The Will to Change: Where Leadership Meets the Courage to Evolve

Jennifer Brown
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Jul 25, 2025 • 1h 15min

E374: The Evolution of an Inclusive Leader: Jennifer joins the Liberation Chronicles Podcast

In this special episode, originally recorded for The Liberation Chronicles, Jennifer Brown is featured in a powerful conversation about what it truly means to lead inclusively. Drawing from her signature framework, the Inclusive Leader Continuum, Jennifer discusses the four stages of inclusive leadership and emphasizes the importance of building learning-centered cultures rooted in humility, accountability, and grace. She explores how leaders can move from awareness to advocacy without shame, and why inclusive leadership is essential, not just as a DEI strategy, but as a transformative practice for navigating change, fostering trust, and shaping the future of work.
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Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 8min

E373: Uncertainty Is Not the Enemy: Reclaiming Possibility in a Volatile World with Author Maggie Jackson

In this episode of The Will to Change, Jennifer Brown sits down with author and thought leader Maggie Jackson to explore why uncertainty, so often seen as something to fear, might actually be our greatest asset. Together they unpack how leaning into the unknown can spark resilience, adaptability, and even joy, both in our personal lives and in the way we lead. From surfing literal waves to navigating the unpredictability of today’s workplaces, Maggie reveals why wisdom in motion is essential for thriving amid rapid change. Tune in to discover how reframing uncertainty not as a threat but as a challenge and opportunity can transform how we work, connect, and grow.
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Jul 11, 2025 • 52min

E372: Rewriting the Story: Correcting the Narrative on Equity with Celeste Warren

In this episode, you’ll hear from Celeste Warren as she unpacks how equity has evolved, why it’s so often misunderstood, and what it really takes to create a more inclusive, balanced future. Drawing on decades of experience and insights from her new book, Celeste shares how to move beyond fear and resistance to build true shared purpose. You’ll learn why equity is essential for everyone, how to communicate its value in ways that resonate, and what it looks like to dismantle barriers so we can all see the mountains ahead together.
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Jul 3, 2025 • 52min

E371: Seven Trust Languages That Transform Teams: With Author Minda Harts

In this episode, Jennifer welcomes workplace consultant, bestselling author, and advocate Minda Harts to explore why trust is the true currency of equity and belonging. Drawing on insights from her new book, Minda introduces the “Seven Trust Languages,” a groundbreaking framework that helps leaders and teams build authentic, sustainable trust at work. Together they unpack how trust gaps often come down to unmet expectations, why transparency isn’t about revealing everything but about honest communication, and how trust especially impacts underrepresented employees navigating systemic bias. This conversation offers a timely, practical blueprint for making workplaces more human, resilient, and inclusive. 
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Jun 26, 2025 • 50min

E370: Community is What Remains: DEI, Disruption, and the Urgency of Connection

In this special episode, originally recorded live for Remote Daily, Jennifer reflects on the growing backlash against the DEI industry and what it means to lead through uncertainty as long-standing systems begin to unravel. She shares how an intentional pause has become a powerful space for reflection and reinvention, and explores why community, rather than corporate structures, may be the most durable path forward. This episode offers a vulnerable and visionary look at how to stay grounded, creative, and connected in times of disruption.  
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Jun 20, 2025 • 25min

E369: The Long Arc of Belonging: A Pride Reflection

In this Pride Month reflection, Jennifer takes listeners on a journey through 25 years of LGBTQ+ workplace advocacy, beginning with her early days organizing panels in New York and culminating in the founding of Jennifer Brown Consulting. She explores the evolution of corporate inclusion efforts, the power of community, and the tension between authenticity, accountability, and assimilation in today’s workplace. Speaking candidly about the emotional complexity of this moment, Jennifer invites listeners to reconnect with their purpose, honor their advocacy journeys, and remember the wisdom they carry, even when the world feels out of step.
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Jun 13, 2025 • 1h 3min

E368: Words, Work, and What Comes Next: Charting the Future of Inclusion with Elfi Martinez

Elfi Martinez, Vice President of Inclusive Organizations at Changeforce.ai, returns to the program for a conversation with Jennifer about the current crossroads facing the DEI field.  Jennifer and Elfi's discussion ranges from a discussion about cultural backlash and the erosion of shared language to the urgent need for clear standards and behavior-based accountability. This conversation examines how we got here, what we’ve learned, and what it will take to evolve the work in ways that are sustainable, inclusive, and resilient in the face of resistance.    
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Jun 6, 2025 • 56min

E367: Rest, Resist, Rewire: The Neuroscience of Navigating Change with Dr. Britt Andreatta

In this episode we are joined by neuroscientist, leadership expert, and author, Dr. Britt Andreatta, to unpack the brain science behind how humans respond to change. We explore why resistance is hardwired into our biology, how burnout and change fatigue are affecting today’s workforce, and what leaders can do to foster resilience, inclusion, and transformation even in uncertain times. Whether you’re leading a team, guiding culture change, or navigating your own evolution, this conversation offers practical insights and a hopeful path forward.
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May 29, 2025 • 49min

E366: Holding the Mic and the Moment: The Courage to Be Heard with Eduardo Placer

In this episode, originally recorded as a community call, Jennifer is joined by Eduardo Placer of Fearless Communicators and a circle of visionary voices. Together, they explore what it means to show up as a thought leader in today’s shifting landscape, offering insights on storytelling, presence, vulnerability, and reclaiming space in a world that often pushes marginalized voices to the sidelines. You’ll hear reflections on building authentic connection with audiences, navigating the pressure to conform, and why now is the time to speak your truth with clarity and courage. Whether you’re a speaker, changemaker, or purpose-driven professional, this conversation will leave you inspired to step into your light.
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May 22, 2025 • 1h 24min

E365: In Plain Sight: Author Sarah Miller on “Hick” and Eleanor Roosevelt’s Enduring Relationship

In this episode, Jennifer is joined by author Sarah Miller as they explore the deeply intimate and complex relationship between journalist Lorena “Hick” Hickok and First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt. Drawing from Sarah’s extensive research and thousands of personal letters, they discuss how love, identity, and intimacy were expressed—and often obscured—before the language of modern queer identity existed. Together, they reflect on how this relationship redefines historical narratives, challenges binary thinking, and uplifts queer voices too often overlooked. This episode offers a powerful reminder to younger generations that they have always existed, and that queer love, in all its forms, has always found a way.

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