
The Hatchards Podcast
The Hatchards Podcast is a conversation show about books brought to you by England’s oldest bookshop. Featuring interviews with some of our favourite authors, bookish waffle, and the occasional glass of wine. Hosted by Ryan Edgington and Matt Hennessey.
Latest episodes

May 24, 2022 • 38min
Edward Chisholm on Waiting in Paris
Dear listener, we strongly recommend that you pour yourself a tall glass of Bordeaux before you listen to the latest episode of The Hatchards Podcast, lest you want to feel like the only sober person in the room. As 'Waiter in Paris' memoirist Edward Chisholm is a trained expert in what he describes as the holy trinity of French cuisine - bread, cheese, and wine - Matt and Ryan considered it the perfect opportunity (nay, excuse) to try and impress their guest with an elaborate display of expensive wines and pungent cheeses. Unsurprisingly, their lively conversation is often punctuated with the popping of corks, pouring of glasses, and the breaking of bread. Mercifully, Matt left his accordion at home. 'A Waiter in Paris,' our Hatchards Book of the Month, is an insightful journey into the underbelly of the City of Light, revealing what it really takes to work as a waiter in Paris, navigating everything from raging chefs and pompous management to disdainful customers and cut-throat colleagues, all in the name of putting food on your table.Mr. Chisholm spoke to us about his experiences in Paris as a young British ex-pat, where his vain hopes of finding gainful employment in the arts or humanities rapidly emptied his bank account. As a consequence, he sought a role as a waiter in an archetypal French Bistrot where any romantic notions he may have held about this profession were quickly shattered within minutes of beginning his first shift. If you think you've got party stories, wait until you hear from Edward Chisholm.

May 10, 2022 • 46min
Emma Smith on Burning Books
In this episode, 'This is Shakespeare' author Emma Smith joins us to discuss her latest book, 'Portable Magic,' an iconoclastic new story of the book in human hands, exploring when, why, and how it acquired its particular hold over us. Gathering together a millennium's worth of pivotal encounters with volumes big and small, Smith reveals that, as much as their contents, it is books' physical form - their 'bookhood' - that lends them their distinctive and sometimes dangerous magic. Emma spoke to us about why she feels it is important not to overly romanticise the book form, as historically books have been at the center of powerful authoritarian movements such as Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' or Mao's 'Red Book.' While that description may lead you to think that our conversation has a contrarian streak, in reality, you have never heard three people speak more enthusiastically, or indeed more exhaustively, about books. Trust us when we say we have left no page unturned.This is truly The Hatchards Podcast at its most unabridged. For book lovers, is there anything better?

Apr 19, 2022 • 32min
Ben Hinshaw on Exactly What You Mean
In this episode, we spoke to debut novelist Ben Hinshaw about his new book, "Exactly What You Mean," a series of 11 interconnected short stories revolving around the island of Guernsey. Characters appear and reappear throughout the book, ricocheting through each other's lives in ways that can be either funny or tragic and altogether unexpected. In this way, Hinshaw reminds us of the ways that we are all connected, and the impact we make on those around us, for better or worse. Hinshaw spoke to us about his memories coming-of-age on the island throughout the 80s and 90s, his years spent as a London bookseller, his later years in America, and his unique journey towards becoming a novelist. With echoes of Raymond Carver, Alice Munro, and the ensemble films of Paul Thomas Anderson, Hinshaw's book marks the arrival of a major new literary voice.

Apr 5, 2022 • 37min
Oliver Bullough on Butlers, British Tax Criminals, and Bertie Wooster
What is a butler? In his new book "Butler to the World," Oliver Bullough describes a butler as a person that was educated at all the right schools, cultivated all the right connections, and relies on centuries of learned experience in the service of wealthy individuals.Sound familiar? Through its offshore territories, endless loopholes, and hands-off approach to its financial sector, Bullough powerfully argues that Britain has spent the better part of a century occupying the role of Jeeves, only not to Bertie Wooster, but to global criminal organisations ranging from the drug cartel to the Putin regime. In this vital conversation, Bullough poses what is perhaps the most pertinent question facing the nation since the collapse of the empire: if we were to leave the butlering business once and for all, what would our new role be?To keep things light, we also contemplate all of the good P.G. Wodehouse's Jeeves could have done in the world had he not wasted his talents on being a fixer for half-wits and drunken aristocrats.

Mar 22, 2022 • 36min
Colm Tóibín on Thomas Mann
In this episode, Matt and Ryan were afforded the immense pleasure of speaking to one of the greatest living novelists of our time, Colm Tóibín. Tóibín joined us on the occasion of his latest novel, 'The Magician', being released in paperback. The novel traces the life of 20th-century German writer Thomas Mann, author of 'The Magic Mountain', 'Death in Venice', and 'Buddenbrooks.' Thomas lived a life of profound contradictions and complexity. He was a homosexual man happily married to a woman who bore him six highly eccentric children. He was a German nationalist who became a fierce critic of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime. Above all, Thomas was a person most comfortable in his study, working confidently on his books, away from the fray. Due to the broad sweep of German history during the first half of the 20th-century, this position becomes untenable, and Thomas is forced by circumstance to become a man of action and consequence.As you will hear from the conversation, Tóibín has become something of an expert on Thomas Mann, and speaks about his life in a way that grabs you from the first moment of the conversation. We could not be more thrilled to have spoken to him about this truly remarkable novel, perhaps the finest book Tóibín has written to date.Hosted by Ryan Edgington and Matt Hennessey.

Mar 8, 2022 • 39min
Philip Oltermann on The Stasi Poetry Circle
In this episode, we're taking listeners back to the Cold War, covering everything from '80s pop culture to perestroika. We were joined from Berlin by The Guardian's bureau chief, Philip Oltermann, to discuss his fascinating new book, 'The Stasi Poetry Circle.' This unique Cold War story charts the history of East Germany's brutal secret police through their unlikely monthly poetry club. What sounds like a Monty Python sketch is revealed to be a complex and elaborate scheme likely designed to equip spies with the necessary tools to decode works of East German literature for material that ran counter to the prevailing Marxist-Leninist ideology. We also discuss Oltermann's experiences tracking down these men today to see what has become of their lives since the wall came down. Mr. Gorbachev, turn up this podcast.Hosted by Ryan Edgington and Matt Hennessey.

Feb 22, 2022 • 39min
Max Porter and James Birch on Francis Bacon
There is something of a Francis Bacon season going on here at Hatchards, with 'Bacon in Moscow' chosen as our non-fiction Book of the Month, multiple new releases across various genres covering the artist's work, and a new exhibition entitled 'Man and Beast' across the road at the Royal Academy. In this episode, we invited author Max Porter ('Lanny,' 'Grief is the Thing With Feathers') and the author and art curator James Birch ('Bacon in Moscow') to discuss the life and works of the famed 20th-century figurative artist. Mr. Birch first met Bacon when he was a little boy, and maintained a close relationship with him until the end of his life. In July of 1986, he successfully curated an exhibition of the artist's work in the former USSR, allowing more than 400,000 Soviet citizens to view Bacon's work for the first time. Mr. Porter's devotion to Bacon's work began when he was a teenager, and he spent the better part of the 2020 national lockdown writing an imagined memoir about the last days of the artist's life. The resulting novella, 'The Death of Francis Bacon,' is an extraordinary series of six "written pictures" transmuting Bacon's unsettling imagery into the written word. Both of these authors' fascinating new books can be purchased in signed, exclusive editions in the shop and on our website.Hosted by Ryan Edgington and Matt Hennessey.

Feb 8, 2022 • 31min
Caleb Azumah Nelson on Open Water, Southeast London, and Moonlight
On this episode, we were joined via Zoom by the delightful Caleb Azumah Nelson, author of the acclaimed debut novel "Open Water." In this conversation, Caleb spoke to us about his unique background, his inspirations, his love of music and photography, and his cultural touchstones like Zadie Smith and the 2016 feature film, Moonlight. He also waxes lyrical about the myriad pleasures of deepest Southeast London, perhaps a city unto itself. Additionally, Matt and I do an extended ramble in the introduction about our favourite debut novels from the recent past (and not-so-recent past). However, if you are just here to listen to a brilliant author speak, the conversation with him begins at 7:32.

Jan 25, 2022 • 25min
Roger Katz on the Golden Age of Bookselling
In this episode, we spoke to Roger Katz, the former manager of Hatchards, about selling his library of over 500 signed first editions, as well as working in the book trade throughout the 1990s, an era that he dubs the "Golden Age of Bookselling." He relates to us some brilliant stories about his encounters with artists and celebrities such as Steve Martin, Cher, and Arthur Miller, and makes a compelling case not just for Hatchards, but for the significance of the bookshop experience as a whole.Hosted by Ryan Edgington and Matt Hennessey.

Jan 11, 2022 • 31min
Natasha Brown on Assembly and Deadpool
On this episode, we were joined by Natasha Brown, author of the breakout debut novel of 2021, Assembly. Brown spoke to us about her journey towards becoming an author and developing a prose style to match the icy, transactional nature of the novel's universe. She provided insights into pitching a debut novel in the publishing world, and how the book's reception has influenced her understanding of its meaning.Hosted by Ryan Edgington and Matt Hennessey.