

The Cloudcast
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The Cloudcast (@cloudcastpod) is the industry's #1 Cloud Computing podcast, and the place where Cloud meets AI. Co-hosts Aaron Delp (@aarondelp) & Brian Gracely (@bgracely) speak with technology and business leaders that are shaping the future of business. Topics will include Cloud Computing | AI | AGI | ChatGPT | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Platform Engineering | DevOps | Big Data | ML | Security | Kubernetes | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS .
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Mar 14, 2021 • 22min
The Complexities of Edge Computing
It’s smaller computers, doing limited tasks. So why is Edge Computing so complicated, and why are there so many definitions?SHOW: 497SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Qumulo Homepage: Manage File Data at Scale, AnywhereTest Drive Qumulo: Try Qumulo for free, no downloads or setup requiredCBT Nuggets: Expert IT Training for individuals and teamsSign up for a CBT Nuggets Free Learner accountCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW NOTES:Edge ComputingInternet of Things (IoT)Industrial IoTDigital TwinsDigital Twins and IoTLF Edge, State of Edge 2021 Report ($800B by 2028)THE COMPLEXITIES OF EDGE COMPUTINGNo single definition of edge, because of so many use-casesBranch officeNear-Edge Far-EdgeDisconnectedHardware can dictate quite a bit about edge characteristicsCustom-OS or COTS OSGeneral purpose HW or Specialized HW (GPU, NVMe, DPUs)#of computing devices; volume of local storageNetworking can dictate quite a bit about edge characteristicsAre the devices always connected to the Internet?How are disconnected environments handled?How much bandwidth is available? Is it symmetric or asymmetric? What are the traffic patterns of the applications? Local vs. Backhaul. Security can dictate quite a bit about edge characteristicsHow does Security happen on Day 0?What are the security vs. usability tradeoffs? (direct user interaction) How is security maintained? (CVE, Local Security services, etc.)Maintenance can dictate quite a bit about edge characteristicsHow much does it cost to deploy new edges?How often are the edges expected to be upgraded? How will maintenance happen? (Local tech, remote download, etc.)How sophisticated is the Day 2 Ops? (Telemetry, Environmentals, Benchmarks, etc.) FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet

Mar 10, 2021 • 42min
The Value of Value-Stream Mapping
Steve Pereira (@SteveElsewhere, Value-Stream Whisperer @ Visible) talks about measuring, understanding business and technology process through Value-Stream Mapping. SHOW: 496SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:See how O’Reilly online learning can help your tech teams. Request a free demo now.Get started with the JumpCloud Directory Platform today Visit the JumpCloud Homepage. Email press@jumpcloud.com for a FREE JumpCloud T-Shirt.Datadog Security Monitoring Homepage: Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt.CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW NOTES:Visible (homepage) - Value Stream ConsultingSteve Pereira’s homepageSteve’s 4x4 Method of DevOps TractionValue Stream Link - Value Stream resourcesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background and how you eventually became focused on helping companies improve their Value-Streams.Topic 2 - Let’s start by talking about Value-Streams and Mapping. What are they, why do we need them, what do they provide? Topic 3 - Walk us through a Value-Stream-Mapping exercise with a company. What is their pre-homework? What questions do you ask? How do you keep it focused on their language? Topic 4 - Do you need to fix everything at once, or can it be done in phases? How much of the improvement has to do with the application, and how much is adjusting existing processes? Topic 5 - Lots of people like to compare this to Lean Manufacturing (Toyota Production System, Six Sigma, etc.). Optimize the system, design for efficient flows, empower the workers to make changes and give feedback, etc. But does this break with software, where there isn’t really an end to a production line? Topic 6 - Once people understand it, what tends to work well and what tends to lead to on-going failures? FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet

Mar 7, 2021 • 30min
Lessons Learned from Cloud Foundry
Cloud Foundry was going to create an open source alternative to Heroku, as well as replace how Enterprise companies built software. But change is never easy. Looking back, what can we learn from the lessons of Cloud Foundry?SHOW: 495SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Get started with the JumpCloud Directory Platform today Interested in a free JumpCloud T-Shirt? Email press@jumpcloud.com.See how O’Reilly online learning can help your tech teams. Request a free demo now.CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW NOTES:Cloud Foundry Launch (Part I) - 2011Cloud Foundry Launch (Part II)Cloud Foundry history (Wikipedia)Cloud Foundry Foundation (launched in January 2015)Understanding the Cloud Foundry Foundation (Sam Ramji, Eps.186)Structured vs. Unstructured Platforms (Wikibon, Gracely, 2015)Architectural Considerations for OSS PaaS and Container Platforms (2016)HOW DID CLOUD FOUNDRY EVOLVE?An open source, programmable cloud application platform (PaaS). Heroku (2007), Google AppEngine (2008) existed before Cloud Foundry (April 2011). OpenShift launched in May 2011. Apcera was launched in 2012 by Derek Collison Open Source, Multi-cloudMultiple languages, frameworksAutomation for the infrastructure (BOSH)Integrated Logging, Tracing, Routing, GUIData Services live off the platform, via Service BrokerVery heavy platform footprint (up to 50 VMs)Diego container scheduler Warden container runtime Many large vendors got involved once it became a foundation. IBM, SAP, Intel, Cisco, EMC/VMwareMany end-user customers joined (great for recruiting)None of the Cloud providers, other than an infrastructure stem-cellBy 2016-17, most large Cloud Foundry vendors were shifting their focus to KubernetesLESSONS LEARNED FOR THE FUTURESingle-vendor led communities are difficult, especially if a foundation is created.Technology transitions are hard, oftentimes impossible. Cloud Foundry chose to downplay Docker and Kubernetes as “just for infrastructure”, even within their own community. Make it simple to get environments/clusters (Managed Kubernetes services, Cluster API, laptop-level environments (minikube). Needs to be a managed cloud service on good clouds. Platform-aware, Infrastructure automation is important (e.g. like BOSH, except that it works)Industry is mixed on if stateful / data services should run on-platform or off-platform. Having to also manage the off-platform is difficult. FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet

Mar 3, 2021 • 37min
Solving Developers Security Challenges
Shira Shamban (@ShambanIT, CEO @SolvoCloud) talks about easily bringing security to CI/CD pipelines and software development, the rise of DevSecOps and "Shifting Left.SHOW: 494SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:CBT Nuggets: Expert IT Training for individuals and teamsSign up for a CBT Nuggets Free Learner accountQumulo Homepage: Manage File Data at Scale, AnywhereTest Drive Qumulo: Try Qumulo for free, no downloads or setup requiredDatadog Security Monitoring Homepage: Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt.CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW NOTES:Solvo HomepageSolvo Intro VideoSheCodesOWASPTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background, you have a very interesting journey starting in cybersecurity for the Isreal Defense Force all the way to CEO of a newly funded startup. Topic 2 - The rise of CI/CD created some great benefits to software development, it also created some security challenges. Let’s start there, why do developers seem to have so many challenges with security, especially in production?Topic 3 - Increasingly we hear about the concept of DevSecOps, you introduced the term “Shifting Left”. What does that mean and how does this relate to the larger concept of DevSecOps?Topic 4 - When a developer pushes code, where is the friction from a security perspective? How does Solvo solve this problem as code is pushed and how do you integrate with the cloud providers to make sure a least-privilege model is used? You recently released a security tool for health checks of your cloud accounts? (link in the show notes)Topic 5 - We recently raised your first round of funding completely remotely. Tell us about the experience and challenges you faced. Topic 6 - You are passionate about empowering women and under-represented communities in our industry. Tell us about your ongoing partnerships with SheCodes, Cyber Ladies and other mentoring programs you are involved with.FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet

Feb 28, 2021 • 19min
How the Cloud is Changing OSS Licensing
Brian looks at the recent changes in open source licensing, as it relates to managed cloud offerings, and how the perception of end-users towards free software vs. cloud services is changing. #SundayPerspectivesSHOW: 493SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Onix - The Leading Cloud Solutions ProviderOnix - Cloud data strategy workshop offer (FREE, $2000 value)CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW NOTESServer Side Public License (SSPL)What does Open Source mean in the Era of Cloud APIs? (Redmonk)Cockroach and the Source Available Future (Redmonk)MongoDB Cloud, MongoDB vs. AWS, MongoDB’s Playbook (Stratechery)Doubling Down on Open (Elastic)Evolution of Commercial OSS (The Cloudcast, Eps.492)THINGS WE KNOWOpen Source has become a mainstream source for innovation - with most of the Internet being built on OSS technologies (in some way or form)Open Source is more widely used in the Enterprise (than in the past), beyond just LinuxOpen Source is often the de facto choice for much of the public cloud (OS, VMs, DBs, etc.)The need for a “free” experience is expected for anything new in software or cloud, whether that’s for any/all usage, or a fixed period of time. “Open core”, or other variations on free OSS + non OSS (non-free) features has been a concept for quite a while. Community driven development does bring a broad set of perspectives, and it distributes the workload across engineers, companies, etc.Plenty of successful projects have been both Open Source and primarily driven by a single company (especially in the data-centric projects)THINGS THAT WILL EVOLVEWhere does the value of software come from? Does it come from the features, from the distribution, from the creator(s), or from how it is run?Do customers value ‘free”, or “stability” or “customizability” (features) or “operationalization”? How much of an advantage or disadvantage (or neutral) is the OSS companies offering cloud services across clouds? UNKNOWNS AND UNCERTAINTIESHow will the VC community view the changes in competitive landscape and licensing? How does it impact their future funding models?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet

Feb 24, 2021 • 47min
Evolution of Commercial OSS
Joseph “JJ” Jacks (@asynchio, Founder/General Partner OSS Capital) talks about how Commercial OSS has evolved, coopetition with cloud providers, and what's next for Commercial OSS business models and communities. SHOW: 492SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:CloudZero - Cloud Cost Intelligence for Engineering TeamsBMC Wants to Know if your business is on its A-GameBMC Autonomous Digital EnterpriseDatadog Security Monitoring Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt.CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW NOTES:OSS Capital Partners and AdvisorsCommercial Open-Source Software Company Index (COSSI)OSS Capital to launch an ETF (with NASDAQ) of OSS Companies in Summer 2021Open Consensus - Data Driven Perspectives on Open Source SoftwareCOSS Community / Open Core Summit The Kubernetes State of the Community (Eps.272)Exploring the Business Side of Open Source Software (Eps.358)Server Side Public LicenseTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. For those that don’t already know you, tell us a little bit about your background, and some of the things you’re focused on today. Topic 2 - You’ve been tracking the commercialization of open-source projects for quite a while now. What big trends have you seen evolve over the last two decades (from Red Hat to MongoDB) Topic 3 - Even in the face of new OSS-centric offerings from the cloud providers, we still continue to see companies getting funded. What is the sentiment in the VC-communities about what the new competitive landscape looks like? Are there new rules in the game? Topic 4 - We’ve recently seen MongoDB and Elastic changing their licensing model to SSPL. The stock of both companies continues to rise. Is what they are doing a short-term “fix” to a competitive threat, or a critical mistake? Does licensing need to evolve as a company matures? Topic 5 - Are there fundamental shifts in how OSS companies are created and eventually operationalized happening now? Topic 6 - Where do you see commercial OSS trending over the next 5 years, and what big changes need to happen to make those realities happen?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet

Feb 21, 2021 • 23min
Public Cloud Look Ahead for the 2020s
Looking forward at the biggest public clouds, what are the things we are sure of, the trends we expect to evolve, and the uncertainties that will shape the next 5+ years in cloud computing?SHOW: 491SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:CloudZero - Cloud Cost Intelligence for Engineering TeamsCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW NOTES:THINGS WE KNOW - OVERALL GROWTH OF THE INDUSTRYMore adoption of SaaS applications (which run on Big 3)More migrations of apps from data center to cloudHuge CAPEX spending (low-interest rates) for Cloud + Other Businesses (Healthcare, Driving, Gaming, AR/VR, FinSvcs, etc.)More rapid adoption of ARM in the cloud than data centers (40% lower costs)Edge still has alot of evolution to go through (footprint, mgmt/updates, security, etc.)TRENDS THAT WILL EVOLVEBeginning to see a wave of Telco’s partnering with Big 3 (edge computing)2nd/3rd-generation of being built as cloud-native firstVendors partnering with Big 3 to be “native-services”The data-centric OSS projects in the cloudUNKNOWNS AND UNCERTAINTIESAcquisitionsChanges in Leadership Pricing WarsAre there emerging players (Alibaba, Apple, etc.)?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet

Feb 17, 2021 • 34min
Asynchronous Development for Remote Teams
Dan Lines, (@linknfg182, COO @LinearB_Inc) talks about asynchronous development for remote teams, managing business-level discussions, bringing greater transparency and accountability to projects, and identifying early signs of developer burnout. SHOW: 490SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:BMC Wants to Know if your business is on its A-GameBMC Autonomous Digital EnterpriseDatadog Security Monitoring Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt.Onix - The Leading Cloud Solutions ProviderOnix - Cloud data strategy workshop offer (FREE, $2000 value)CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW NOTES:LinearB HomepageAsynchronous Development for Remote TeamsAsynchronous Development ManifestoDev Interrupted podcastTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background, and what brought you to be so focused on developer productivity and team agility? Topic 2 - We want to talk about remote teams today, but before we get started, let’s talk about how much this past year has changed the day-to-day life of application development teams.Topic 3 - You’ve spoken about Asynchronous Development (for Remote Teams) and how the pandemic sort of created the environment that has been evolving for years. Tell us about the concept and some of the things companies can do to embrace it? Topic 4 - LinearB is a tool/platform that gives teams visibility into what’s happening with projects (status/velocity), backlogs, bottlenecks, etc. How do you think about transparency and accountability for teams, since software projects can get fairly complex? Topic 5 - How much does it help in conversations with business leaders, who might not have as much understanding of how development teams work, to have the data trends right in front of them?Topic 6 - You make a point that you can see “burnout” happening within teams or around individuals. What are some tips to reduce that, or address it in ways that it can lead to better long-term conditions within teams?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet

Feb 14, 2021 • 19min
Lessons Learned from OpenStack
Exploring the history and challenges of OpenStack, including its evolution from a partnership between NASA and Rackspace to the adoption of the 'Big Tent' model. Analyzing the mistake of accepting VMware and the focus shifting to Telco at the OpenStack Summit in 2016. Discussing the struggle of defining OpenStack's scope and upgrading the platform amidst rapid growth and project fragmentation.

Feb 10, 2021 • 26min
The New Economics of Cloud Infrastructure
Kevin Deierling, SVP Marketing @NVIDIA, discusses the evolution of cloud and datacenter infrastructure, the new economics of computing, and how DPUs are redefining data inspection and offloading.


