

Heart of Dating
That Sounds Fun Network
The purpose of this podcast, Heart of Dating, is to unmask the ever-so-ambiguous world of dating in the Christian world. While there are resources spread out over the years, there are not many centralized areas where Christians can access dating advice, help, and guidance easily and in a fashion that is accessible. The ultimate hope is that Heart of Dating Podcast will start a healthy conversation for men and women and provide wise input and direction as we answer some tough questions and uncover some transformative ways to develop a healthy attitude and approach to dating as a Christian.
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Mar 25, 2020 • 57min
S4 Ep84: The Sex Talk with Dr. Celeste Holbrook
Y’all… this week we are talking all about SEX on the podcast this week. We are thrilled to have Dr. Celeste Holbrook on the podcast today.
Dr. Holbrook believes that great sex fuels a great relationship. As a faith-centered sexologist, behavior change specialist, author, and speaker with a Ph.D. in Health Education from Texas Woman’s University, her mission is to help people achieve extraordinary intimacy in their lives through planned mental and behavioral changes. She trusts that if you can create a strong, breathtaking, communicative relationship in your sex life during your most vulnerable moments, your relationship outside of the bedroom will undoubtedly follow suit.
Today, Dr. Celeste also takes a moment to answer some of our listeners’ questions such as:
How do orgasms bond us to someone? Can you have sleepovers with your significant others before marriage? Is sex drive uncontrollable?
Dr. Celeste talks about virginity, sex drive and how to have a healthy view of your sexuality.
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interest
Want to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-library
Kait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3E59cLQ
Want to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcast
Come hang with us on the gram:
http://instagram.com/heartofdating
http://instagram.com/kaitness
. . . . .
A quick thank you to some of our friends!
Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdating
Compassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?
We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.
http://compassion.com/heartofdating
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Mar 21, 2020 • 17min
S4: MINISERIES: Will I be Single Forever? Dating during COVID-19
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interestWant to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-libraryKait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:https://amzn.to/3E59cLQWant to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcastCome hang with us on the gram:http://instagram.com/heartofdatinghttp://instagram.com/kaitness. . . . . A quick thank you to some of our friends!Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdatingCompassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.http://compassion.com/heartofdating Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 18, 2020 • 1h 7min
S4 Ep83: Dating ONLINE!… (and Debunking Other Christian Dating Stigmas) with Hannah Brencher
Heart of Dating is thrilled to welcome Kait’s friend Hannah Brencher to the show! She is a TED Speaker, and blogger dedicated her life and work to the brokenhearted. She founded More Love Letters in 2011. Her books "Come Matter Here" and “If You Find This Letter” are in bookstores across the country. Hannah's life revolves around dead-lifting, theology, and true crime. She lives in Atlanta with her husband Lane and they are currently expecting their first child!
On today’s episode Kait and Hannah talk all about ONLINE dating! They talk about the stigmas, why Christians should try it out, and how it can actually be a great way to find your own love story!
Hannah tells her story of meeting her husband on Hinge, an online dating app, and how to transform your expectations of HOW you meet someone.
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interest
Want to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-library
Kait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3E59cLQ
Want to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcast
Come hang with us on the gram:
http://instagram.com/heartofdating
http://instagram.com/kaitness
. . . . .
A quick thank you to some of our friends!
Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdating
Compassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?
We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.
http://compassion.com/heartofdating
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Mar 11, 2020 • 1h 11min
S4 Ep82: Waiting To Have Sex with Carson Blair and Angela Zatopek
Is it really possible to wait to have sex until marriage? We know the struggle is real! Friends, we want to encourage you to develop your own sexual ethic that is deeply rooted, free of shame, and thought through.
Today our two guests, Angela Zatopek and Carson Blair, have just such an encouraging story to share with us!
Angela is a good girlfriend of Kait’s. They became instant soul sisters after meeting at an Initiative Network Retreat (shoutout to all our epic friends at Initiative!). Once Kait heard more about Angela’s story with Carson, she fell in love and knew she wanted to have them on to share everything together live!
Well today is the day! And friends, this is one of the first time Angela and Carson are sharing their story together publicly… let’s show them some major love for their courage, vulnerability, and willingness to share it with us here at HOD!
Angela Zatopek is an on air TV personality and host that has been featured on Fox Sports, NBC, CBS College Sports, Miss Texas USa, One America News, and the Christian Broadcasting Network
Aside from working in media, Angela also founded a jewelry brand bridging the world of fashion and faith called Elevare. Part of her mission includes collaborating with bold people of faith, and designing collections to share their personal story. Her vision is to create a unique way for the millennial and older generation to learn, express, and share stories and teachings from the Bible through personal style.
Carson Blair baseball professionally for 12 years. He was drafted by the Boston Red Sox out of high school, played for Red Sox, the Oakland A’s and even the Rangers.
Carson is a huge health nut and passionate about health and wellness and is also a bonafide enneagram 5, which pairs interestingly with Angela’s enneagram 7 nature. Also in surprising news, Angela was his first girlfriend, which he explains more on today’s interview.
Kait, Angela and Carson talk today about physical boundaries in dating, abstinence, and how to develop a sexual ethic that means something to you. Angela and Carson both were able to maintain their desire to not have sex and are still honoring that now into their 30’s…
Angela and Carson tell their story of pursuing purity, waiting until marriage and how they met via a DM slide on Instagram.
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interest
Want to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-library
Kait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3E59cLQ
Want to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcast
Come hang with us on the gram:
http://instagram.com/heartofdating
http://instagram.com/kaitness
. . . . .
A quick thank you to some of our friends!
Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdating
Compassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?
We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.
http://compassion.com/heartofdating
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 4, 2020 • 55min
S4 Ep81: 081: Dating As a Single Parent with Bethany Anne Moore
Heart of Dating is so exciting to bring on to the show a highly requested guest to talk about a highly requested topic!Bethany Moore is a single mom through foster care and now adoption . She had the honor of adopting her three children Franklin, Katherine, and Theodore after being their foster parent. She was a public school teacher for 4 years and then worked as a social media manager for Maple Street Biscuit Company. She is looking forward to getting back into the classroom after getting settled into her new city of Nashville, TN and to be able to continue being an advocate for foster care and adoption.On this episode Bethany shares her struggles of dating as a single mom by choice and how she’s navigated her dating journey.Bethany Anne talks about adopting as a single woman and her story of dating. She discusses when her kids meet her dates, and the different hurdles she faces as dating as a single mom.Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interestWant to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-libraryKait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:https://amzn.to/3E59cLQWant to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcastCome hang with us on the gram:http://instagram.com/heartofdatinghttp://instagram.com/kaitness. . . . . A quick thank you to some of our friends!Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdatingCompassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.http://compassion.com/heartofdating Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 26, 2020 • 1h 3min
S4 Ep80: 080: Navigating Love Addiction and Codependency with Kristine Jackson
Heart of Dating welcomes Kait’s friend Kristine Jackson from Onsite Workshops! Onsite is a therapy retreat center dedicated to changing lives through advanced emotional health. Kristine is a Clinical Supervisor at Onsite. With a Master of Social Work from the University of Pennsylvania, Kristine went to UCLA for a certification in co-occurring disorders. She remained in California for the next two decades working as Clinical Director of mental health, addictions and eating disorder programs. As a lifelong learner, Jackson is certified in several modalities including Play Therapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Brief Strategic Family Therapy (BSFT), Motivational Interviewing (MI), Eating Disorders (CEDS), Daring Way (DWCF-C) and Experiential Therapy (CET I). She lives in Nashville with her husband, Kelly and their dog, Scully.
Matt talks about what it means to fight for a relationship and let go of expectations. He also talks about how to be less defensive and have a teachable spirit.
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interest
Want to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-library
Kait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3E59cLQ
Want to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcast
Come hang with us on the gram:
http://instagram.com/heartofdating
http://instagram.com/kaitness
. . . . .
A quick thank you to some of our friends!
Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdating
Compassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?
We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.
http://compassion.com/heartofdating
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 19, 2020 • 54min
S4 Ep79: Facing Unmet Expectations and Fighting for Relationships with Matt Hammitt
Heart of Dating is thrilled for you to hear this conversation today. Many of you know our host, Kait, has been working on writing a book. Part of that process has been studying a variety of topics, one of the, also being body shame.
Today Kait had the privilege of sitting down with a new friend, Dr. Morgan Francis to talk about body image and body shame an it’s affect on dating.
Dr. Morgan Francis is a Doctor of Clinical Psychology and a Licensed Mental Health Therapist as well as a wife and mother to three children in Scottsdale, Arizona. She is the owner of Scottsdale Premier Counseling, in Scottsdale, Arizona. Her mission is to break through the mental health shame game. With over 20 years of experience specializing in the treatment of Body Image and Eating Disorders, Dr. Francis can empower you to make peace with your body and food.
Dr. Francis believe that for too long society has been embracing Diet Culture and pushing you to believe how you look is not good enough. No matter how thin or fit you look, you cannot outrun the pressures that surround you. The transformation of loving and appreciating your body happens internally, not externally. Dr. Francis has developed online courses on Body image and Self- Love that will help you to take back your life.
She has also been featured on a variety of events and news outlets from the Powerhouse Women’s Event, and was even recognized by Lululemon as a Female Leader making a difference for her inspiring work on Body Image. She’s also a frequent guest on Fox 10 News as an expert in the mental health field.
Matt talks about what it means to fight for a relationship and let go of expectations. He also talks about how to be less defensive and have a teachable spirit.
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interest
Want to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-library
Kait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3E59cLQ
Want to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcast
Come hang with us on the gram:
http://instagram.com/heartofdating
http://instagram.com/kaitness
. . . . .
A quick thank you to some of our friends!
Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdating
Compassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?
We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.
http://compassion.com/heartofdating
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 12, 2020 • 1h 1min
S4 Ep78: Body Image and How We Show Up in Dating with Dr. Morgan Francis
Heart of Dating is thrilled for you to hear this conversation today. Many of you know our host, Kait, has been working on writing a book. Part of that process has been studying a variety of topics, one of the, also being body shame.
Today Kait had the privilege of sitting down with a new friend, Dr. Morgan Francis to talk about body image and body shame an it’s affect on dating.
Dr. Morgan Francis is a Doctor of Clinical Psychology and a Licensed Mental Health Therapist as well as a wife and mother to three children in Scottsdale, Arizona. She is the owner of Scottsdale Premier Counseling, in Scottsdale, Arizona. Her mission is to break through the mental health shame game. With over 20 years of experience specializing in the treatment of Body Image and Eating Disorders, Dr. Francis can empower you to make peace with your body and food.
Dr. Francis believe that for too long society has been embracing Diet Culture and pushing you to believe how you look is not good enough. No matter how thin or fit you look, you cannot outrun the pressures that surround you. The transformation of loving and appreciating your body happens internally, not externally. Dr. Francis has developed online courses on Body image and Self- Love that will help you to take back your life.
She has also been featured on a variety of events and news outlets from the Powerhouse Women’s Event, and was even recognized by Lululemon as a Female Leader making a difference for her inspiring work on Body Image. She’s also a frequent guest on Fox 10 News as an expert in the mental health field.
Dr. Francis talks about the psychology of having a low view of our bodies and ourselves and how that can affect how we show up in dating.
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interest
Want to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-library
Kait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3E59cLQ
Want to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcast
Come hang with us on the gram:
http://instagram.com/heartofdating
http://instagram.com/kaitness
. . . . .
A quick thank you to some of our friends!
Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdating
Compassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?
We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.
http://compassion.com/heartofdating
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 5, 2020 • 48min
S4 Ep77: Pushing Past Physical Challenges in Dating with Chris and Emily Norton
Heart of Dating welcomes Chris and Emily Norton to the show today. Chris and Emily are the center of a handful of viral videos! Chris went through a severe spinal cord injury in 2010 while playing football in high school and is a quadriplegic who uses a wheelchair. Three years after his injury, he met his wife Emily online. Even though the relationship may have faced some challenges, Chris proposed to Emily right before their college graduation. A video went viral of Emily helping Chris walk across the graduation stage and then again of him walking down the wedding aisle. Emily grew up in Iowa and while in high school she was in a mentoring program to mentor foster kids in the area. Chris and Emily both had a passion for foster care children and since getting married they have adopted five amazing girls, a 20-year-old and a sibling group of four sisters (ages 10, 9, 6, & 3), and have fostered a total of 18 children.
They created the Chris Norton Foundation, which is a nonprofit organization dedicated to helping people with spinal cord and neuromuscular disabilities by providing opportunities that would not otherwise exist. They also wrote the book Seven Longest Yards about their story and have an upcoming film being released later this year.
Emily and Chris discuss their journey of dating as Emily talks about being open to dating someone with a disability and how to see past that.
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interest
Want to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-library
Kait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3E59cLQ
Want to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcast
Come hang with us on the gram:
http://instagram.com/heartofdating
http://instagram.com/kaitness
. . . . .
A quick thank you to some of our friends!
Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdating
Compassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?
We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.
http://compassion.com/heartofdating
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jan 31, 2020 • 18min
S4: MINISERIES: How to Turn Someone Down and Handle Ghosting
Ending dating seems to be like the bane of our existence... but does it really have to?
Crushing on a cutie? Download this FREE Resource on how to show interest:
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/how-to-show-interest
Want to further your dating knowledge? Check out our ultimate dating library!
https://www.heartofdating.com/resource/ultimate-dating-library
Kait wrote a book! Snag Thank You For Rejecting Me on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3E59cLQ
Want to meet some epic Christian Singles? Join our huge HOD Family on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/heartofdatingpodcast
Come hang with us on the gram:
http://instagram.com/heartofdating
http://instagram.com/kaitness
. . . . .
A quick thank you to some of our friends!
Faithful Counseling: Our #1 resource for affordable, reliable, Christian therapy. You can get 10% off your first month by going to http://getfaithful.com/heartofdating
Compassion International: Do you have a burning desire to be a parent but feel stuck in singleness? Do you want to make lasting, powerful impact in your life as a single?
We are a proud partner of Compassion International. Our community of singles has sponsored hundreds of kids all around the world, and we’d love to invite you to join us on this compelling mission.
http://compassion.com/heartofdating
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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