

AFO|Wealth Management Forward
For Entrepreneurs, Financial Advisors and Accountants
AFO|Wealth Management Forward is a podcast at the intersection of accounting, wealth management, behavioral finance, technology, and entrepreneurship.
Designed for CPAs and financial advisors to help them grow their practice by going beyond the numbers. Each episode features conversations with industry leaders and subject matter experts who share the secrets to their success. From the transformative power of AI to the human-first principles of behavioral finance, we dive into the emotional and psychological aspects of money and meaning.
Designed for CPAs and financial advisors to help them grow their practice by going beyond the numbers. Each episode features conversations with industry leaders and subject matter experts who share the secrets to their success. From the transformative power of AI to the human-first principles of behavioral finance, we dive into the emotional and psychological aspects of money and meaning.
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Jan 14, 2026 • 38min
Break the Mold in Action: Alan Whitman Leads a New Multidisciplinary Firm
In this episode, Rory speaks with Alan Whitman, former CEO and Chairman of Baker Tilly, new CEO of Nichols Cauley, and author of Break the Mold: How to Achieve Transformational Change, Scale, and Growth Simultaneously. Discover how Alan led Baker Tilly through 3x revenue growth and over 20 acquisitions—not by chasing numbers, but by changing mindsets. Learn why strategy isn’t about activity, but about clarity of direction, and how firms can grow by building “communication, sales, and talent engines” that scale through systems, not individual effort. Alan outlines why “bigger isn’t better—better is better,” how language creates alignment, and why discipline equals freedom in partner-led firms. He also reveals insights from his new role leading a private equity–backed multidisciplinary platform focused on serving SMBs in the Southeast. Want to know what Alan means by “fist to five,” “sugar highs,” and freedom within a framework? Find out the answers to these questions and more in this Break the Mold conversation with Alan Whitman.

Dec 31, 2025 • 35min
Best of 2025
In this Best of 2025 episode, Rory brings together standout moments from conversations across accounting, wealth management, behavioral finance, and technology that all point to one theme: real progress happens when advisors focus on people, not just numbers. From reframing retirement as a question of identity and purpose, to understanding why money decisions are deeply emotional, guests explore how human behavior shapes financial outcomes. The episode also highlights how AI and blockchain are moving from buzzwords to real tools, why holistic advice requires collaboration across disciplines, and how better questions can lead to stronger relationships and better client follow-through. Whether the topic is student loans showing up later in life, navigating firm leadership and deal structures, or helping clients align values with decisions, this episode reflects the evolving role of the advisor as guide, partner, and trusted voice. Want to hear the moments that shaped the conversation this year and the insights that will carry into what’s next? Find out in this Best of 2025 episode.

Dec 16, 2025 • 35min
Conversation with Your Financial Therapist - Erika Wasserman
In this episode, Rory speaks with Erika Wasserman, Certified Financial Therapist, keynote speaker, and author of Conversations With Your Financial Therapist, about how our earliest money experiences shape financial decisions throughout life. Discover what financial therapy really is and why money challenges are rarely about the numbers alone. Erika shares her MONEY framework for improving money conversations, explains how childhood “money moments” influence adult behavior, and outlines practical ways CPAs and advisors can help clients navigate emotionally charged topics like parenting, caregiving, divorce, and retirement transitions. They explore how better questions, storytelling, and compassion can deepen trust, reduce shame, and improve follow-through. Erika also discusses how professionals can identify when mindset work is needed and how financial therapists complement traditional advisory services. Want to know how improving money conversations can strengthen client relationships and outcomes? Find out in this insightful conversation with Erika Wasserman.

Nov 28, 2025 • 33min
Inside the New Era of Firm Growth and Consolidation w/ Philip Whitman
In this episode, Rory speaks with Phil Whitman, President and CEO of Whitman Advisory, one of the leading advisory organizations serving CPA firms nationwide. Phil shares how his firm evolved from succession and M&A consulting into a multi-service advisory platform helping firms improve profitability, recruit talent, and prepare for the what comes next in the world of accounting. He explains how private equity has reshaped the accounting profession, what firms can learn from early deals like EisnerAmper, Citrin Cooperman, and Cherry Bekaert, and why 2026 could be “the year of the tuck-in.” Phil also outlines the four keys to building a world-class firm—communication, trust, partner alignment, and accountability—and why culture and capital structure matter as much as multiples. Want to know how CPAs can position their firms to attract investment, grow through acquisition, and thrive in the age of private equity? Find out in this conversation with Phil Whitman.

Nov 14, 2025 • 36min
Advisory in the Age of AI & Altman's $1.4 Trillion Dollar Bet w/ Dr. Sean Stein Smith
In this episode, Rory speaks with Dr. Sean Stein Smith, CPA, professor at Lehman College, Forbes contributor, and advisory board member of the Wall Street Blockchain Alliance, to explore how artificial intelligence and blockchain are transforming the accounting and advisory profession. Discover how blockchain delivers trust and transparency while AI drives speed, pattern recognition, and efficiency across payments, banking, finance and wealth management. Sean discusses how firms like BlackRock and SoFi are leveraging AI to automate decision-making and enhance client experience, and he shares his perspective on Sam Altman’s $1.4 trillion AI bet and whether we are in a bubble or a sustainable transformation. Find out why the real opportunity lies in combining technology with human insight and why communication, soft skills, or what he prefers to call business skills, will define the next generation of advisory professionals. Sean also shares how automation is shifting firms from transactions to transformation and why the CPA license remains a powerful mark of trust in a digital-first world. Want to know how CPAs and advisors can harness AI to elevate their services and strengthen client relationships? Find out in this AI & Blockchain podcast with Dr. Sean Stein Smith.

Oct 30, 2025 • 39min
The Human Side of Retirement w/ Dan Haylett
In this episode, Rory speaks with Dan Haylett, author of The Retirement You Didn’t See Coming and host of the Humans vs. Retirement podcast, about the psychological and emotional side of life after work. Dan explains why retirement is less of a math problem and more of a human transition, one that requires redefining purpose, identity, and structure. They discuss how couples can plan for “yours, mine, and ours” retirements, why clarity follows action, and how to overcome the productivity trap that often replaces purpose with busyness. Dan also shares the three stages of the Retirement Reinvention Curve, which are Release, Rebuild, and Reignite, along with the five pillars of a thriving retirement: purpose, identity, relationships, structure, and wellbeing. Want to know how advisors can guide clients through the messy middle and help them build a life of meaning beyond the spreadsheets? Find out in this insightful conversation with Dan Haylett.

Oct 16, 2025 • 20min
The New Rules of Student Loan Planning w/ Alex Bottom & Ryan Galiotto
In this episode, Rory speaks with Alex Bottom, CEO of Finology Sofware, and Ryan Galiotto, CFP®, CSLP®, founder of the Student Loan Help Network, about how advisors and CPAs can prepare for the sweeping changes coming to student loan planning. They discuss the One Big Beautiful Bill (OBBB) and how it will reshape repayment plans, extend terms, and impose new borrowing caps beginning in 2026. Alex explains how tax filing status and forgiveness rules can significantly impact repayment and why understanding these nuances is critical for CPAs. Ryan highlights the growing number of retirees carrying Parent PLUS loans and how this generational shift is redefining financial priorities for families. Together, they outline why student loan planning is moving from niche to mainstream and how practitioners can integrate it as a value-added service. Are you ready to help clients navigate the new repayment landscape? Want to know how to turn student loan guidance into an opportunity for deeper client relationships? Find out the answers to these questions and more in this important conversation with Alex Bottom and Ryan Galiotto.

Oct 3, 2025 • 22min
Integrating Life Insurance into Holistic Financial Plans
In this episode, Rory speaks with Keith Friedman, CEO and founder of FBO Strategies and creator of the Carbyne Allocation®, about why life insurance deserves a fresh look as part of holistic planning. Keith addresses common concerns that permanent insurance is too costly, rigid, or underperforming, and explains how policy design and communication can change those perceptions. He notes that when structured appropriately, life insurance can provide flexibility, liquidity, and even options to help cover long-term care costs. The conversation explores how modern policies go beyond the death benefit to offer access to cash value and serve as a stabilizing element during market volatility. Keith also shares his perspective on the importance of transparency in compensation and why education is key to shifting industry perceptions. Want to know how CPAs and advisors can use life insurance to strengthen holistic financial plans? Find out in this insightful conversation with Keith Friedman.

Sep 19, 2025 • 25min
At the Intersection of People, Process, and Purpose w/ Will Hill & John Fenton
In this episode, Rory speaks with Will Hill, founder of Will Hill Consults, and John Fenton, CEO of John J. Fenton Executive Coaching, about their contributions to The Holistic Guide to Wealth Management and how firms can strengthen culture, manage change, and support their people. Will shares why firms need a repeatable process for change management, how to avoid shiny object syndrome, and the importance of aligning initiatives with purpose and client strategy. John highlights why culture starts with why, the role of psychological safety and trust in retaining talent, and how managers can be better supported through delegation, time management, and leadership development. Together, they explore how firms can cut through the noise, improve communication by eliminating hidden assumptions, and create environments where people feel valued and connected to something bigger than themselves. They also emphasize why investing in people at every level from staff to partners is the foundation for long-term growth and firm resilience. Want to know how to balance people, process, and purpose to build stronger and more resilient firms? Find out in this insightful conversation with Will Hill and John Fenton.

Sep 5, 2025 • 18min
Healthcare Planning: The Overlooked Piece of Holistic Advice
In this episode, Rory sits down with Christine Simone, founder of Caribou Wealth (now part of Move Health), to explore why healthcare planning is the missing piece in holistic advice for CPAs and advisors. Christine shares her journey of building a platform that helps firms support clients with Medicare, marketplace coverage, and employer plans—areas that are often overlooked despite being one of the top expenses in retirement. Discover how to identify client red flags, keep track of key enrollment deadlines, and use strategies like premium tax credits to reduce costs. Learn why healthcare can act as a barrier to big life transitions, such as starting a business or retiring before 65, and how addressing it empowers clients to move forward with clarity and confidence. Christine also unpacks how firms can implement healthcare planning without becoming insurance experts by partnering with the right resources and leveraging technology. Want to know how healthcare planning can save clients thousands and strengthen trust? Want to know the key dates and life events when healthcare needs to be addressed? Find out the answers to these questions and more in this insightful conversation with Christine Simone.


