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The Cloudcast (@cloudcastpod) is the industry's #1 Cloud Computing podcast, and the place where Cloud meets AI. Co-hosts Aaron Delp (@aarondelp) & Brian Gracely (@bgracely) speak with technology and business leaders that are shaping the future of business. Topics will include Cloud Computing | AI | AGI | ChatGPT | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Platform Engineering | DevOps | Big Data | ML | Security | Kubernetes | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS .
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Feb 24, 2017 • 37min
The Cloudcast #289 - Enabling Voice-First Ecosystems
Aaron talks with Alex Linares (@linaresa, Co-founder & CPO, @VoiceLabsCo) andTerren Peterson (@Terren_in_VA, Alexa Dev Champ, @CapitalOne) about the emerging voice operating system market, driven by products like Amazon Echo/Alexa and Google Assistance, as well as the range of applications and data analysis being built upon these platforms.Show Links:Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videosCapital One DevExchangeVoiceLabs WebsiteVoice Report by VoiceLabsTerren's Alex Champion PageShow Notes:Topic 1 - We’ve got two great guests tonight. Adam and Terren, please introduce yourselves and give us some of your backgrounds.Topic 2 - Let’s talk about the “voice-first” market. It’s no longer cool for people to use their telephone for “voice calls”, but talking to computers is an exploding market. Give us the basics.Topic 3 - Terren, you’re an “Alexa Dev Champ”. Give us a sense of what the Alexa skills mean for your work at Capital One? How does this tie into the future of banking or credit cards?Topic 4 - Alex, Voice Labs is focused on the analytics behind these voice services. Can you give us a sense of not only the technology behind your analytics platform, but some of the interesting use-cases companies are able to create with your analytics?Topic 5 - Cloud Computing has completely reshaped the role of IT and how developers interact with resources. How is this voice-first movement going to reshape industries, or open up new industry capabilities?Topic 6 - Many people know the physical devices from Google or Amazon, but these capabilities are being embedded in many other devices. How far will we see the voice-first capabilities expand? (cars, phones, etc.)Topic 7 - What’s the best way for developers to get started with this technology?Feedback?Email:show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter:@thecloudcastnet or @serverlesscastYouTube:Cloudcast Channel

Feb 17, 2017 • 28min
The ServerlessCast #2 - Kubeless - Serverless Framework for Kubernetes
Brian talks with Sebastien Goasguen (@sebgoa, Founder @skippbox)about his experience with containers, the focus of Skippbox, market demand for serverless, the architecture of Kubeless, and how the emerging serverless+kubernetes projects need to evolve.Show Links:Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videosSkippbox acquired by Bitnami on March 7, 2017Skippbox websiteKubeless - Serverless Framework for Kubernetes (GitHub)“Docker Cookbook” by Sebastien Goasguen (O’Reilly)Show Notes:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us some of your background, as well as what you’re doing at Skippbox these days.Topic 2 - Before we jump into “Kubeless”, let’s talk about what you’re hearing around serverless in the market today.Topic 3 - Tell us about the Kubeless architecture.Topic 4 - With different serverless functions, they initially support a limited subset of languages. Since Kubernetes is language agnostic, why does the limitation exist, or how complex is it to add new languages?Topic 5 - You mention on the project’s GitHub page that there are other “serverless on Kubernetes” alternatives out there (Funktions, Fission, OpenWhisk, etc.). Do you expect that one of these projects will emerge, or do you see these starting to merge and just become a job type within Kubernetes?Topic 6 - Let’s come back to Skippbox. You have a focus on Kubernetes and the tooling around making it easier to deploy and run. What are you seeing in the Kubernetes market and when are people engaging with Skippbox?Feedback?Email:show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter:@thecloudcastnet or @serverlesscast YouTube:Cloudcast Channel

Feb 10, 2017 • 40min
The Cloudcast #288 - Understanding Public Cloud Spending Trends
Aaron and Brian talk with Mat Ellis (@matellis, Founder/CEO of @cloudability) about the evolution of public cloud spending, the knowledge level of cloud buyers, how AWS is trending vs. Azure and GCP, the market for Reserved Instances and how companies are beginning to think about Serverless computing.
Show Links:
Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videos
Cloudability website
Mat’s “Cloud Prediction” from 2008
Show Notes:
Topic 1 - Great to have you back on the show. First off, how are things going at Cloudability? We see that Cloudability is now managing the costs of nearly 1/3rd of all AWS usage.
Topic 2 - The last time we talked, most of the public clouds did not report revenues, but we’re now seeing that broken out. Give us a high-level view of what’s happening with spending in the public clouds? How has it evolved over the last couple years?
Topic 3 - Cloudability has always had a strong focus on AWS, but what are you seeing in the market in terms of demand for Azure, GCP or IBM’s cloud?
Topic 4 - Cloudability focuses a lot on not just cost awareness, but helping companies be smart about planning purchases via Reserved Instances. How is the learning curve evolving for the market? Are their secondary markets emerging for Reserved Instances?
Topic 5 - Do you get asked a lot by companies to help them compare internal costs vs. public cloud costs?
Topic 6 - Let’s talk about “serverless”. How much interest do you hear about that, and what sort of costing questions are people asking?
Feedback?
Email:show at thecloudcast dot net
Twitter:@thecloudcastnet or @serverlesscast
YouTube:Cloudcast Channel

Feb 1, 2017 • 32min
The Cloudcast #287 - Venture Capital and the Cloud Native Landscape
Aaron and Brian talk with RedPoint Ventures (Scott Raney (@sraney) General Partner at RedPoint Venture Capital (@redpointvc)) about the evolving role of Venture Capital, the Cloud Native Landscape, open source business models, how to many rapid change, and competing / partnering with AWS.
Show Links:
Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videos
RedPoint Ventures website
RedPoint “Memory Leak” Blog
The Cloud Native Landscape (Project) (with CNCF)
Show Notes:
Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We always love to get a Venture Capital perspective on the show from time to time. Tell us about yourself and maybe a little bit about your current areas of focus.
Topic 2 - At the recent CNCF event (KubeCon, etc.), Dan Kohn introduced the Cloud Native Landscape, which was built in partnership with RedPoint Ventures. Help us understand the framework and how people are using it today.
Topic 3 - Many of the things on that landscape are either open source projects or companies that are commercializing some aspect of those projects. We’ve heard various theories on what those business models look like, but I’m curious about how you advise your companies in this space.
Topic 4 - Let’s talk for a second about the pace of change. Things are moving faster than ever. How do you advise companies to build their business, whether it’s long-term or IPO or M&A, or just survival techniques?
Topic 5 - Twilio is one of your portfolio companies, and they were highlighted at AWS re:Invent last week. AWS often creates services that overlap companies that run on the platform. How much does someone like Twilio worry that there will be something like “AWS Telephone” being announced in 2017?
Topic 6 - We just had an election here in the US and a certain amount of uncertainty and change is inevitable with any new administration. How does RedPoint think about this transition and how it impacts existing portfolio companies and your investment thesis for the future?
Feedback?
Email:show at thecloudcast dot net
Twitter:@thecloudcastnet or @serverlesscast
YouTube:Cloudcast Channel

Jan 24, 2017 • 24min
The ServerlessCast #1 - Project Fission
Brian talks with Madhura Maskasky (@MadhuraMaskasky; Founder/VP of Product @platform9sys) about managing distributed cloud platforms, the evolution from OpenStack to Kubernetes in the market, the demand for Serverless capabilities, Project Fission and the use-cases for Serverless. Show Links:Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videosProject Fission - Serverless Functions for KubernetesPlatform9 HomepageShow Notes:Topic 1 - Platform9 has evolved from a hosted OpenStack platform to hosted Kubernetes and Serverless. What trends are you seeing in the market to bring these new offerings to market?Topic 2 - Both containers and new, cloud-native/microservices applications are getting a lot of attention. Do you find customers tying those two trends together, or is adoption somewhat independent?Topic 3 - Let's talk about the serverless offering, Fission. Can you give us the basics of the technology and your thinking behind making it open source?Topic 4 - What are you hearing the market about serverless adoption/interest, and is there a specific set of use-cases that you're initially targeting?Topic 5 - Are the Fission and Kubernetes offerings linked together? If so, I'm curious about how much of a role you see containers and Kubernetes playing in the future of serverless implementations. Topic 6 - Since Fission is open source, do you primarily see if being run on your platform (or a public cloud platform), or do you see a place for serverless application on-premises for customers?Feedback?Email:show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter:@thecloudcastnet or @serverlesscast YouTube:Cloudcast Channel

Jan 13, 2017 • 38min
The Cloudcast #286 - Balancing Monolithic Apps and Microservices
Brian talks with Burr Sutter (@burrsutter, Director of Developer Experience @RedHatNews) about the Java application community, how companies are managing their existing applications, how they can ship updates faster and with better quality, and the evolution of microservices in the Java world.
Show Links:
[FUNDRAISING] Krispy Kreme Challenge 2017
Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videos
Red Hat Developers Blog
DevNexus (Java) Conference
Burr's YouTube Channel - Technology Demos
“The Fast Moving Monolith”
Microservices - How to Explain them to Your CEO"
Show Notes:
Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background (developer, technologies) and some of the things you’re focused on these days.
Topic 2 - You’re well known in the Java community, and the Java community is going through some changes over the last couple of years. Where is Java in it’s evolution from monolithic applications to microservices?
Topic 3 - One of the talks you often give is around this concept of “breaking up the monolith” (BUM). Give us the basics of what this means.
Topic 4 - For companies that have existing monolithic Java applications, what are some of the basics that are helping them ship faster or creating better quality code? Is this more about evolving middleware technologies or is it more about evolving culture and process?
Topic 5 - Let’s talk about microservices in the Java world. There is the Spring framework and elements of the NetFlix OSS tools. Is that the evolution of Java, or are there additional options for companies?
Topic 6 - It’s January and everyone would like to get in better shape for the new year. What’s your Java application equivalent for people to eat better and exercise more? Or does everyone need to join the CrossFit of Java?
Feedback?
Email:show at thecloudcast dot net
Twitter:@thecloudcastnet
YouTube:Cloudcast Channel

Jan 11, 2017 • 38min
The Cloudcast #285 - Automation, DevOps & Reddit
Aaron and Brian talk with Jason Edelman (@jedelman8, Founder @networktocode), and Matt Oswalt (@mierdin, Software Engineer @stackstorm) about the state of automation in the industry, how people are evolving their skills, if any of this DevOps is real, and what’s it’s like to be Internet Famous for a day.
Show Links:
[FUNDRAISING] Krispy Kreme Challenge 2017
Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videos
Network to Code website
Jason’s Blog
Stackstorm website
Matt’s Blog - Keeping It Classless
Network Programmability & Automation (book - pre order)
Tech Field Day
"2 Types of IT Techies" - Reddit Thread
Show Notes:
Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show Jason and welcome to the show Matt. Tell about what you’re working on these days.
Topic 2 - What are the big trends (around automation) or popular practices that you’re seeing in the market these days?
Topic 3 - Both of you guys are essentially “self taught” software/automation engineers. But there’s a bunch demand for people to learn these skills and tools. How are you seeing people learn how to make automation helpful to their jobs?
Topic 4 - Matt, you’ve been at both mid-sized companies and web-scale companies and open source companies. Is there anything applicable between those two types of worlds that people can take for their jobs?
Topic 5 - You’re both focused on networking. How much of automation needs to be on software elements (e.g. SDN, etc.) and how much has evolved from existing systems?
Topic 6 - OK, let’s talk about this Reddit thing. First off, tell people what Tech Field Day is, and then give us the timeline about learning about this Reddit thread.
Feedback?
Email:show at thecloudcast dot net
Twitter:@thecloudcastnet
YouTube:Cloudcast Channel

Dec 28, 2016 • 1h 8min
The Cloudcast #284 - 2016 Review & 2017 Predictions
Aaron and Brian review the state of The Cloudcast, review the biggest stories in 2016, and make predictions about 2017.
Show Links:
Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videos
2016 Predictions
2015 Predictions
2014 Predictions
Show Notes:
Housekeeping:
Listens up 70% YoY; 50 Shows in 2016
2017 will be the 7th year of the show.
Thank you to 2016 Sponsors: Intel Cloud For All, Service Now
[DONATIONS] Krispy Kreme Challenge 2017
Most Popular Shows: Serverless, DevOps, Containers, Microservices) - all time shows all in 2016
VC Funding + M&A activities: now over $7.6B ($2.65B VC, $4.98B M&A, 25 acquisitions) - last year closed just north of $5B.
The Cloudcast listed on several “watch lists” for Blogs/Podcasts
ServerlessCast (@serverlesscast) shows (red logo) in your pod-catcher
Weekly | Bi-Weekly “what to watch” shows ~ 10mins - (blue logo) in your pod-catcher
“The Technical MBA” project
Looking Back at 2016:
Tech Acquisitions + M&A + IPO:
Oracle bought NetSuite (SaaS consolidation)
Dell finalized acquisition of EMC/VMware/Pivotal (Hardware consolidation)
Nutanix IPO (down about 23%)
Software-Eating the World M&A:
Unilever acquires Dollar Shave Club (personality, online only)
Walmart acquires Jet (like Amazon.com)
GE Digital acquires ServiceMax (field services via cloud)
Capital One gives away Echo at AWS re:Invent
Prediction Topic 1 - Technology
Enterprises and the Public Cloud - how does this evolve?
Containers (ecosystem)
Serverless
AI, Machine Learning, Data Gravity
SDN? Remember that?
(Hyper) Converged Infrastructure
Prediction Topic 2 - The Economy
VC funding has been down. Do we see fire-sale acquisitions?
Have VC moved out of the segment that we discuss on The Cloudcast?
Will more legacy vendors go private-equity (eg. Cisco, Juniper, NetApp, etc.)?
Most have thrown in the towel on visions of public cloud
If the economy goes bad, does that help SaaS or IaaS more (capex vs. open)?
Prediction Topic 3 - Politics
Will Trump pick a fight with Jeff Bezos?
Will regulation impact things like autonomous driverless vehicles?
Will there be any efforts to encourage work outside the major tech areas?
Show Feedback?
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Twitter: @thecloudcastnet
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Dec 27, 2016 • 50min
The Cloudcast #283 - The Public Cloud
Aaron and Brian talk about the state of the public cloud, where each of the big 3 fit in the global IT picture, the big trends happening (mostly) in public cloud and what people should be tracking as we move into 2017.
Show Links:
Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videos
Predicting the End of the Cloud Era
The Cloud Native Landscape (Project) (with CNCF)
GitHub Revenues
Show Notes:
Topic 1 - At the end of 2016, what is the general state of the Public Cloud, in all areas? (SaaS application, pricing?, Apple?, Facebook?
Topic 2 - Where does AWS sit in the global IT landscape?
Topic 3 - Where does Azure sit in the global IT landscape?
Topic 4 - Where does GCP sit in the global IT landscape?
Topic 4a - Does any other cloud matter except those Big 3? (e.g. Baidu, Alibaba, etc.)
Topic 5 - What trends, technology, problems, are emerging and should on people’s radar in 2017? (Open Source, SaaS, Serverless, IoT, Machine Learning, AI, Bots, GitHub
Topic 6 - What did we lose in 2016 from a Public Cloud perspective? (VMware, Cisco, HPE Helion, Oracle? ,Security, etc.)?
Feedback?
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Twitter:@thecloudcastnet
YouTube:Cloudcast Channel

Dec 20, 2016 • 26min
The Cloudcast #282 - Managing Multi-Cloud Services
Brian talks with Joe Kinsella (@joekinsella, Founder and CTO of @CloudHealthTech) about his background at startups, the growth of the AWS ecosystem, how the buying patterns for cloud have shifted at customers, and how the rest of the industry compares to AWS.
Show Links:
Get a free eBook from O'Reilly media or use promo code PCBW for a discount - 40% off Print Books and 50% off eBooks and videos
CloudHealth Website
CloudHealth Blog
Joe’s Blog
Joe’s “Cloud” Predictions for 2017
Show Notes:
Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. CloudHealth is winning awards and growing, but for people that don’t know about you, give us some background on yourself and the company?
Topic 2 - The AWS re:Invent show was a couple weeks ago. What’s the vibe of that marketplace? Compare it to the vibe you’re seeing from other cloud marketplaces?
Topic 3 - CloudHealth does a lot of interesting things in term of managing cloud resources - performance, cost management, multi-cloud. What are some of the biggest cloud-usage drivers you’re seeing today - who is the buyer, what are the types of applications, etc.?
Topic 4 - We’re many years into “cloud”, but it’s still not a completely mainstream thing for many companies. What lessons are people still learning and are those lessons now starting to get embedded into software/services?
Topic 5 - How has spending on the cloud evolved over the last couple of years?
Topic 6 - How do companies view IT vs. Shadow IT these days? Is it still a problem, or is Shadow IT being embraced more by the business because things are getting done faster?
Feedback?
Email:show at thecloudcast dot net
Twitter:@thecloudcastnet
YouTube:Cloudcast Channel