

THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
Dominic Schlueter
The Running Effect is changing the way the world sees running.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
Whether you're chasing a personal best or dreaming bigger about what running can mean in your life, The Running Effect is your home for passion, performance, and possibility.
🚀 Join the movement that's reshaping running media.
More than a podcast — a revolution in how running is told, lived, and loved.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
Whether you're chasing a personal best or dreaming bigger about what running can mean in your life, The Running Effect is your home for passion, performance, and possibility.
🚀 Join the movement that's reshaping running media.
More than a podcast — a revolution in how running is told, lived, and loved.
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Jun 10, 2024 • 35min
Sub 4 HS Miler JoJo Jourdon Shares Insights Ahead Of Chasing History At The 2024 Brooks PR Meet
Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is JoJo Jourdon!
On February 3rd, he won the 2024 New Balance Grand Prix in a time of 3:59.87. JoJo became the first Utah high school runner to break the four-minute mile barrier.
He's racing one of his first competitive miles back since February this week.
JoJo was the 2023 Men's NXN Champion and won in stunning fashion. He came out of the mud on top, and that was just the start. He's also run 1:55.55 in the 800m and 8:40 in the 2-Mile. Lastly, he won the 2023 Utah 5A XC State Champ,2023 & recently won a pair of State-Titles at his 2024 Utah Track State Championships.
JoJo is committed to run for Wake Forest this upcoming Fall where he'll join a Rockey Hansen who also broke four minutes in the mile as a high schooler last year.
In today's conversation, we recap his historic state meet, his decision to go all-in on the Brooks PR Meet, his experience from the 2023 edition, his recent training, and much more!
You can catch JoJo Jourdon go for first on June 12 in the Mile at the 2024 Brooks PR Meet in Seattle, Washington.
Tap into the JoJo Jourdon Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-More info on the BROOKS PR Meet: https://www.soundrunning.run/brookspr
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 8, 2024 • 57min
From Not Making An NCAA Meet To Making The 2024 Paris Olympics & Setting National Records: The Inspiring Story Of Lauren Ryan
Today on the podcast is 2024 Olympian Lauren Ryan!
Lauren runs for Under Armour's Dark Sky Distance and represents her home country of Australia. She is currently a 2x National Record Holder and 1x Australian Champion. Lauren has officially been selected for the 2024 Paris Olympics.
Before these accolades, Lauren ran for Flordia State University, where she was a multi-time All-American, ACC Champion, and multi-time school record holder. Alyssa represented Australia twice as a junior at the 2016 World Under 20 Championships and 2017 World Cross Country Championships.
Lauren has run 4:08 (1500m), 8:42 (3k), 14:57 (5k), and 30:35 (10k).
In today's conversation, Lauren takes me through her upbringing in sport, her incredible recent success, what it's like traveling around the world as a pro track athlete, joining Under Armour and their recent surge in the sport, her goals for Paris, and much more!
Take the time to be inspired by Lauren's story & wisdom!
Tap into the Lauren Ryan Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-The Under Armour Infinite Elite's: https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/p/running/mens_ua_infinite_elite_running_shoes/3027189.html?dwvar_3027189_color=400&dwvar_3027189_size=8&country=US¤cy=USD&cid=PS_DG_US_11351_PBN63WVI1Y_DSA_DSA&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwmYCzBhA6EiwAxFwfgJbOaxIiTfus-S6EpWP4Tqs1thRccZOz4JxiMU0REpARjLWWMit7-hoCImMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 6, 2024 • 44min
Daniel Simmons Speaks On His Historic Season, Chase Of An Olympic Trials Standard In The 5k (13:25), & How His Faith Has Propelled Him On & Off The Track
Today on the podcast is one of the greatest talents of our generation, Daniel Simmons!
Daniel is the most successful athlete in Utah's high school boys' running history. He was the 2024 Indoor Track and Field National Champion in the 5000m (NBNI), where he set a new National Record of 13:38; the day before, he led his team to the 4XMile relay anchor National Champions, running the second fastest time ever. Danny won the 2024 Arcadia Invitational 3200m Champion and 4XMile relay (anchor) Champions. He was the BYU Invitational 1600m Champion (new meet and state record),
2024 Utah 6A State Champion 1600m (New State Record 4:01) and 3200m (New State Record 8:36), as well as the 4X800 relay team State Champions.
Daniel has run 1:53 in the 800m, 4:01 in the 1600m at altitude, 8:36 in the 3200m at altitude (8:34 at sea level), and 13:38 in the 5k.
On the grass, Daniel is a 2XUtah 6A State XC Champion (2022, 2023), 2X NXR Southwest XC Champion (2022, 2023) and placed 2nd at NXN in 2022.
Get this, Daniel holds the course record on every course he has run on except the NXN course (Portland) where he has the 2nd fastest course time.
Daniel is also the BACK-TO-BACK Gatorade Boys National Boys POY.
In today's conversation, we go through Danny's past few months of training and racing and how pivotal a role his faith plays. I sincerely loved this conversation and know you'll find benefit from it.
Tap into the Daniel Simmons Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 5, 2024 • 21min
5-Star Football Recruit & Top Sprinter In The Country Brandon Arrington Shares His Journey To The Top Of Both Sports As Just A Sophmore In High School
Share this episode with someone you think would enjoy it! Apologizes for the mid audio quality. New podcast with Daniel Simmons tomorrow!
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 3, 2024 • 52min
Clay Shively On Having A Growth Mindset In His Final Year Of His HS Career & His Chase Of The Sub 4 Mile
Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is Clay Shively!
Clay is one of the fastest high school boys in the country, and he's only a junior. He holds PRs of 1:51 (800m), 4:00 (Mile), and 8:41 (2-Mile). Clay is a New Balance Indoor National Champion in the Mile, a 6x State Champion, and committed to run for NAU this upcoming Fall.
In today's conversation, Clay takes me through his mindset leading into the final few weeks of the season, his takeaways from his XC season, his pursuit of the 4-minute mile, why he is embracing the underdog mentality going into Brooks PR, and much more!
I legitimately always love my conversations with Clay, and I am confident you'll walk away from this one inspired and ready to reach for those big goals you've set.
You can catch Clay Shively running the 800m at the 2024 Brooks PR Meet in Seattle, Washington on June 12.
Tap into the Clay Shively Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-More info on the BROOKS PR Meet: https://www.soundrunning.run/brookspr
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

May 31, 2024 • 1h 4min
How Faith Grounds Stanford's Cole Sprout Through The Ups & Downs Of NCAA Running
Today on the podcast is one of the most loved guests in the history of The Running Effect, Cole Sprout!
Cole runs for Stanford University (Go tree!) and is entering his final year of school there this Fall.
Cole has run 3:56 in the Mile, 13:24 in the 5k, and 27:42 in the 10k. Cole won the 2023 NACACs in the 5k, is a Five-time All-American, placed eighth in the 5,000 at the 2023 U.S. Championships, and 16th in the 10,000.
In high school, Cole became one of the greatest HS runners of all-time in Colorado history. He was the first Colorado high school runner to break 9 minutes for 3,200 in a race run in Colorado. He ran 4:02.42 in the mile in a May, 2020, when a 4:02 was like what a 3:58 is today. He won six Gatorade state athlete of the year honors – three in track and three in cross country. He also won seven state championships – doubling in the 1,600 and 3,200 in 2018 and 2019, in addition to his cross country titles.
In today's conversation, Cole and I go very deep on a plethora of subjects today relating to his running and faith. Cole speaks very openly about his faith as a Christian and we lean into that today and how it affects his running and life.
We also talk about his last year of running and his plans for the upcoming months.
Take the time to be blessed by Cole's wisdom!
Tap into the Cole Sprout Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

May 29, 2024 • 34min
4:37 Miler Bethany Michalak On Her Pursuit Of History In Her Final High School Track Season
Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is Bethany Michalak!
Bethany is one of the fastest high school girls in the country. She holds PRs of 4:35 (1600), 4:37 (Mile), 9:57 (2-Mile), and 16:48 (5k at altitude).
In 2023, Bethany placed 2nd at NXN leading her team to a Team Title. In 2022, she placed 3rd NXN. She's a 4x Colorado State Champion.
Bethany placed 3rd at the Brooks PR in the Mile in 2023. She is returning to that same event at Brooks PR in 2024 to look to capture a title before leaving for NC State in the Fall. She's seeding second in a stacked lineup!
In today's conversation, Bethany shares her recent past months of success, her experience at the 2023 Brooks PR meet, returning for a chance at the crown in 2024, her ambitions for the future, and much more!
You can catch Bethany Michalak running the Mile at the 2024 Brooks PR Meet in Seattle, Washington on June 12.
Tap into the Bethany Michalak Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-More info on the BROOKS PR Meet: https://www.soundrunning.run/brookspr
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en

May 27, 2024 • 39min
A Conversation With The Fastest 13Yr In The WORLD: The Story Of Erik Semling - Future Olympian
Today on the podcast is the youngest guest in the history of The Running Effect Podcast.
His name is Erik Semling. He's in 8th grade and 13 years old from the state of Minnesota. As an 8th grader this past Fall, he placed 6th at his HIGH SCHOOL (yes, you read that right) State Meet.
Erik has run 15:09 in the 5k, which is an unofficial age group world record, and 31:17 in the 10k, which is an official age group world record. Again, this kid is only 13. In 2022 he became the AAU Indoor 3000m National Champion and has only improved since then.
In today's conversation, Erik takes me through his start in the sport, setting world records, an in-depth look at his training, his ambitions in sport, handling hate, and so much more!
I was quite frankly shocked with how articulate Erik was as an 8th grader. This episode was awesome, and I have no doubt will inspire you to chase after your goals all the more!
Tap into the Erik Semling Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

May 24, 2024 • 49min
Inside Running For The University Of Notre Dame With Carter Solomon
Today on the podcast is Carter Solomon.
If you're not familiar with Carter, he is an accomplished long-distance runner who has achieved significant success in both cross country and track. He is the 2023 ACC Outdoor Champion in the 10,000 meters and the 2022 ACC Cross Country Champion in the 8K. He has qualified for NCAA championships multiple times in both cross-country and track events. In the 2023 cross country season, he competed in six races, with his best performance being a 22nd-place finish at the NCAA DI Great Lakes Region Championships. During his junior year, he placed seventh in the 5000 meters at the NCAA Championships and set personal records in several events, including a 13:26.11 in the 5000 meters and a 3:57.13 in the mile. As a sophomore, he won the 3000 meters at the Blue & Gold Invite, and as a freshman, he posted notable performances including a PR in the 6K. In high school, Carter was a two-time All-American, four-time all-state selection, and led his team to a state championship, earning accolades such as Mr. Cross Country in Michigan and Michigan Gatorade Runner of the Year.
In today's conversation, Carter takes me through his journey and progression in sport, what it's going to take to ascend to the next level within the NCAA, his years and experience at The University of Notre Dame, his thoughts on the incoming recruiting class, and much more!
I always love these conversations with the top NCAA guys and have no doubt you'll find value from this one.
Tap into the Carter Solomon Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

May 22, 2024 • 38min
Owen Powell On His Pursuit Of The 4 Minute Mile In HS & Enjoying The Little Moments Along The Way
Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is the fastest junior in the country, Owen Powell!
Owen is one of the fastest high school boys in the country, and he's only a junior. He holds PRs of 49.38 (400m), 1:50.72 (800m), 2:23.22 (1000), 4:02.04 (Mile), 8:41.03 (3200m), and 14:46 on the grass.
He's the Washington 3A XC State Champion as well as the reigning State Champion in the 1600m. Owen won his first national title this winter in the 800m at Nike Indoor Nationals.
Owen also holds the Outdoor National Record in the 1000m run, by running 2:23.22.
Owen is entered into the 2024 Brooks PR Mile where he'll look to be a part of a historic race.
In today's conversation, Owen takes me through his historic junior year, his chase of the sub-4-minute mile, his national record in the 1k, growing up in the sport with parents who are legendary NCAA coaches, his ambitions for the 2024 Brooks PR meet, and so much more!
Tap into the Owen Powell Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo
S H O W N O T E S
-More info on the BROOKS PR Meet: https://www.soundrunning.run/brookspr
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com