ProductLed Podcast

Mariam Hakobyan is the Co-Founder and CEO at Softr. She’s an engineer turned entrepreneur and has a pang for technology, product, and design. At Softr, she pioneers in building the right product, listening to customers, and building ecosystems for software enthusiasts. She prioritizes the customer’s needs by simplifying software building so anyone can set up businesses without being intimidated by their tech skills. Today, let’s listen to Mariam as she tells how Softr went from zero to 45,000 users in just a year.  Show Notes [0:57] What initially drove her to start Software.io?  [1:56] How did she start exploring different ideas for the platform? [6:01] What did she do to get the product into people’s hands? [9:20] On pursuing user growth and monetizing your product [12:20] The passionate software community, the product’s simplicity, and virality got them from zero to 45,000 users  [18:33] Mariam talks about empowering the community, creating ecosystems and a place for people to thrive [21:53] The importance of being mindful of anything that you add to the platform  [29:04] Understanding what customers value and how much they want to customize? [29:59] Intuition and understanding of the customers on what  types of things are they trying to build  [38:55] Build a great product where people feel like a magician About Mariam Hakobyan Mariam is a graduate of Yerevan State University. Her colleagues highly respect her as she is passionate about her job and is always one step ahead in providing service to others. She started her engineering career in her early 20s and is now a force to be reckoned with in her field. But most importantly, Mariam is now a loving mother of two.  Links Softr.io  Airtable Profile Mariam on LinkedIn

Brandon Leibowitz runs and operates SEO Optimizer, a digital company that helps small to medium-sized businesses in getting more online traffic and converting them into clients, sales, leads and more. He has the experience and knowledge to help people build their websites by performing SEO (search engine optimization). In today’s chat, Brandon will discuss how to take advantage of someone else’s R & D, optimizing your search engine and branding your company’s website to keep up with the trends.  Show Notes [4:09] Think about branding yourself and building trust with people that are coming to your website  [4:30] What are the business lessons that he’s learned throughout the years? [5:50] How exactly does he optimize his SEO? [9:32] The importance of text content [12:14] You have to optimize your website for Google, but you also have to optimize it for people [12:49] How does he exactly bump up his conversion rate? [18:49] Quality backlinks are from relevant websites [19:50] The more significant the website, the more values are they going to pass on [21:18] Key takeaways that he would like to give out to the listeners [21:27] On adding good content to your category pages and the importance of making a good site structure [23:15] To achieve optimization, fix your website and your conversion rates About Brandon Leibowitz After graduating from college with a degree in Business Marketing, he dove headfirst into the business world and landed his first job in Internet Marketing. Now, Brandon is a master in the internet marketing industry. Specifically SEO, Google Adwords, Social Media Marketing, Analytics, and more. His primary goal is to help others learn how to market themselves online and grow their web presence. Links Schema.org SEO Optimizers Profile Brandon Leibowitz’s LinkedIn Brandon Leibowitz's YouTube Brandon Leibowitz's Instagram Brandon Leibowitz's Facebook Brandon Leibowitz's Twitter Brandon Leibowitz's Buzzsprout

Ken Babcock, Co-Founder of Tango and Zachary Dewitt of Wing Venture Capital, is in the show today to give us the nit and grit on how their company achieved 10,000 sign-ups in just less than two weeks. These business connoisseurs will also guide us through how we should target the right buyers and celebrate our end-users success—ensuring that there's connectivity between what you're building and what your customers need. They will also reveal the story behind Tango and how it evolved throughout its first initial launch. Grasp as much knowledge as you can by listening to these two geniuses.  Show Notes [2:12] Tango helps create a flexible documentation tool that allows you to generate documentation for your workflow. And alleviate your maintenance burden. [7:13] On optimizing the right go-to-market [9:23] What other tools is Tango replacing, and what do you need to do for the documentation you are creating? [15:40] The importance of setting up suitable measurement gates and understanding when to know how things are successful [16:31] How does the operation cadence work? [18:18] Being data-driven is important and complementing that with a customer focus [23:00] Why is it essential to be time-bound? [23:47] Honing your most active users in the pilot is key [24:47]On Finding different company sizes and types to understand your customer and your persona [34:49] Sales vs. Product led is different in terms of messaging  [36:12] There's a different approach to targeting buyers and users [39:27] What does it take to have your first successful launch? [45:55] Your end-users success will eventually become your success About Ken and Zach Ken is the CEO and Co-Founder of Tango. Before diving into the world of Tango, he spent more than four years at one of the world's famous platforms, Uber. After learning the depths of entrepreneurship at Atomic VC, he teamed up with his co-founders and founded Tango in 2020.  Zachary "Zach" Dewitt is a partner at Wing Venture Capital. Wing Venture helps founders establish businesses around their ideas. In the company, Zach mainly focuses on enterprise application, technology and product-led growth to propel businesses forward. Links: Wing Venture Capital Tango Product Hunt Profiles: Zach Dewitt Ken Babcock

When you reach that prime of triumph, it’s so easy to count the wins, but what we don’t realize is that it takes years of reinvention to get there.  Justin Dignelli and Peter Zawistowicz are the masterminds behind helping MongoDB drive from sales-led to product-led growth. To give you an overview, MongoDB is an open source database platform that is designed to unleash the power of software and data for developers and the applications they build. In this episode, we got a chance to chat with these two moguls as they look back on their years of helping MongoDB in fortifying its systems, building special product teams and achieving continued success. Show Notes [1:46] The genesis of Atlas: Why did MongoDB start incorporating Atlas? [2:49] What is the main focus of MongoDB? [6:11] What does their initial team look like? [13:03] The benefits of incentives and how it drives people’s behavior? [19:57] How did they come up with their initial wins? [27:20] What are some milestones that contributed to their success? [31:46] What are some of the biggest changes that their sales team has to make to reach their company goals? [33:46] Collaborations and being thoughtful when it comes to making broader changes  [39:33] 5 useful steps in transitioning from Sales-Led to Product-Led About Justin Dignelli Justin is the former Senior Director at MongoDB. He helped in expanding and drove the company towards a cloud-first go-to-market. He also contributed to MongoDB’s transformation into a more product-led growth model plus enterprise sales. About Peter Zawistowicz  The former Growth Marketing Manager at MongoDB. He pioneers in driving demand and growth at product-focused, enterprise software companies (with a specialty in SaaS/cloud). Moreover, Peter has experience with developer-focused programs, product-led development (PLG), digital acquisition, field marketing, and the like.  Links: MongoDB Pace App Profiles: Peter’s LinkedIn Justin’s LinkedIn

Krish Subramanian, CEO, and Co-founder of the leading subscription and billing software called Chargebee, will be sitting in today’s show to answer that question. Chargebee is a global subscription management platform that automates revenue operations of over 4,500 high-growth subscription-based businesses from startups to enterprises across verticals, including SaaS, eCommerce, e-learning, IoT, Publications, and more. Krish and his extremely dynamic mind will be sharing first-hand experiences on how they evolve their go-to-marketing strategy over the years and learn how to straddle sales-led and product-led motions together to drive fast growth. He also talks about the trials and setbacks that they’ve encountered and how they move past those obstacles to generate wins. Shownotes [0:59] Krish talks about their journey of reflecting on their mistakes and wins at Chargebee [1:56] What got them into solving this problem of helping subscription companies understand their business much better? [7:11] The relevance of understanding your subset of customers  [8:42] How do they identify their best customers? [10:36] Getting that value metric and Northstar metric is the biggest revelation for them [15:33] On building more features for your most successful customers [{21:21 Why does he think the pricing is so important to be Product-Led as a business? [25:03] Your end user’s success will eventually become your success  [30:00] Advantages of having both self-service and pre-sales [31:15] How did Chargebee evolve the way they structure their teams? About Krish Subramanian: Krish Subramanian is the co-founder and CEO of Chargebee, a global leader in subscription billing and revenue management solution for scaling businesses. He is an engineer by profession and a problem solver at heart with over 20 years of experience in the software field. As an ex-consultant, Krish strongly believes that business value is defined by service and experience to the customers and the people. He is referred to as the “nice guy” within the company, the tech community, the media, and his mom.  Profile Chargebee Krish on LinkedIn Krish on Twitter

Simon Belak is a visionary; he speaks with outstanding clarity and has a true leader's heart. Working with Metabase has sharpened his skill in product leadership, and today he’ll be sharing his line of work with us and walking us through how he can build high leverage teams for his former company, Metabase. Product leadership has become an increasingly important subject in our field. It focuses on specific challenges on those leading product teams and is accountable for product performance and customer satisfaction. Someone can do this by leading a team with a product-centric strategy. Product leaders progress through creating cross-functional influence, product work, and scale. Listen to this episode, and gain value on Simon’s insights about the topic. Show notes   [3:29] The personal growth that he gets from such a different lifestyle is reflected in his leadership.  [4:27] Simon’s definition of product leadership. [4:47] The fundamental difference between management and leadership. [7:10] Leadership should be fundamentally about enabling people. [8:35] To earn leadership, you have to show that you’re always trying to better your team. [9:57] Taking into account the long-term vision of Product-Led in their company. [11:17] The evolution of leadership at Metabase  [15:23] Metabase created an environment where people can open up their thoughts and feelings without worrying about judgment. [18:39] How do you build a high leverage team? [21:36] How can a person adapt to Metawork? [23:54] The most value starts after you do Metawork in the long term. [26:26] The importance of acknowledging how fast the market is changing. [28:08] Actionable recommendations on developing and implementing new leadership strategies. [28:13] Interaction between company culture and leadership. [28:56] Implementing completely bottom-up and very concrete practices. [31:35] How does Simon get into this business meditative state? [34:50] Don’t think about solutions. Think about the problem harder. Create a hypothesis about the situation and provide solutions on how you can attest to the problem. [36:58] Start with introspection sessions. About Simon Belak During his time at Metabase, his time was split between data science, product leadership, and producing engineering work. Simon brings complex topics and simplifies them so people can understand them better. He is exceptionally customer-focused and helps you go beyond your boundaries by challenging your beliefs. Profile Simon’s Twitter Simon’s LinkedIn

Justin Bauer is known for his expertise in product analytics. He is always one step ahead in helping companies build better products by amplifying their growth. His primary role as an SVP in Amplitude involves creating teams that establish a deep customer understanding and generate inspired visions to produce unique product experiences that users can enjoy. He’s on the show today to share his insights in building excellent product analytics so you can increase engagement, growth, and revenue for your growing company. Show Notes [0:44] Justin’s journey in the institute  [1:47] The most significant milestones, experiences, and learnings along his company journey [3:59] How do we drive growth? [9:00] Shifting balance: How did they shift from product-led to an enterprise? [18:53] Changing the brand of the company as part of going enterprise  [20:33] How has pricing changed for their business? [21:56] Focusing on the product analytics market by making sure to build the best product  [28:25] How do they continue to build an excellent analytics product? [28:56] Make sure to understand your consumers because people want to buy from a company that understands them. [30:44] How investing in high-quality content can produce better results? [32:23] Always start with a strategy in mind [37:04] Understanding the Vision Strategy Roadmap About Justin Bauer Justin Bauer is the senior vice president of product at Amplitude. In his role at Amplitude, he leads product management, design, education, growth, and analytics for Amplitude's Digital Optimization System. Before he joined Amplitude, he was the CEO and co-founder of Rivalry Games, which was acquired by You42 in 2015. Profile Justin on LinkedIn Justin on Twitter Amplitude

Jeff Coyle is the Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer of MarketMuse, an industry-leading content planning technology. Today, he will explain how community management principles can support product-led growth. Jeff also discusses how community drives “sales-led growth” and the importance of employee advocacy in the success of a community. MarketMuse, his platform, identifies content quality issues and creates a channel for content optimization. Show Notes [1:10] Traditional product management and traditionally trained product managers do not typically come from the land of social media. [5:31] How has the community influenced overall product-led growth? [8:22] The importance of having thick skin is that you can experience what it’s like to have a negative emotion emerge and create more transparent communication. [15:54] Employee advocacy and its social impact [23:18] Key takeaways from this episode that listeners should consider. About Jeff Coyle Coyle is the Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer of MarketMuse. This company assists content marketers in establishing topical authority, improving content quality, and transforming semantic research into actionable insights. Prior to joining MarketMuse, he previously operated his own marketing consultancy and managed the Traffic, Search, and Engagement team for TechTarget, a leader in B2B technology publishing and lead generation. Links Product Led Slack Community Profile Market Muse Email address: jeff@marketmuse.com Jeff on LinkedIn Jeff on Twitter

Chase Wilson is a PLG specialist who focuses on solving product led-growth issues. Chase has just launched his new company, Flywheel, a platform that helps hasten self-serve revenue by bridging in-product behaviour and marketing tactics. And today, he sits down with us and tackles areas such as improving your range of vision by making effective marketing strategies. He will also discuss the significance of user experience and pointers on structuring data. And how the company's perspective has become a game-changer in giving customer experience. Show Notes [1:10] Starting Flywheel to solve the product-led growth issue [2:24] His idea of Product Qualified Leads? [5:05] The concept of MQL and why is it problematic? [6:52] Product led growth is highly flexible, and every journey that the company goes down is pretty unique. [7:08] How does changing your perspective of PQL, MQL, and SQL affect the customer's experience? [8:41] You need to take the product usage data, the sales interaction data as well as the marketing interaction data and put it together as an overall timeline. [10:41] Why is it called team qualified leads? [13:30] Advice to listeners About Chase Wilson Chase Wilson is an alumnus of the University of Chicago and is now the Co-Founder and CEO of Flywheel. Chase is known for his determination, creativity,  and resourcefulness when it comes to managing his team and marketing insights. Chase’s talent is his capacity to communicate his rare ideas in a way that inspires multitudes. Which makes him a force to be reckoned with in the industry. Links Flywheel Atlassian Profile Chase on LinkedIn Email Address: chase@theflywheel.app

Alexa Grabell is the co-founder and CEO of Pocus. Pocus is the Product-Led Sales platform that helps sales teams turn their existing users into high-value customers. Pocus combines customer fit and product usage data into a single source of truth so that sales teams can prioritize the best opportunities and take the right action at the right time… all without relying on their engineering team. With Pocus, sales teams can convert more free trial / self-serve users, reach out to the right buyer at the right time, find 'needle in the haystack' opportunities, and save time sifting through data. Show Notes [0:20] Alexa introduces Pocus, her benchmark report on sales, and how it captures the findings to gain data. [1:39] She explains what product-led sales is and how it leverages growth. She talks about the AI of user interaction rather than just traditional sales. [2:46] On how the Product-led world makes the most out of platforms that generate more work efficiency [4:21] The takeaway on product-led growth shows that over 97 of respondents have a sales team or plan to have a sales team. [5:37] She gives us a perspective on what goes on within the sales organization among companies. She also talks about what sales assist is. [7:27] On the principle of show value instead of just selling on the value [8:26] Alexa predicts 2022’s take on PLS’s innovation stage at its infancy to accelerate revenue. [10:37] She emphasizes the importance of focusing on PLG motion rather than traditional sales. About Alexa Grabell  As the co-founder and CEO of Product-Led Sales’ first platform specialized for sales teams, Pocus created the 2021 Product-Led Sales Benchmark Report in partnership with First Round Capital → you can see more detail about it here Links Slack Airtable Asana Profile Pocus Pocus Community Alexa on LinkedIn Alexa on Twitter Pocus Weekly Newsletter