

Get Creative with Pace Morby
Pace Morby
Discover the insider secrets of real estate investing and unlock your path to financial freedom with the Get Creative Podcast with Pace Morby. Join Pace and industry experts as they share invaluable tips, creative finance strategies, and success stories to help you thrive in the competitive world of real estate investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, our podcast provides actionable insights to accelerate your journey towards wealth and independence. Tune in now and start building your empire today!
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Nov 11, 2025 • 35min
From Burnout to Balance: How Richie Matthews Built Financial Freedom Through Real Estate
When the events industry collapsed during COVID, Richie Matthews faced a choice: rebuild or reinvent. He chose real estate—starting with two rental units in San Diego that became a 62-door empire. In this episode, Richie shares how he found balance, systems, and financial freedom through rental arbitrage and creative finance. Discover how to escape burnout and build a business that serves your life, not the other way around.
📲 Connect with Richie: https://www.youtube.com/@RichieMatthews
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
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The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

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Nov 6, 2025 • 34min
ER Nurse by Day, Deal Funder by Night: Building Wealth While Saving Lives
Host Jordan Whittenburg sits down with Houston-based transactional lender Brenda Villafranco to unpack how she funded a $10,000 earnest money deposit and earned $2,500 in under 30 days on a Sacramento fix & flip—all while working full-time as a hospital administrator.
📲 Connect with Brenda: https://www.instagram.com/brendabuildswealth
➡️ Unlock the Hidden Gem of Mobile Home Parks at this FREE Jam Sesh with Pace: https://subto.sjv.io/gOYELg
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
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Nov 4, 2025 • 45min
From Truck Driver to Creative Closer: Forcing a Sale & Turning a $24.5K Florida Mobile Home into a Six-Figure Win
In this episode of Get Creative, host Keola Keala interviews Spencer Bishop (SubTo & Gator) on one of the wildest creative wins you’ll hear this year. Spencer went from over-the-road truck driver to full-time investor—and then battled a two-year legal and title gauntlet after a $24.5K bandit-sign deal imploded at the closing table.
📲 Connect with Spencer: https://www.instagram.com/spencer.bishop_/
➡️ Unlock the Hidden Gem of Mobile Home Parks at this FREE Jam Sesh with Pace: https://subto.sjv.io/gOYELg
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/Z6qOyX
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
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The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Oct 30, 2025 • 30min
$0 Out of Pocket Fix & Flip: How Community Funded a Savannah Deal
In this episode of Get Creative with Pace Morby, host Justin Tuminoski dives into an incredible real-life case study from Savannah, Georgia — a fix-and-flip deal that started with $0 out of pocket and turned into a community-powered success.
Featuring Carrie Borey-Rausch, Trevor Hicks, and Robert Sigeti, this episode reveals how three SubTo and Owners Club members collaborated across states — Georgia and Florida — to creatively finance and close on a unique historic property.
📲 Connect with Trevor: https://www.instagram.com/trevor_ryan7/
📲 Connect with Carrie: https://www.instagram.com/carrieforryroush
📲 Connect with Robert: https://www.instagram.com/robertszigeti_/
➡️ Unlock the Hidden Gem of Mobile Home Parks at this FREE Jam Sesh with Pace: https://subto.sjv.io/gOYELg
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Oct 28, 2025 • 30min
How Casey Gregerson Raised $1.7 Million in 3 Days with Creative Financing
Join Casey Gregerson, a real estate investor who scaled to 400 units using creative financing, as he shares his inspiring journey. Discover how he raised $1.7 million in just three days through a blend of seller financing and private partnerships. Casey reveals the challenges of negotiating deals under pressure, including overcoming last-minute seller disputes. He emphasizes the importance of building relationships and being present in the right circles to attract investment opportunities. Get ready for a wealth of practical insights!

Oct 23, 2025 • 26min
Funding Fix & Flips in 10 Days: How Austin Hastings Finances Creative Real Estate Deals
Learn hard money basics, lending criteria, and real-world tips from Austin Hastings. Digital marketer by day, hard money lender by night—Austin explains criteria, ARV math, risk checks, and how networking with the SubTo community turns one flip into a pipeline of projects.
📲 Connect with Austin
Facebook Profile | Facebook Page | YouTube
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
Creative Real Estate Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/creativefinancewithpacemorby
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
X: https://x.com/PaceJordanMorby
The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Oct 21, 2025 • 27min
How Creative Finance Saved a Laundromat: Real Estate Investors Use Subto & Fractional Deals
Discover how Pace Morby’s community members Benjamin Huang and Leah Merga used creative finance and fractional investing to rescue a laundromat business in New England. Learn how they helped a retiring owner, restructured $300K+ in debt, and turned a struggling shop into a profitable investment.
Connect with Ben: https://www.instagram.com/benjaminhuang14/
Connect with Lea: https://www.instagram.com/lea_murga_eder/
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
Creative Real Estate Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/creativefinancewithpacemorby
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Oct 16, 2025 • 38min
From Classroom to Coastline: How Tracy Koa Closed a $750K Seller-Financed Deal in Hawaii
Former educator Tracy Koa joins host Jordan Whittenburg to break down a seller-financed multifamily deal in Hawaii—right across from the ocean—with a 4% interest rate, 7-year balloon, and roughly $2,000/month cash flow. Hear how Tracy transformed 25 years of teaching into real estate superpowers, squadded up with SubTo, Gator, and Owners Club members, and collaborated with a creative-friendly agent to craft win-win terms (including a rehab/equity plan that addressed the seller’s property-condition concerns).
Connect with Tracy: https://www.instagram.com/tracykoa/
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/Z6qOyX
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
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The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Oct 14, 2025 • 35min
From Talent Acquisition to Triple-Digit Flip: How April Elias and Pace Morby Closed a $700K Waterfront Deal
In this episode of Get Creative with Host Jordan Whittenburg, we dive deep into the inspiring story of April Elias, a real estate investor and longtime member of Pace Morby’s SubTo, Gator, and Owners Club communities. Discover how April leveraged her 20+ years in talent acquisition to negotiate, structure, and close a luxury log cabin flip in Maryland—a deal that turned into a $700K success and netted a six-figure profit.
From overcoming last-minute hard money loan setbacks to securing creative private funding with Pace Morby, Julian, and Roni, April walks us through every twist and turn of this incredible triple-digit flip. You’ll also learn how she’s combining her AI expertise with partner Heather Grisard to help other investors automate and scale their real estate businesses.
Connect with April: https://www.instagram.com/aprilelias/
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pacemorby
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The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow

Oct 9, 2025 • 43min
Teacher Turned Investor: Tracy Koa’s Leap Into PadSplit & New Builds With Dustin Geroski
In this episode of Get Creative, host Justin sits down with Tracy Koa and Dustin—co-living operators from the SubTo community—who are scaling from proven PadSplit deals to ground-up 10-bed/10-bath co-living new builds in Texas. They unpack how they fractionally raised ~$300K from ~30 equity partners, structured financing with DSCR loans and a credit sponsor, leveraged PadSplit’s marketing + member pipeline, and why Texas zoning and pre-approved plans let them move fast.
Connect with Dustin: https://www.instagram.com/dustin__geroski/
Connect with Tracy: https://www.instagram.com/tracykoa/
➡️ Split your Pad with the Co-Living Model: http://padsplit.com/pacemorby
➡️ Find Out How One Multifamily Deal Could Change your Life: https://subto.sjv.io/JKNB7E
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
COMMUNITY MEMBERS!
➡️ Get Featured on the Get Creative Podcast: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeGuestForm
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PLUG IN & SUBSCRIBE
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The Pace Morby Show: https://www.youtube.com/@thepacemorbyshow


