
21st Century Work Life
Brought to you by Virtual not Distant, the 21st Century Work Life podcast looks at leading and managing remote teams, online collaboration and working in distributed organisations.
Join Pilar Orti, guests & co-hosts as they shine the spotlight on the most relevant themes and news relevant to the modern knowledge worker.
Latest episodes

Mar 9, 2020 • 13min
Suddenly Working from Home
A short impromptu conversation between Pilar and guest Jacqui Walpole, on some of the issues knowledge workers might face from suddenly having to work from home. You can connect with today's guest over on https://twitter.com/JacquiWalpole and https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquiwalpole/ For help to make your online collaboration work, and lead your team from a distance, visit www.virtualnotdistant.com

Mar 5, 2020 • 31min
WLP225 Connection and Disconnection Beyond Work: The Wider Impact of Disconnection
This is Virtual Not Distant's third podcast episode in our special series with ShieldGEO, and you can catch the first and second one if you missed them (and subscribe to them in our main feed wherever you get your podcast). We’re thrilled with the feedback received on this series from our listeners, including from many of our previous guests (and Pilar’s mum :-) ). We love the way it’s helping us think about the way podcasts themselves build connection, so we’ll return to that theme very soon. But today, our guest host Bree Caggiati explores what happens when we find ourselves disconnected, from the people we work with and the work we’re doing? Dr Julianne Hold-Lunstad reminded us that humans have evolved to be social animals, and that kind of collectiveness has helped us survive - so loneliness is a similar biological drive to hunger or pain, we crave its resolution. But we don’t always follow our best biological imperatives, and Brian Rhea talks about how easy it is as an introvert to avoid meetings and encounters when inconvenient, and therefore to avoid investing in the networks that can support you when you really need it. And Marcus Wermuth reminds us that we all need different levels of interaction with others anyway, especially when it competes head to head with focused working time. Collaboration promotes creativity, Julianne points out, so it’s worth all of us being aware of its value in terms of our output as well as our mood and well-being. And Richard MacKinnon agrees, that we should not see social contact as subtracting from productivity in a zero-sum game - instead, it’s an important investment in the success and performance of the team as a whole. He reminds us that feelings of loneliness have very little to do with actually being alone - instead it’s all about the perceptions of the quality of relationships and the social connections we have, and it has a direct impact on the engagement of the whole team. ShieldGEO’s Tim Burgess agrees, and has that employee engagement builds commitment which helps overcome the inevitable bad days and bumps in the road that we all experience at work. And when you work from home in particular, bad days and bad moods can do more extended psychological damage, with the absence of the decompression buffer zone a commute represents. Emotional contagion can impact on your household and community too, spreading ripples outward in unexpected directions. Julianne’s research has added to the growing evidence that our relationships influence our emotional well-being, but also affect our physical health - a connection which is often poorly recognised and understood. More socially connected people actually live longer, on average, and loneliness has similar mortality risk factors to obesity and air pollution. ONS data suggests that 2.4m UK adults suffer from chronic loneliness, so we need to deal with this on a societal level, not least as it has measurable economic costs. So, the next episode in this series (21st Century Work Life episode 227, releasing on 19th March 2020), will start exploring some of the remedies and strategies to try and fix this problem, which goes way beyond the remote work sphere. But we’d love to know what you think about these vital issues, and anything else. Please contact us, or you can tweet Virtual Not Distant, or Pilar and Maya directly, with any of your thoughts and ideas.

Feb 27, 2020 • 59min
WLP224 What's Going On and Do Online Meetings Matter?
This podcast is brought to you by Virtual Not Distant Ltd. For full shownotes, and details of Pilar Orti's new book Online Meetings That Matter, please see https://www.virtualnotdistant.com/podcasts/online-meetings-connections. And here's What's Going On: Coronavirus Forces World’s Largest Work-From-Home Experiment - This article reflects a moving target in a fast-moving situation, as it was published 2nd February, but it indicates an ongoing phenomenon. Virtual Not Distant do not advise waiting for a global health crisis as a strategy for transformation, but it’s great if technology can rise to the occasion and encourage people to try new things - so long as they don’t judge the remote-first approach from the outcome of an ad-hoc reactive solution. Google's Plan to Reduce Its Carbon Footprint - For us, this piece triggered lots of reflection about the carbon footprint of digital ‘things’ in general. We think of remote as very ‘green’, but data, tech and storage does have a cost in terms of energy, when you scale up. Or even how they suck power on your own laptop… See also: Why Irish data centre boom is complicating climate efforts. Flexible Workers Held Back by Tech Trouble - Some interesting research about how people feel about the tech they use, and when they’re remote they’re typically less ‘supported’ with this than in a colocated office. Do we need better training, or better tech? Possibly both, and there’s a degree of convergence. And we also need a strategy about how we use them to support our collaboration (PSA: Virtual Not Distant can help with this!) You really need to lock down your Trello boards... right now - Oops. Public Trello boards are just that, meaning search-indexable. And this researcher from Wired found things in some public boards which definitely should not be there. And in other apps too, it’s easily done - so this is a timely reminder to check that you understand how the apps you use are secured, who you are making content visible to at all times, the implications. It might mean digging into some settings and instructions… which is time well spent. https://lp.buffer.com/state-of-remote-work-2020 - This comprehensive annual report has just been released. Please take part in research like this, policymakers need it! Comparative data now shows that the more report you are, the happier you are, on balance - including ‘how remote’ your organisation is (hybrid set-ups are more mixed in satisfaction, and this segment is fastest-growing). The challenges and downsides identified will not surprise any of our regular listeners… But there is SO much to dig into in this research, we urge you to check it out and read it in detail. This topical segment was recorded on 12th February 2020

Feb 20, 2020 • 29min
WLP223: Discovering the Barriers to Connection
Welcome to the second in our special series in association with ShieldGEO, with our guest host Bree Cagiatti, in discussion with an amazing panel of guests: In this episode we explore how disconnection presents itself, and we started by talking to Laurel Farrer, remote work advocate and founder of Distribute Consulting. Developer Brian Rhea has identified this too, and is building an app to help — in response to an enquiring tweet which blew up into a huge validation of the existence of a problem of loneliness for remote workers. Teresa Douglas, author of Working Remotely, is presently researching psychological safety in remote teams. Tim Burgess, ShieldGEO co-founder, first experienced loneliness and disconnection in his first job, where he worked alone in an office in a new country — not remote then, but deeply isolated. Asia Hundley (also from ShieldGEO) pointed out the way that excitement can mask such feelings at first in a new situation (in her case, a new country). Occupational Psychologist Richard MacKinnon says it’s difficult to spot, because people can seem outwardly very happy, while reporting feelings of loneliness only if asked. And Dr Julianne Holt-Lunstad, who has researched this area extensively, reminds us of the persistent social stigma and shame around admissions of loneliness and other emotional needs. So if you’re feeling disconnected and alone as a remote worker, we hope this episode has been both reassuring and insightful — your situation is not uncommon, and we’ll have more to come in terms of how you can help yourself and your colleagues throughout this series. Starting from self awareness, you can begin to identify where you might be able to make changes in your total set of work-life circumstances, and use that insight to help others too.

Feb 13, 2020 • 1h 24min
WLP222 Online Communities
Hello and welcome to this multi-guest episode, where we delve into the world of online communities in the context of remote work. This podcast is brought to you by Virtual Not Distant Ltd. Please see full shownotes at https://www.virtualnotdistant.com/podcasts/online-communities-remote-work. Guest interviews: 7.48 Lisette Sutherland - Collaboration Superpowers 28.58 Alex Hearst: Hoxby 48.13 Mark Kilby, Agile Florida 1.06.34 Martin Gilbraith Chair of IAF England Wales

Feb 6, 2020 • 42min
WLP221 Connection and Disconnection in Remote Teams.
Welcome to our new series of 7 episodes on the theme of “connection and disconnection in remote teams”, in association with Virtual Not Distant partners Shield GEO. Shield GEO help businesses employ people globally by taking care of all the associated administration, legal and financial - supporting truly global remote work, in a way that’s a great alignment with everything we value at Virtual Not Distant. So we’re very excited to be expanding our podcasting repertoire with this new collaboration. Our host for this series is Bree Caggiati, and for this inaugural episode she is joined by Shield GEO Tim Burgess, as well as Pilar and Maya of course. The chosen theme began as a conversation initially about loneliness in remote teams - a natural part of the maturing of the remote work conversation, as more and more people open up to the possibilities it offers. But this evolved into an exploration of both sides of the coin: connection and disconnection. Tim reflected on a research they had conducted with Sydney University students about the remote work community and what their needs were - what questions were being asked online, and not being well answered. The idea of disconnection due to distance emerged strongly there, as part of the context of greater awareness of emotional well-being more generally in the social and business discourse (and let’s remember as well that people in traditional colocated workplaces can also feel isolated and disconnected). The extent to which hirers and employers are responsible for the mental health of their team is also under the microscope, but perhaps not all managers are comfortable talking about it at any stage (and this too is not an issue limited to remote work). Where do the boundaries emerge, between duty of care, self-sufficiency, privacy, and productivity, in these sensitive conversations, as people emerge from the ‘honeymoon period’ of a new role? Bree herself is physically isolated from the rest of the ShieldGEO team, being based in Canada while the others are in Australia - making this a truly global, 4-country collaboration, incidentally. Bree has found using a co-working space more regularly has helped overcome isolation. But the issue is very polarising, and early adopters of remote work (especially advocates, and dare we say, podcasters in this space…) are highly self-selecting. Many of us have never experienced loneliness, working in the way we chose - but as more organisations ‘go remote’, it inevitably becomes less about individual choice for every remote worker. Disconnection can come from many sources in addition to loneliness. It can be related to trust and autonomy, and the visible teamwork activities we consult on in Virtual Not Distant are all about connecting through the work itself by making that manifest. And this is important because sometimes we feel more connected to our colleagues at work, than those in our local communities and social networks. In the mainstream conversation, often technology gets blamed for alienation and disconnection, but actually it can play a really positive role, if we use it in the right way, and remote work can lead by example on this. Perhaps it’s easy to blame the factor of remote work, particularly working from home, if we feel disengaged from other people generally, but there could be many causes. Work can provide structure and tangibility in our day which might be absent in our personal lives, and maybe we need to better tune in to our own emotional and physical needs, when there’s no manager or colleague to reflect off in our immediate environment. We talk about great remote workers having personal attributes of resilience and flexibility, and emotional self-awareness is a part of this - the ability to understand our own needs for self-care or rest or exercise or space, and ensure they are addressed before a crisis happens. This includes knowing how and where you work best, and constructing that environment around you. Recruiting for these personal qualities, instilling a culture during onboarding that these issues are for real, these are challenges for any onboarding process. Tim and the Shield GEO team have recognised that in training new hires generally, that there’s a difficulty in taking on board large amounts of complex information, so finding the right time to bring up these issues of how they’re really feeling emotionally needs a lot of thought. But by planting the seeds with new people that the organisation cares how these concerns might at least make it easier for new colleagues to explore more openly when the time is right. And with so much to explore during this series, we’re really looking forward to hearing from listeners about how these issues are impacting you, what your concerns are with connection and disconnection our remote teams. Please do join the conversation in any way you choose, including anonymously/confidentially if you prefer, via email or our contact form.

Jan 30, 2020 • 1h 3min
WLP220 The Unexpected Risks Facing Remote Teams
This podcast is brought to you by Virtual Not Distant ltd - please see full shownotes and much more, at https://www.virtualnotdistant.com/podcasts/unexpected-risks. What’s going on? What are the trends for Human Resources in 2020? Here are 20 of them, covered in breadth rather than depth - we could group them under themes of transparency, collaboration (“Slack” is a trend now apparently!), and making work visible. Interestingly this is not a list aimed at remote teams, but that’s not immediately obvious. Good news for collaboration tool deployment: How Zoom Better Enables Patient Care, Employee Development at Moffitt Cancer Center and London Ambulance trials phone video stream platform It’s fantastic to see online meeting tools making a difference, even saving lives, in diverse settings which are so far removed from our knowledge-worker bubble, and here are two great examples from the world of medicine. Templates in MS Teams - now for medical and all sorts of other organisations and teams there are prebuilt templates, again reflecting the differentiation in use of these platforms, and the need for rapid onboarding and integration of increasingly complex tools for niche uses. Top 100 Companies with Remote Jobs in 2020 - some surprising ’stealth remote’ employers in this list, and a variety of industries are also reflected. Do you work remotely for one of them? We’d love to hear from you! Study: 64% Of Comms Leaders Would Use A Virtual PR Agency - A reminder perhaps of how early in adoption we are, with the corollary that apparently 36% of clients think this option is still inferior, and the distinction of a ‘virtual agency’ being a qualitatively different thing is evident. Professional Development & Networking for Remote - Maya was happily back in the ‘remote work bubble’ at this online networking event with Workplaceless, discussing the challenges of hybrid teams and transitioning - it’s well worth exploring their upcoming events, and certification programme.

Jan 16, 2020 • 1h 2min
WLP219 OnBoarding (or Integration) in Remote Teams and Organisations
Hello and welcome to the first episode of 2020! This podcast is brought to you by Virtual Not Distant Ltd. Please see full shownotes at https://www.virtualnotdistant.com/podcasts/onboarding-integration 02.40 Marcus Wermuth Engineering Manager for the Mobile Team at Buffer. You can with Marcus on LinkedIn, Twitter, and via his website. 7 Ways to Set Up a New Hire for Success,” by Michael D. Watkins. 27.43 Mandy Garner, managing editor of Working Mums and Working Wise 33.30 The Role of Bots in Onboarding How to Improve New Hire Engagement and Onboarding for Technical Employees Using AI and Chatbots. 38:05 Mark Kilby, Agile Coach You can hear more from Mark in Episodes 95, 175, 197, on twitter, and his website. We want to answer YOUR big questions about work/remote work in 2020, so please contact us. Or you can tweet Virtual Not Distant, or Pilar and Maya directly, with any of your thoughts and ideas

Jan 9, 2020 • 31min
WLP218 Bonus Episode: Leading a People Ops Distributed Team with Laila von Alvensleben
Welcome to episode 218 of the 21st Century Work Life podcast, which is actually a bonus episode, made up of my conversation with Laila von Alvensleben from Mural. mural.co https://twitter.com/lailavona LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lailavon/ https://lailavon.com/ If you're a regular listener, you will know that the last batch of guest episodes have focused on a topic, with contributions from different guests. And the way in which I have been working on this has been by recording full interviews with them, and then finding the bits that went together best. What this has meant is that I've got some longer pieces with some guests that I'd quite like to share with you. And what better way to do this than at the beginning of the year, while we wait for the first episode on our schedule to be released on 16th January 2020. So remember that this show is brought to you by Virtual not Distant, a London-based company helping managers and their teams transition to an office-optional approach, and my name is Pilar Orti, and I'm the Director. You can find everything we do over at virtualnodistant.com and you're welcome to get in touch with me on Twitter too @PilarOrti

Jan 2, 2020 • 43min
WLP217 Bonus Episode: Being a Manager in a Distributed Company with Marcus Wermuth
Welcome to episode 217 of the 21st Century Work Life podcast, which is actually a bonus episode, made up of my conversation with Marcus Wermuth from Buffer. Find out more about him over at www.marcuswermuth.com and follow him on Twitter https://twitter.com/mwermuth If you're a regular listener, you will know that the last batch of guest episodes have focused on a topic, with contributions from different guests. And the way in which I have been working on this has been by recording full interviews with them, and then finding the bits that went together best. What this has meant is that I've got some longer pieces with some guests that I'd quite like to share with you. And what better way to do this than at the beginning of the year, while we wait for the first episode on our schedule to be released on 16th January 2020. So remember that this show is brought to you by Virtual not Distant, a London-based company helping managers and their teams transition to an office-optional approach, and my name is Pilar Orti, and I'm the Director. You can find everything we do over at virtualnodistant.com and you're welcome to get in touch with me on Twitter too @PilarOrti Let's go into the conversation, I hope you enjoy it.