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The Cloudcast (@cloudcastpod) is the industry's #1 Cloud Computing podcast, and the place where Cloud meets AI. Co-hosts Aaron Delp (@aarondelp) & Brian Gracely (@bgracely) speak with technology and business leaders that are shaping the future of business. Topics will include Cloud Computing | AI | AGI | ChatGPT | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Platform Engineering | DevOps | Big Data | ML | Security | Kubernetes | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS .
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Nov 21, 2017 • 26min
The Cloudcast #322 - Build and Deploy Cloud-Native Apps
Aaron talks with Marc Holmes (@marcholmes, VP Marketing @Chef) about the exploding usage of containers, how application management is changing, how Chef is rethinking the tools they provide to SysAdmins, Ops and Developers, and how Chef Habitat is evolving in Kubernetes and Cloud Foundry environments.Show Links:Chef HabitatIntroducing Habitat Builder[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’ve been at Chef for a couple years now, and previously at Docker (and several other emerging tech companies). Can you give us some perspective on where you see the market today in this time of rapid transitions?Topic 2 - We both come from a technical background and found ourselves customer facing and eventually on the business and marketing side. How has that transition been and what motivated you to make the change?Topic 3 - About a year ago, Chef introduced Habitat, which was a fairly large “re-think” from the previous Chef platforms, which was more focused on SysAdmin / Ops teams. Give you give the audience an overview on Habitat, for anyone that’s not familiar with the basic concepts?Topic 4 - Sometimes people will say that the existing Config Management tools are no longer needed now that we have containers, since they describe everything within their tools / files. How might you respond to those types of arguments? Topic 5 - A few weeks ago Chef introduced Habitat Builder. How does this differ from Habitat?Topic 6 - We see that Habitat is now supporting integration with platforms like Cloud Foundry and Kubernetes. How are you seeing the uptake of those platforms in the market, or what’s driving their adoption?Topic 7 - As you’re engaging with more companies that are building Cloud Native applications, what are some of the things they do that make them successful with these new apps, new operational models, new types of IT cultures? Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Nov 16, 2017 • 35min
The Cloudcast #321 - This Week in ML and AI
Aaron & Brian talk with Sam Charrington (@samcharrington, Host of This Week in ML & AI Podcast) about the differences between AI and ML, how to manage data gravity, the maturity of the technology, press coverage, and the societal impacts of AI and ML.Show Links:This Week in AI & ML PodcastCloudPulse Strategies[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. We’ve known you for a while as being heavily involved in Cloud since the early days, but you’ve been involved with AI and ML for quite a while now too. Tell our audience about your background and what you’re up to today.Topic 2 - Is there a difference between AI and ML? What are some good examples of each?Topic 3 - Let’s start with the basics. AI and ML always get talked about as a spectrum between basic things we all live with (like Google doing an auto fill on a search) to the scary SkyNet, Terminator stuff. Where are we on the maturity curve of AI and ML?Topic 4 - What are some of the key technology elements that people should be aware of with AI and ML? Do we make a mistake by mentioning them today (e.g. AI and ML), and are they very different?Topic 5 - Can we talk about data and data models/set and data gravity as it relates to AI and ML? Do you bring the data to the engine, or the engine to the data? How do companies deal with this today?Topic 6 - AI and ML also have the ability to have major societal impacts on our work, from jobs to human privacy to better access to healthcare or studying global warming. Can you talk about how this interaction of technology and human interests is being covered in the press & media?Topic 7 - Beyond listening to your show each week, what are some good resources for listeners to go learn about AI and ML? Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Nov 9, 2017 • 31min
The Cloudcast #320 - Docker adds Kubernetes, now what...
Aaron and Brian talk with Nigel Poulton (@nigelpoulton, Author and International Man of Tech Knowledge) about the evolution of the container ecosystem, the maturity of container technology, Docker's announcement of Kubernetes support and what's next, and how IT professionals are learning about containerizing applications.Show Links:Nigel Poulton’s BlogThe Kubernetes BookDocker Fundamentals (Course)Kubernetes vs. Docker Swarm...and the Winner is…?Cloudcast Eps. 269 - Nigel discusses Docker[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Hard to believe it’s been over a year since you were last on talking about Docker. How has the container market changed, from your perspective, over the last year?Topic 2 - You recently wrote “The Kubernetes Book”. Give us the cliff notes version of what readers will learn from the book?Topic 3 - As you were researching this book (and your trainings around the topics), what things did you learn about Kubernetes that you’d like to use as an Admin/Ops or Developer?Topic 4 - Docker recently announced intentions to add Kubernetes support to DockerEE. Given Docker’s history of wanting to control their technology, are you surprised they are adding Kubernetes support?Topic 5 - Do you think their customers will care that Docker has limited contributions to Kubernetes, in terms of supporting it for the Enterprise in the long-run?Topic 6 - Have you had a chance to dig into how Docker is going to implement this dual-scheduler architecture? Do you think that Docker eventually depreciates Swarm?Topic 7 - What advice do you have for people trying to learn about containers and Kubernetes?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Nov 2, 2017 • 22min
The Cloudcast #319 - Evolution of Prometheus Monitoring
Brian and Tyler Britten talk Julius Volz (@juliusvolz, @PrometheusIO co-founder, promcon.io founder) about the evolution of Prometheus monitoring, from v1.0 to v2.0. We discuss the updated features and scalability, as well as best practices, lessons learned in production, and how Prometheus might interact with emerging projects such as Istio, Envoy and Linkerd.Show Links:Prometheus (homepage)PromCon and PromCon VideosPrometheus v1.0 on The Cloudcast(v1.0 launch)Introduction to Prometheus on PodCTL[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome back, it’s been about a year. Are you surprised at how much Prometheus has taken off since you first created it at SoundCloud?Topic 2 - Prometheus 2.0 is now available (or soon shipping). What are the major things that are new in this release?Topic 3 - What are some of the best practices you’ve found in deploying Prometheus in production?Topic 4 - What are the biggest lessons learned, or things you wished you’d have known back then?Topic 5 - Does Prometheus have a role in some of these emerging “service mesh” technologies like linkerd or Istio, that are trying to add more intelligence into application routing patterns?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Oct 27, 2017 • 30min
The Cloudcast #318 - Evolution of Cloud Data Management
Brian talks with Kenneth Hui (@kenhuiny, Technical Marketing Engineer) and Andrew Miller (@andriven, Technical Marketing Manager) at @Rubrik about how Cloud Data Management is changing with the evolution of distributed systems and the use of the public cloud. Show Links:Rubrik WebsiteRubrik BlogWhy Rubrik? (whiteboard)Rubrik raises $180M in VC funding (April 2017)[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Ken, welcome back to the show. Andrew, welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your backgrounds and what attracted you to go work for Rubrik? Topic 2 - So in the last 12-14 months, Rubrik has taken $240M+ ($292M total) in VC funding and is adding 100s of people per quarter. I thought the days of VC investment in non-cloud infrastructure companies was over. What’s going on?Topic 3 - Let’s talk about Rubrik’s core architecture and why it’s so different from what companies have used in the past?Topic 4 - How much are people using the public cloud as a storage destination, and what has to happen differently to get data into the public cloud vs. what has to happen in a local data center?Topic 5 - With Rubrik’s different architecture (software-centric, distributed processing, etc.), what new best-practices are starting to emerge?Topic 6 - From what I can see, Rubrik is mostly focused on VM-centric environments. Any plans to get into container-centric environments?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Oct 20, 2017 • 39min
The Cloudcast #317 - The State of the Serverless Ecosystem
Brian talks with Ryan Brown (@ryan_sb, Sr. Software Engineer @Ansible, Author of ServerlessCode) about the overall state of the Serverless community after the recent ServerlessConf 2017 NYC, the breadth of focus areas for developers and business, the ways to integrate serverless into existing applications, and areas for newbies to the space to get started.Show Links:ServerlessCodeManaging Serverless Framework with AnsibleSlides from Ryan's talkBen Kehoe’s “DiffOps”[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow Notes:Topic 1 - You’ve been heavily involved in Serverless since the very days, working on things like the ServerlessCode site as a side project. How are you seeing the community evolve?The DevOps crowd was thereLots of “is it NoOps or Not?” discussionsNobody is actually NoOps. There’s a common understanding (underlined by people like Charity Majors) that someone in your org is always responsible for stuff working, or else you die. DiffOps is one term that encompasses the “you have responsibility, but one of your responsibilities is to farm out as much as is reasonable to your provider” Any viable open-source elements emerging?Lots of toy-ish “oh you can run FaaS on k8s” around, but when you get serious: Serverless Framework/Zappa/Sparta/Apex OpenWhisk Some VC funding, but nothing massive yetIOPipe raised at least one round Serverless has a spot in the HeavyBit, and some funding Stackery has about 2 million in funding The real “VC’s” in serverless tooling are the cloud mega-providers (Amazon, Microsoft, Google) and the biggest teams I know of are all subteams there How many customers vs. vendors at the event?Basically 2x the first ServerlessConf, up to 450/460 attendees Topic 2 - You gave a talk called “Harmonizing Serverless and Traditional Applications“. Outside of greenfield companies, that seems to be the common questions that companies are asking. What topics did you cover in your talk?

Oct 12, 2017 • 26min
The Cloudcast #316 - Automating to Improve Cloud Spending
Brian talks with Jay Chapel (@parkmycloudjay, Co-Founder/CEO of ParkMyCloud) about the complexity of cloud pricing models, how IT and DevOps teams view spending differently, how to integrate monitoring and automation, and who is critical to making buying decisions in the cloud. Show Links:ParkMyCloud WebsiteParkMyCloud BlogPer Second Billing for AWS EC2 and EBSPer Second Billing for Google Cloud[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[SERVERLESS] ServerlessConf in NYC (Oct. 8-11). 20% Discount on all passes[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background, why you started ParkMyCloud and how you’ve seen the market evolve since you got started (in 2015).Topic 2 - ricing in the public cloud world has gotten both more complicated (e.g. no clouds do it the same way) and simpler (e.g. sustained usage discounts, free tiers, per-second billing, etc.). How do you see the market evolving, and how much of a barrier/burden is pricing “complexity” to public cloud adoption?Topic 3 - You position ParkMyCloud separately for “For DevOps” and “For IT”. How are you seeing those as two distinct use-cases or types of teams?Topic 4 - ParkMyCloud not only monitors cloud costs and recommends areas for savings, but also includes automated tasks to take advantage of those optimizations. Tell us about the automation capabilities and how your customers get comfortable with that level of control in the platform.Topic 5 - What are you seeing as the public cloud buying process these days? Who is involved, what criteria do they consider, and how do various stakeholders (CFO, Project Managers, Developers) continue to get cost visibility?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Oct 5, 2017 • 23min
The Cloudcast #315 - How Newbies are Learning Today
Brian talks with Tanya Selvog (@AWSNewbie, Jr. Web-Developer, Full-Stack Developer in training) about how new(er) engineers are learning skills, engaging with learning communities, and adapting to a changing job market for software developers.Show Links:100 Days of Learning AWSMy First Alexa SkillAWS Newbies Meetup - Austin, TXCode NewbieWomen Who CodeGeneral Assembly’s Web Developer Immersive Course[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[SERVERLESS] ServerlessConf in NYC (Oct. 8-11). 20% Discount on all passes[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. I found your name on Twitter because you have an interesting handle (@AWSNewbie) and you were telling a story about learning new technologies. Tell us a little bit about your background and how you’re evolving in the technology world.Topic 2 - You decided to enroll in this immersive course (12-weeks). Tell us about that environment. What did you learn? What works, what doesn’t work, what’s the learning process, etc.?Topic 3 - You talked about attending a Women in Code event in Austin and getting a chance to use some of the A Cloud Guru trainings. How does the AWS training compare to the web development training? Topic 4 - You’ve mentioned that you’re engaged with the CodeNewbie community. Tell us about that group - how do people get engaged, what’s shared or discussed, how do people help each other?Topic 5 - How are you able to apply these new learnings to projects or work activities? How do you market yourself to potential employers? Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Sep 28, 2017 • 28min
The Cloudcast #314 - Managing the Container Herd
Aaron talks with Shannon Williams (@smw355, Co-Founder Rancher Labs) about the state of the container ecosystem, the evolution of Rancher, and the explosive growth of Kubernetes.Show Links:Rancher Labs WebsiteComparing Docker Swarm and Kubernetes whitepaper[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[SERVERLESS] ServerlessConf in NYC (Oct. 8-11). 20% Discount on all passes[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Shannon, How many times has it been now? The last time we spoke to Rancher was at DockerCon EU, 2015 and we spoke to Darren Shepherd. A lot has changed as we’ll get into but first, introduce yourself and how are you doing these days?Topic 2 - Before we dig into details, what is your take on the state of the container industry currently? What are some themes you’ve seen over the last two years?Topic 3 - For those that don’t know, explain both Rancher and RancherOS. What problem are you trying to solve with each?Topic 4 - Rancher as I understand it specializes in application provisioning to both Kubernetes and Docker Swarm either on-prem on to public clouds, correct? Where does Rancher leave off and Kubernetes or Swarm takes over? How is long term management of the application handled? Folks should check out the whitepaper on comparing orchestrators, I took a look last night and it is well done and “down in the weeds”Topic 5 - Let’s talk about Rancher 2.0. There are some really great things in there, tell the folks about what’s just released.Topic 6 - What are the common use cases you are seeing with your early customers? Are customers using Rancher for existing projects (Hadoop, ELK Stack) using the catalog or are they integrating directly in their CI/CD pipelines? Both?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Sep 22, 2017 • 30min
The Cloudcast #313 - Making Sense of New Technologies
Brian talks with Alex Williams (@alexwilliams, Founder of The New Stack) about the evolution of Cloud-Native technologies, the challenges of trying to keep up with rapid change, making sense of data that explains the industry, and how to stay connected to the communities of people driving the technology changes.Show Links:The New Stack (homepage)Docker & Kubernetes eBooksThe New Stack PodcastsThe New Stack Videos[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[SERVERLESS] ServerlessConf in NYC (Oct. 8-11). 20% Discount on all passes[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] DISCOUNT: Serverless for Beginners (only $15 instead of $29)[A CLOUD GURU] FREE: Alexa Development for Absolute Beginners[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. It’s now been 3.5 years for The New Stack. Tell us about the various ways that you’re covering all these new technologies and trends and personalities.Topic 2 - If you had to explain the 2014-2017 evolution to somebody new to all of this today, how would you summarize all the options (companies, technologies, foundations, etc.) to them?Topic 3 - How should someone try and make sense of data that is around all these projects? (GitHub stars, survey data, VC funding, the lack of vendor financial reporting, etc.)?Topic 4 - Do you feel like anything since 2014 has become “mainstream” yet (e.g. containers, DevOps, data analytics), or does mainstream mean something very different in today’s world of cloud services?Topic 5 - This marketplace moves very quickly. People look to The News Stack to make sense of it for them. How do you and your team keep up and organize your thinking around all of this?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast