The Human Cloud Podcast

Leaders, we need to talk about how organizations can scale their freelance usage. The freelance economy V1 & V2 was built for entrepreneurs and small businesses, not large companies. The problem as Barry Matthews, CEO of Open Assembly and 20+ year vet describes it, is that Enterprises don't know which partner to turn to, and don't know how to scale a model that's new, risky, and has no existing best practices. The impact is that while 90% of leaders are prioritizing freelancers according to HBR, seldom few leaders are succeeding at scaling their organization beyond small pilots and small working teams. Barry and Open Assembly is building one of the leading solutions to scale freelance talent across large Enterprises through a single Enterprise entry point, what they call the gateway. If you remember the guest Mina Bastawros of Airbus, he said the future of the freelance economy is enabling enterprises the Amazon experience of engaging talent. One place for multiple marketplaces, multiple skills, yet a seamless and convenient end user experience. In this episode we'll discuss how to do this, along with the key themes below: How outsourcing has become skill sourcing, and the freelance economy is just the digitization of sourcing The Enterprise business case, specifically speed, size, and elasticity of accessing talent The Enterprise challenge...(1) which platform for what need, (2) we're new and risky with no existing processes Why there won't be ONE marketplace Enjoy! http://humancloud.work/barry-matthews

Angie represents one of the sexiest shifts in our industry, the shift in the most talented corporate leaders choosing the freelance economy over the traditional career path. In her case, this looks like choosing to build her own fintech, Ruby Money, over the full time corporate opportunities that came from having experience at Microsoft, Instagram, and Visa to name a top few of her numerous logos. We'll get in the weeds over Angie's own freelancing path, her peers, and what's required to make the freelance economy a sustainable career path and industry. *Also shout out to Ernie Park of Part Time Tech for referring Angie! Enjoy! http://humancloud.work/angie-moody

On this episode we talk with Marc Clemens, CEO and Founder of CodeControl and 9am. Companies are recognizing the value of independent professionals, and despite challenges in worker classification and regulations, systems are becoming more streamlined for businesses to engage with freelancers. The convergence of entrepreneurial and freelance mindsets, along with platforms like Code Control, are allowing freelancers to focus on their skills while offloading business aspects to dedicated services, ultimately creating a more flexible, collaborative work environment. 00:09:20: The intersection of freelancing and entrepreneurship 00:15:18: Structuring and building a community 00:26:08: Attracting technical talent in marketplace 00:36:07: Creating optimized profiles for freelancers 00:44:30: Go-to-market strategy in the next 6 to 12 months Learn more: https://humancloud.work/marc-clemens/

Leaders, Ernie is the epitome of the most exciting trend in the freelance economy...future VP's choosing to freelance over the corporate ladder. Ernie runs Part Time Tech, a newsletter highlighting the benefits of freelance models for tech talent like him. Prior, he majored in computer science at MIT, and was a software engineer at Hubspot for over 7 years. It is crucial to understand how this new freelancer demographic thinks. A couple core differences: The best people were great in corporate, better fit their lifestyle and ability to make an impact (they don't need to follow the corporate 'Kingdoming') The best people aren't looking for a job, they're prioritizing opportunities The best people find work through peer connections 3:51, Why Ernie made the switch 5:11, Why working this way makes sense for top talent 11:18, Impact of the pandemic 14:31, The corporate disconnect 20:43, The future of fractional leaders 40:51, The real tradeoffs between 1099 & W2 41:49, What do marketplaces have to do Learn More: http://humancloud.work/ernie-park

Leaders, Andela is a leading marketplace for developers, engineers, product designers, and technology experts. Beyond the platform, Jeremy has spent over 15 years unlocking the power of global, digital networks to drive business change. Jeremy hit on a couple themes that every single one of us needs to be aware of. 1: The blurring of freelance and full time 2: The science of managing remote freelancers at scale 3: The macroeconomic climate, specifically how our space has never been more attractive to Enterprises He also gives us the inside scoop on how their recent acquisition of Qualified.io and Codewars enables them to assess and deliver human potential more effectively. Learn More: http://humancloud.work/jeremy-johnson

Leaders, the freelance economy is shifting from being dominated by large, horizontal marketplaces to small, niche, hyper relevant communities of freelancers. We call this freelance first, and Matt's 8+ year old community of 60,000 freelancers is the epitome of this. Built with education, mentoring, and opportunities as the three pillars, it is the epitome of how winning freelance networks will look in the next few years. There are a couple themes we want you to listen out for: Myths of the freelance economy, what's changed in the last 10 years, and what will change in the next 5 years How finding freelancers and freelancers finding work is going from push to pull thanks to the increasingly advanced search capabilities that can find the exact match of skillset/industry/levels of experience needed. What branding means for freelancers, why it's integral, and why blitzing social media is a damning strategy Only 1 in 5 individuals is succeeding in their first year of freelancing (this number is definitely higher) If you can master above, you can lead hyper-engaged, high quality, successful freelancer networks. Learn More: https://humancloud.work/matt-dowling

Leaders, are we really grown up enough to be a venture backable space? According to Gale, absolutely, as her fund is focused on the future of work, and invests in a number of freelance economy startups each year. We'll talk about what the venture space looks like for the freelance economy, how she sees the freelance economy in the future (hint...2 to 3x growth), and how freelance models can be well positioned for venture capital (hint...not ALL companies should be venture backed, and that's a good thing). A couple themes that we think you need to know asap... The freelance economy will never be one large marketplace because it's an industry of people, nuance, and intricate user experiences The freelance economy is a natural societal evolution of what people want out of work and what technology now allows for Consulting can be a lucrative business on it's own without venture capital Learn more: http://humancloud.work/gale-wilkinson

Leaders, your head will be sore from the technical product learnings Ben will teach us. Ben is an entrepreneur that has built freelance related products for over 10 years. From a technology and product lens, we answered two key questions, what has changed in the last 10 years that makes now the right time for the freelance economy, and what will change in the next 5 years. Hint 1...what changed was (1) consumer behavior with matching related technologies (think the taboo of E-Harmony vs the acceptance of Hinge, this is what's happened with the gig economy being taboo and now freelancing being preferred), (2) Cloud computing enabling digital sourcing and collaboration, (3) effective data science search algorithms. Hint 2...what will change in the next 5 years is (1) bundling of a singular plumbing infrastructure with partnerships between marketplaces built on top, (2) single pains of glass and identity tokens. We know...very geeky, but very important for being able to plan and build for where the puck is going in the freelance economy. 6:18 - Defining where work is going...project based, open 8:38 - The problem with talent acquisition today and where it's going 13:41 - Why the freelance economy isn't already the default 21:26 - How to balance outcomes and process 23:13 - HR needs to change their metrics 30:38 - Why hasn't LinkedIn built a freelance marketplace 35:33 - What's different today 46:32 - What will change in 5 years Find Ben's Leader Portal: humancloud.work/ben-ross

Leaders, our industry is in the midst of a massive transformation away from broad horizontal marketplaces and towards skill specific platforms. Take Paro for finance/accounting, or Catalant & Graphite for management consulting, the future of our industry belongs to marketplaces that can use technology and freelancer first practices to ensure a consistent, low friction, high quality experience. NerdApp is the IT ecosystem that best personifies where the freelance economy is headed. NerdApp stemmed from Kelvin's personal experience in the IT services industry for 15+ years, where he saw the inefficiencies and poor experiences that the legacy IT industry routinely delivers. Warning: We're going to get real geeky on the software and user experience driving NerdApp. If you're a nerd or an entrepreneur, you'll love it. 11:12 - Why the freelance economy, the combo of Kevon's corporate experience and the problems in IT Services 17:31 - Secret sauce behind the meteoric 15 month growth of NerdApp 20:59 - What's wrong with the IT Services Industry 22:24 - Why doesn't Nerdapp already exist 27:38 - The importance of user experience 29:42 - Biggest barrier of the freelance economy is company education 30:52 - Biggest barrier of growing marketplaces is the first experience 44:27 - What will change in the next 5 years Find Kelvin's Leader Portal: https://humancloud.work/kelvin-wetherill

Leaders, what if freelancers are both your future Directors and your future employee role models? That's the future for leading brands as leaders like Adrian Tan drive the best ROI. Enjoy! 3:43 - Defining a freelancer, "was a freelancer prior, now fractional" 7:20 - Why Adrian freelances 10:45 - Entrepreneur vs solopreneur 11:29 - How he got his first 3 clients 14:34 - Perception of freelancing in Singapore 21:00 - His view on marketplaces 25:15 - How Covid made people comfortable with remote, re-set their relationship with work, and accelerated freelancing 31:38 - His portfolio (3 retainers) and how he manages his time 38:47 - How fractional is the most efficient way to work