowledge of the power of relationships applies to any investment field.
During the podcast we dive into the following topics:
Who is Moses Kagan? [0:00 - 6:00]
Why Moses Hated Working For Someone Else [16:00]
Why Moses Chose Real Estate [28:00]
Moses' First Few Deals [35:00]
The Power of Long-Term Relationships [60:00]
How To Quickly Value an Apartment Building [85:00]
If you want to learn more about Moses, check out these links:
Twitter: @MosesKagan
Moses' Company: Adaptive Realty
Moses' Blog: KagansBlog.com
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Feb 14, 2020 • 1h 10min
Building A Great Product w/ Robert Koyfman, Founder of Koyfin.com (Episode 12)
Rob Koyfman is the founder and CEO of Koyfin.com. Rob has a tremendous background in the world of finance, investment and trading. He's a CFA Charterholder and former Goldman Sachs VP.
In 2015 Rob left the corporate world to start Koyfin.com. A one man operation. Rob grew Koyfin into a fast-growing financial analysis website. Rob's vision for Koyfin is simple. He wants to provide better analytics for investors.
During the podcast we chat about the following:
First 15 minutes ...
Rob's background and experience at Goldman Sachs
What Rob learned while working for PMs and CIOs
15 minute - 30 minute mark ...
Why Rob started Koyfin
The importance of clean UI
30 minute - 1 hour mark ...
Future Aspirations of Koyfin
Why Rob is passionate about good looking charts
and more!
If you want more info on Koyfin, check out their website: www.koyfin.com
You can also follow Rob on twitter @KoyfinCharts or email him at rob@koyfin.com.
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