Real Organic Podcast

#024: Bill McKibben offers his thoughts on how a big movement can succeed in fighting big power. Beyond the importance of pairing global policy with local, grassroots action, he also speaks to the role of industrial agriculture and the dismantling of the organic brand in the coming climate blows we all face.  Bill McKibben is an environmentalist,  journalist, author, and the co-founder and leader of the climate action group 350.org. He is the Schumann Distinguished Scholar at Middlebury College. In addition to writing for the New York Times, The Atlantic, Mother Jones, Harper's, National Geographic and more, he is known for his books about Climate Change, including The End of Nature, Eaarth: Making a Life on a Tough New Planet, and Falter: Has the Human Game Begun to Play Itself Out?To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/bill-mckibben-winning-climate-argument-losing-fight-episode-twenty-fourThe Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#023: Can grazing livestock heal the planet by sequestering carbon and reversing desertification through managed movements that mimic nature? Are livestock even more effective than using controlled burns to prevent wildfires? Allan Savory believes so, and his arguments and outcomes are convincing.  Allan Savory is the founder of Holistic Management International, a systems-based decision making process that aims to heal ecosystems,  using livestock to reverse desertification in brittle environments through natural grazing methods when applicable. His TED Talk on the subject has been viewed close to 8 million times. He is the co-founder of the Savory Institute, an organization aiming to regenerate large areas of grasslands around the world through Holistic Management.  To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/allan-savory-regreening-the-planet-with-livestock-episode-twenty-threeThe Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#022: Arran Stephens is the chair and co-founder of Nature's Path, one of the few big brands who were present at the onset of the modern  organic movement and remain true to the spirit and letter of the organic law. Having served on many industry boards, including the Organic Trade Association and the Non-GMO Project, Arran's long-held view is that we need  to stay wary of profit-motivated players and foster the growth of more activism-centered businesses.  Arran Stephens has been involved in the organic movement since the late 1960s and founded Nature's Path with his wife Ratana in 1985. They are now North America's biggest certified organic breakfast foods company. He served on the board of Organic Merchants in the early 70s, was on the board of the OTA during the creation of the USDA's National Organic Program, was a founding board member of the Non-GMO Project (which he later parted ways with), and has also served on the board of the Rodale Institute. He is outspoken about his role as an activist and the importance of that behavior to his family's business and the organic movement.  To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/arran-stephens-fighting-lobbysits-who-dilute-organic-episode-twenty-twoThe Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#021: A deep discussion about farming, science, sustainability, and where knowledge comes from with the always-fascinating Stuart Hill, author and former chair of Social Ecology at the University of  Western Sydney, Australia.Stuart Hill is a prolific author, publishing over 350 papers and many books on agriculture and social ecology. He is the former chair of Social Ecology at the University of  Western Sydney, Australia and is currently Professor Emeritus in their School of Education. Stuart serves on the Real Organic Project Advisory Board.To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/stuart-hill-sustainable-farming-knowledge-feedback-loops-episode-twenty-one/The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#020: Biodynamic farmer Jean-Paul Courtens discusses the complexities of tillage through the eyes of a vegetable farmer, as well as necessary changes in his practices due to the increasing effects of Climate Change.Jean-Paul Courtens is a well-known Biodynamic farmer living in New York's Hudson Valley and a valuable resource to the farming community. After spending decades growing organic food for over eight hundred CSA members in his region he turned his attention to educating and mentoring the next generation of farmers. In 2018, he was awarded NOFA NY's Farmer of the Year Award. To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/jean-paul-courtens-to-till-or-not-to-till-on-a-vegetable-farm-episode-twentyThe Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#019:  A brief interview with Enid Wonnacott about the drafting of the Organic Foods Production Act of 1990.  Enid shares how farmers learning from one another and always striving to improve the program were meant to be at the forefront of the standards.Enid Wonnacott, (the late) longtime Executive Director of NOFA Vermont was a champion of the organic, local food movement, helping to form the National Organic Program and sparking plenty of opportunities for both learning and sales for organic farmers in Vermont. In addition to her many accomplishments within the organic movement, she is remembered for bringing singing, dancing, food, and joy to decades of gatherings. We interviewed her in August of 2018 at the NOFA Summer Conference at UMass Amherst.  To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/enid-wonnacott-when-the-organic-floor-became-a-ceiling-episode-nineteen/The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#018: Vincent Stanley shares the story of how and why Patagonia switched to 100% organic cotton in the mid 90s and how private companies can lead the way in answering to bottom lines beyond profit.  Vincent Stanley has worked at Patagonia since the 1970s, navigating a changing environment and the company's role in producing Earth-friendly products for customers who want to align their value with their purchases. He is the co-author of The Responsible Company with his uncle, Yvon Chouinard.To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/vincent-stanley-the-power-of-private-companies-working-to-protect-earth-episode-eighteen/The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#017: Hydroponic blueberries, suspiciously sporting the USDA organic seal, are taking over the marketplace and jeopardizing the livelihood of real organic blueberry farmers like Hugh Kent. But with a focus on biodiversity and the microbial life in his soil, Hugh is able to grow a blueberry that has one thing the hydro growers can't match: flavor. Hugh and Lisa Kent grow exceptional blueberries at King Grove Organic Farm in Florida, where they actively steward many acres of land and several species of wildlife. King Grove's  blueberries are renowned for their truly exceptional flavor.To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/hugh-kent-allowing-hydroponic-berries-into-organic-is-a-mandate-episode-seventeenThe Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#016: Green banker, philanthropist, and co-owner of TomKat Ranch, Kat Taylor believes we can reform both capitalism and agriculture into tools that heal our planet and communities through just and equitable practices that align with consumer values. To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/kat-taylor-grow-good-money-and-good-food-for-all-episode-sixteen/The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce. It also identifies pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs as compared to products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be. But the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing small farms that follow the law. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but are still paying a premium price. The lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

#015: Farm School NYC's Onika Abraham lays out the history, challenges, and hopes of community gardens in urban America, including the need to restore equity by reclaiming the commons and  to empower those closest to problems as the authors of solutions.Onika Abraham is the Executive Director of Farm School NYC, the co-founder of Black Urban Growers, and one of the organizers of the Black Farmer Fund. She completed an apprenticeship at the Center for Agroecology and Sustainable Food Systems in Santa Cruz, CA and  is a certified Urban Gardener through the Brooklyn Botanic Garden. Onika serves on the Real Organic Project Advisory Board.To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/onika-abraham-voting-with-your-fork-wont-end-food-apartheid-episode-fifteen/The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce, and pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs from products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:https://www.realorganicproject.org/farmsWe believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be, but that the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing the ability for small farms who adhere to the law to stay in business. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but still paying a premium price. And the lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000  Real Fans!https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/