

Get Creative with Pace Morby
Pace Morby
Discover the insider secrets of real estate investing and unlock your path to financial freedom with the Get Creative Podcast with Pace Morby. Join Pace and industry experts as they share invaluable tips, creative finance strategies, and success stories to help you thrive in the competitive world of real estate investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, our podcast provides actionable insights to accelerate your journey towards wealth and independence. Tune in now and start building your empire today!
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Jan 28, 2026 • 31min
Turning Non-Deals to Profit: Creative Restructuring Techniques
Welcome to a new episode of the Get Creative podcast! Today, host Ingryd Hernandez is joined by real estate experts Wes Thompson from Washington, D.C., and Marcelo Tostes from San Antonio. This episode dives deep into the world of real estate investing, focusing on creative finance strategies and success stories. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting, you'll find actionable insights to help you secure your first or next deal in the competitive real estate market.
Highlights:
"Creative finance has opened doors to real estate investments that I never thought possible."
"The best deals come from understanding the nuances of each transaction and the human element behind them."
"Every deal teaches something new, that’s the beauty of real estate investing."
"It's not just about closing deals, but building relationships that last and create continuous opportunities."
Timestamps:
01:04 - Meet the Guests: Wes Thompson and Marcelo Tostes
02:08 - Wes’s Journey to His Second Creative Deal
03:29 - Leveraging Community for Real Estate Success
07:18 - Strategy: Turning a Non-Deal into an Opportunity
12:11 - Negotiating and Restructuring Deals
14:08 - Personal Funding vs. Private Money
18:03 - Tax Benefits and Deal Structuring
22:47 - Overcoming Challenges in Deal Execution
25:54 - Preparing a Property for Rental Market
28:44 - Closing Remarks and Where to Connect
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
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The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Jan 20, 2026 • 41min
Micro-Multifamily Investing: Justin’s “Creative Burrito” Strategy Explained
What if you could combine BRRRR + creative finance and turn one ugly single-family home into three cash-flowing rental units—without needing the seller to accept a traditional discount?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Keola Keala interviews Justin Tuminowski (aka @realestatejustin) — Sub2 leader, Owners Club member, and New England micro-multifamily operator — as he breaks down a real deal he calls the “Creative BRRRR Burrito.”
Justin shares how a simple direct mail relationship (plus consistent follow-up and a $5 Dunkin’ gift card at the perfect time) led to a motivated seller giving him first right of refusal on a highly visible, distressed property in Southern New Hampshire.
Connect with Justin: https://www.instagram.com/real.estate.justin/
Connect with Keola: https://www.instagram.com/keola_keala/
➡️RSVP for a FREE Section 8 training with Pace (LIVE): https://subto.sjv.io/JK9LYE
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
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The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Jan 13, 2026 • 41min
How to Buy Turnkey Rentals with Little Money Down: Morby Method Lending Case Study
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Keola Keala sits down with Adam Levine — Sub2, Gator, and Owners Club member with 10+ years in hard money lending — to break down a real-world Morby Method (aka “Stack Method”) transaction that helped an investor buy rental properties with as little as 5% out of pocket.
Adam explains how he solved a complex portfolio-buying problem by combining:
A DSCR loan (long-term rental financing based on cash flow, not tax returns)
A seller carry / seller finance second
private money placed into escrow to “stack” the down payment
The right title company + transaction coordination to keep everything moving
Connect with Adam: https://www.facebook.com/adam.levine.928518
➡️ RSVP for a FREE Section 8 training with Pace (LIVE): https://subto.sjv.io/JK9LYE
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Jan 6, 2026 • 28min
Direct-to-Seller Multifamily: Cold Door Knock → Seller Financing → Cash-Out Refi
What if your next multifamily deal didn’t come from a broker… or a mailing campaign… but from knocking on the owner’s front door?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Justin Tuminowski sits down with Casey Roloff (Yuma, Arizona) — Army veteran, former Border Patrol agent, and Subto/Owners Club member — to break down a real-world seller financing deal on an 11-unit apartment complex that started with a cold door knock and turned into a wealth-building home run.
Connect with Casey: https://www.facebook.com/casey.roloff/
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Dec 30, 2025 • 35min
How to Flip a $1.2M Luxury Home with Creative Finance (Subto + Novation Strategy Explained)
What happens when a luxury flip goes over budget, over timeline, and still makes six figures?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Jordan Whittenburg sits down with real estate investor Adam Colburn to break down a real-world creative finance luxury flip in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
Adam walks through how he used a Subto + novation-style structure to acquire a dated home in a prestigious neighborhood, renovate it with minimal capital out of pocket, and still walk away with nearly $100,000 in profit — despite unexpected rehab overruns and a 14-month timeline.
Connect with Adam: https://www.instagram.com/theadamcolburn/
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
Refer a Friend to SubTo: refer.nre.ai/subto
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Refer a Friend to Gator: refer.nre.ai/gator
PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
Creative Real Estate Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/creativefinancewithpacemorby
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Dec 23, 2025 • 22min
The Impossible SubTo Deal: How Robert’s Perseverance Turned a Hard ‘No’ Into a Win
California architect and longtime creative finance investor Robert Larivee joins host Keola Keala to share how he turned a Zillow listing that said “No Sub2” into a fully negotiated creative finance deal using skill, patience, and the power of his SubTo team. With decades of experience in architecture, construction, and seller-financed deals—even before joining Pace Morby’s community—Robert explains why teamwork, relationship-building, and perseverance dramatically shorten the path from lead to closing. He reveals how joining SubTo accelerated his deal flow, how his team handles acquisitions, closings, and dispo, and why community support is essential for anyone wanting to succeed in creative real estate. Packed with wisdom from a lifetime of creative problem-solving, this episode is a blueprint for new and seasoned investors alike.
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
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The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Dec 16, 2025 • 36min
Flight Attendant Lands $1M Connector Deal all with Creative Finance
Las Vegas–based connector and Southwest Airlines employee Hanna Pine shares how she built a thriving Gator lending business—leading to her first $1M golf course connector deal in Florida—while offering fast, reliable transactional funding for SubTo members. Hanna breaks down how cold-calling, community, and strong partnerships helped her scale quickly, and how she now collaborates with wholesalers, connectors, and creative closers to fund double closes and Morby Method deals with capital that stays safely in escrow. A must-listen for anyone wanting to take action, build confidence, and create win-win partnerships in creative finance.
📲 Connect with Hanna
Instagram | Facebook
➡️ RSVP For A FREE Co-Living Training With Me (Live): https://subto.sjv.io/o41boW
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Dec 9, 2025 • 32min
The PadSplit Queen: How a Single Mom Built a $45K/Month Co-Living Empire Using Creative Finance
Join host Keola Keala as he sits down with Macarena Garcia—CDC epidemiologist, professor, single mom, and powerhouse real estate investor known as the “PadSplit Queen”—who scaled from one traditional rental to 10 high-cash-flow co-living properties in just 18 months while generating over $45K/month in revenue. Macarena shares how she discovered co-living by accident, leveraged SubTo creative finance to secure deals like an 8-bedroom lakefront PadSplit with only a $13K entry fee, and built systems that allow her to thrive while working a full-time career. She dives into the importance of community, taking action, failing forward, and empowering women to build wealth through purpose-driven affordable housing, offering a blueprint anyone can follow to begin their own creative real estate journey.
📲 Connect with Macarena Garcia on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/macarena.c.garcia
➡️ Split your Pad with the Co-Living Model: http://padsplit.com/pacemorby
➡️ RSVP For A FREE Co-Living Training With Me (Live): https://subto.sjv.io/o41boW
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
Refer a Friend to SubTo: refer.nre.ai/subto
Refer a Friend to TTTC: refer.nre.ai/tttc
Refer a Friend to Gator: refer.nre.ai/gator
PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
Creative Real Estate Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/creativefinancewithpacemorby
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pacemorby/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaceMorby
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Dec 2, 2025 • 32min
8 Bedroom SubTo Deal: How Jimmy Fuentes Turned a Pre-Foreclosure into Co-Living Cash Flow with 0% Business Funding
OG SubTo student Jimmy Fuentes joins host Justin Tuminowski to break down how he took a pre-foreclosure single-family in Florida and turned it into an 8-bedroom co-living (PadSplit) cash cow—without bank financing and without flipping.
📲 Connect with Jimmy
Instagram | YouTube
➡️ RSVP For A FREE Co-Living Training With Me (Live): https://subto.sjv.io/o41boW
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
Refer a Friend to SubTo: refer.nre.ai/subto
Refer a Friend to TTTC: refer.nre.ai/tttc
Refer a Friend to Gator: refer.nre.ai/gator
PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
Creative Real Estate Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/creativefinancewithpacemorby
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pacemorby/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaceMorby
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Nov 25, 2025 • 32min
Why One IBM Sales Rep Quit His 9-to-5 to Become a Real Estate Connector
Host Keola Keala sits down with Corey Ganim—Charlotte-based e-commerce founder turned Gator connector—to unpack how he pivoted from IBM’s corporate track to creative real estate. Corey shares the moment that sparked his exit from 9-to-5, why he joined Gator in March, and the exact system he used to land his first connector deal in under 60 days
📲 Connect with Corey
Instagram | YouTube | X | LinkedIn
➡️ RSVP For A FREE Co-Living Training With Me (Live): https://subto.sjv.io/o41boW
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
Refer a Friend to SubTo: refer.nre.ai/subto
Refer a Friend to TTTC: refer.nre.ai/tttc
Refer a Friend to Gator: refer.nre.ai/gator
PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
Creative Real Estate Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/creativefinancewithpacemorby
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pacemorby/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaceMorby
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow


