Andrew Talks to Chefs

Andrew Friedman
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Aug 12, 2021 • 1h 53min

Episode 174: Rich Melman, R.J. Melman, and Jerrod Melman (Lettuce Entertain You); Vicki Freeman (The Bowery Group, NYC) on Operating and Opening Restaurants Right Now

During a recent book research trip to Chicago, Andrew made time to sit down with industry legend Rich Melman, founder of Lettuce Entertain You; Lettuce Entertain You president R.J. Melman; and executive partner Jerrod Melman. On the occasion of the company's 50th year in business, the family open up about the company's origins, evolution, and management style, as well as other aspects of running restaurants and managing teams. This is a rare and fascinating chance to learn about a philosophy of hospitality from some of the best in the business.And in The Line-Up, our news and commentary segment, NYC restaurateur Vicki Freeman of The Bowery Group calls in to talk about their new restaurant Shukette (with chef Ayesha Nurdaja at the helm), and the ups and downs of opening and operating restaurants at this delicate moment in time.In our jobs-of-the-week segment, we share some of the great positions our sponsor Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS) is currently looking to fill.  (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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Jul 30, 2021 • 1h 35min

Episode 173: Alfred Portale (Portale, NYC); Dame's Patricia Howard & Ed Szymanski on Requiring Indoor Guests be Vaccinated

One of the most influential contemporary American chefs, Alfred Portale, joins us to discuss his early, formative days; the Italian-American influence on his culinary sensibility; and the pleasures of opening his current restaurant, the self-titled Italian restaurant Portale in New York  City's Chelsea neighborhood. (Alfred also happens to be the chef who gave Andrew his big break, when he hired him to coauthor his first cookbook.)And in The Line-Up, our news and commentary segment, Patricia Howard and Ed Szymanski of Dame restaurant in New York City, discuss their recent decision (also made by several other chef/owners) to require proof of vaccination for indoor diners.And in our jobs-of-the-week segment, we share some of the great positions our sponsor Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS) is currently looking to fill.  (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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Jul 24, 2021 • 1h 49min

Episode 172: Arron Sain (personal chef to NFL players & celebrities); Ray Delucci on Imposter Syndrome in the Industry

Arron Sain combines his culinary training and nutritional knowledge (he's a former competitive bodybuilder) to his work as a personal chef and trainer to professional football players like his current client Bud Dupree, as well as celebrities like Fantasia Barrino. Arron sat down with Andrew in Chicago this week to share his unique journey that included an almost 15-year hiatus from his culinary track. In The Line Up, our news and commentary segment, Ray Delucci of the podcast Line Cook Thoughts and blogger for Plate magazine discusses his recent post about imposter syndrome in the industry. And in our jobs-of-the-week segment, we share some of the great positions our sponsor Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS) is currently looking to fill.  (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information.  THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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Jul 16, 2021 • 1h 53min

Episode 171: Franklin Becker (F. Becker Hospitality); Sean Feeney & Andrea Strong on the future of ROAR NY

Andrew recently sat down with prolific chef and restaurateur Franklin Becker at his recently launched Manhattanville Market for a  very personal conversation about everything from his evolution as a chef and manager to the ups and downs of his personal life, starting with a tumultuous childhood in Brooklyn, NY.In The Line Up, our news and commentary segment, the new executive director of the industry advocacy organization ROAR NY, Andrea Strong, and co-founder Sean Feeney, discuss the organization's plans and priorities, and contextualize this very powerful moment in time.And in our jobs-of-the-week segment, we share some of the great positions our sponsor Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS) is currently looking to fill.  (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)All that plus Andrew's notes on the restaurants he visited this week.Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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Jul 9, 2021 • 1h 48min

Episode 170: Chutatip "Nok" Suntaranon (Kalaya, Philadelphia); Author & Journalist Joshua David Stein on the Fate of the Reset & Other Hot Topics

Chutatip "Nok" Suntaranon, the chef and owner of Philadelphia's acclaimed Kalaya restaurant, tells the fascinating story of her circuitous route to her current success and her unique approach to management and hospitality.In The Line Up, our news and commentary segment, author and journalist Joshua David Stein discusses the fate of the Reset and related industry subjects. (Check out Joshua's new book Cooking for Your Kids: At Home  with the World's Greatest Chefs and Joshua's Zoom chat with Sean Brock & Mina Park this Saturday, July 10 at 4pm EST.)And in our jobs-of-the-week segment, we share some of the great positions our sponsor Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS) is currently looking to fill.  (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)All that plus Andrew's notes on the restaurants he visited this week.To learn more about the Valrhona School Pastry Classes being offered this summer--click here!Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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Jul 2, 2021 • 2h 6min

Episode 169: Flynn McGarry (Gem, NYC); Jeremy Repanich on Robb Report's Tribute to Industry Figures Who Stepped Up This Year

We're super-excited to share a fascinating interview with chef Flynn McGarry. Recorded in two sessions at his Gem restaurant in lower Manhattan, one just before the pandemic in February 2020 and the other just last week, the conversations cover McGarry's creative process, both as chef and restaurateur, as well as how he had to adjust his plans for Gem to respond to the ongoing public health crisis and his own constantly shifting sensibilities.In  our news and commentary segment The Line-Up, Robb Report's Jeremy Repanich discusses his feature spotlighting industry figures who stepped up to make a difference during the past year.And in our jobs-of-the-week segment, we share some of the great positions our sponsor Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS) is currently looking to fill.  (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)To learn more about the Valrhona School Pastry Classes being offered this summer--click here!All that plus Andrew's notes on the restaurants he visited this week.Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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Jun 25, 2021 • 1h 38min

Episode 168: Remembering Mark Peel (previously unaired 2010 interview); Lisa Abend on Copenhagen after COVID

This week, the American restaurant industry lost a Los Angeles legend when chef Mark Peel passed away at the untimely age of 66. As tribute, we're sharing a 2010 book interview Andrew conducted with Mark that covers his culinary awakening in the 1970s, his time in (and contributions to) such landmark restaurants as Ma Maison, Michael's Santa Monica, and Spago, as well as the launch of his own restaurant Campanile, in partnership with his wife at the time, Nancy Silverton. And in our weekly news and commentary segment, The Line-Up, Copenhagen-based journalist Lisa Abend joins us to discuss her new Substack, Bord, on which she and her colleagues and collaborators cover the contemporary Copenhagen restaurant scene, and the fascinating goings-on behind the scenes. And in our jobs-of-the-week segment, we share some of the great positions our sponsor Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS) is currently looking to fill.  (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)To learn more about the Valrhona School Pastry Classes being offered this summer--click here!All that plus Andrew's notes on the restaurants and bars he's visited this week.Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information.(photo of Mark Peel by Anne Fishbein) THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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Jun 17, 2021 • 2h 37min

Episode 167: Felipe Donnelly & Tamy Rofe (Colonia Verde & Disco Tacos, Brooklyn); David Nayfeld & Matt Brewer on Tipping

At the heart of their successful Brooklyn restaurants Colonia Verde and Disco Tacos is the longstanding romance between Felipe Donnelly and Tamy Rofe. The couple sat down with Andrew in Williamsburg to discuss how they met, fell in love, and eventually ditched their marketing careers for a new life in hospitality. At this precarious moment in time, this is a feel-good conversation sure to put a smile on your face.In The Line-Up, our news and commentary segment, David Nayfeld and Matt Brewer of Che Fico and Che Fico Alimentari discuss the complexities of the tipping issue and how they've changed their own practices to create a more profitable and equitable structure for their team.In this week's Andrew Talks to Chefs classic moment, we revisit Andrew's conversation with the late Anthony Bourdain. (Please peruse our alphabetical archive of hundreds of guests at the pod's website to hear your favorite chefs on demand.)And in our jobs-of-the-week segment, we share some of the great positions our sponsor Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS) is currently looking to fill.  (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)All that plus Andrew's notes on the restaurants and bars he's visited this week.Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Please consider supporting Andrew Talks to Chefs via our Patreon page–we have eliminated tiered contributor levels and invite one and all to support us at a minimum of just $2 per month. Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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Jun 3, 2021 • 1h 60min

Episode 166: Peter Hoffman (chef & author of What's Good?); Jacqueline Raposo on Expanding the Definition of "Accessible"

For nearly 3 decades chef Peter Hoffman owned and operated the storied restaurant Savoy in New York City's SoHo neighborhood. In his first book, What's Good?, he intertwines his own story and that of the restaurant with notes on ingredients that take the reader through a year of growing cycles. It's a remarkable and beautifully written book and Peter's comments are a wonderful expansion of some key ideas and moments it contains.In The Line-Up, our news and commentary segment, writer and  podcast producer Jacqueline Raposo discusses her recent Grub Street article advocating for a broader and more informed definition of "accessibility" in restaurants building on lessons learned during COVID.And as he does each week, Brad Metzer, founder of Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS), joins us to share a  selection of positions that his firm is looking to fill. (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Please consider supporting Andrew Talks to Chefs via our Patreon page–we have eliminated tiered contributor levels and invite one and all to support us at a minimum of just $2 per month. Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!
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May 27, 2021 • 1h 58min

Episode 165: Mary Attea (Musket Room, NYC); Drew Nieporent on the Industry's Short-Term Outlook

Chef Mary Attea, currently turning out exceptional food at The Musket Room in New York City, initially set her sights on a career in the dark world of criminal psychology. But a series of restaurant jobs drew her first to the industry, and eventually to the pro kitchen. After training at the Institute of Culinary Education in New York City, Mary landed an externship at the fabled West Village restaurant Annisa, where she eventually ascended to the position of chef de cuisine, which she held until the restaurant's closure in 2017.  In her first longform, biographical interview, Mary shares her unique path and the lessons learned along the way.And in our news and commentary segment The Line-Up, legendary restaurateur Drew NIeporent (Tribeca Grill, Nobu, Batard, etc.) shares his thoughts on the industry's short-term prospects 15 months into COVID.And as he does each week, Brad Metzer, founder of Brad Metzger Restaurant Solutions (BMRS), joins us to share a  selection of positions that his firm is looking to fill. (Andrew Talks to Chefs listeners are encouraged to reach out to BMRS at the special, dedicated email address created just for you at ATC@restaurant-solutions.com.)Andrew Talks to Chefs is sponsored in part by meez; please check out this revolutionary new interactive recipe database and tool for professional chefs and cooks.Please consider supporting Andrew Talks to Chefs via our Patreon page–we have just eliminated tiered contributor levels and invite one and all to support us at a minimum of just $2 per month. Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related information. THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:Andrew is a writer by trade. If you'd like to support him, there's no better way than by purchasing his most recent book, The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food (October 2023), about all the key people (in the restaurant, on farms, in delivery trucks, etc.) whose stories and work come together in a single restaurant dish.We'd love if you followed us on Instagram. Please also follow Andrew's real-time journal of the travel, research, writing, and production of/for his next book The Opening (working title), which will track four restaurants in different parts of the U.S. from inception to launch.For Andrew's writing, dining, and personal adventures, follow along at his personal feed.Thank you for listening—please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback and/or suggestions!

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