

MINDSET ZONE
Ana Melikian
Our mindsets determine the way we see the world, as well as, the way we behave and who we are as people. It’s very easy and normal to stay stuck in fixed mindsets – limiting beliefs about our abilities and skills that prevent us to learn new things. We can intentionally cultivate a growth mindset that allows us to stretch our minds and amplify the realm of possibilities of what we do, and who we are. Amplifying our mindsets is one of the secrets of success, for most entrepreneurs, business owners, and professionals out there.
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Dec 12, 2025 • 13min
Harnessing Human Potential in the Age of AI – Elan Gelfand interviews Dr. Ana Melikian
AI is going to change everything. And the best way to make sure that potential is leveraged for a better future for us all—including the planet—is by first tapping into our human potential.
- Dr. Ana Melikian
In this episode, Ana Melikian brings us a compelling conversation that explores the evolving landscape of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and how it intersects with our unique human potential. Originally recorded for the Abundant Thinking podcast, Elan Gelfand interviews Ana Melikian about navigating the age of AI—not by competing with technology, but by leveraging our distinctly human qualities.
Throughout the discussion, Ana Melikian highlights that technological revolutions have always shaped human history, and AI is no different. She traces our journey from the Stone Age to today’s digital age, revealing how we've consistently redefined what it means to be human alongside technological advancements. The conversation underscores the importance of staying intentional, self-aware, and collaborative as we face rapid change.
Using vivid analogies—like riding the “100-Foot AI wave”—Ana Melikian suggests we approach AI as a team sport, championing the idea of collaboration between humans and technology, rather than working in isolation or fear. She also addresses the challenges of reskilling, adapting to workforce changes, and embracing new opportunities that arise as some jobs disappear and new ones emerge.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about how to future-proof themselves and their organizations, lead intentionally, and harness AI to build a better world.
Let’s dive in!
***This episode is rebroadcast here at the MINDSET ZONE® with explicit consent from Elan Gelfand, the host of the “Abundant Thinking” podcast.
This week on the MINDSET ZONE podcast:
00:00 The potential (and disruption) of AI
02:33 Humans and technology: Partners, not opposites
04:45 Cultural identity, revolutions, and redefining humanity
08:12 Navigating change: Adapting culture and mindset
12:20 AI in the workplace: Threat or opportunity?
13:19 The “hundred-foot AI wave”: Collaboration and teamwork
18:29 Adapting, reskilling, and reinventing the game
21:34 Intentional leadership in the AI era
23:13 How to be a team player with AI
Meet Your Host:
Ana Melikian, Ph.D., advises leaders on how to amplify impact while avoiding burnout. She is passionate about teaching others how to unlock their human potential using simple and powerful approaches such as her P.I.E. method.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
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Nov 28, 2025 • 13min
The Real Barrier to AI Progress: Human Leadership, Not Technology with Kate Lowry
If you treat AI models like a valued thought partner and true collaborator, you can create something much more enduring—which is genuine innovation."
- Kate Lowry
In this episode, Ana Melikian welcomes Kate Lowry, CEO, coach, and author of "Unbreakable," to delve into the powerful impact of leadership styles on innovation—especially in the era of AI. Together, they unpack why fear-based leadership blocks creativity and how a shift toward human-centered practices can unlock profound potential in both organizations and emerging technology.
Kate Lowry shares insights from her work coaching both human leaders and AI models, highlighting how treating people and artificial intelligence as mere tools stifles growth, collaboration, and genuine innovation. The conversation explores the domino effect of fear in company cultures and the urgent need to create psychologically safe environments for teams and for oneself.
Listeners will learn actionable strategies to cultivate experimentation and creative risk-taking, including the value of celebrating mistakes, making space for rest, and building cultures where everyone’s voice matters. Ana Melikian and Kate Lowry discuss how leaders can better support their teams—and themselves—by fostering environments rooted in trust, self-awareness, and human connection.
Whether you’re leading a team, building a company, or experimenting with AI, this episode offers essential advice on how to move beyond restrictive, fear-driven habits and step boldly into a future of unbreakable innovation and impact.
Let's dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 – Introduction & Host Welcome
00:15 – What is Fear-Based Leadership?
01:50 – How Fear-Based Leadership Blocks Innovation
03:15 – Examples from Tech Industry (Zuckerberg, Musk, Microsoft)
05:00 – The Chain Reaction of Fear in Organizations
06:30 – Treating AI as a Tool vs. a Teammate
08:30 – Coaching AI Models & Humanizing AI
10:30 – Book Reference: "Co-Intelligence" and Human/AI Collaboration
12:00 – Leadership Practices: Celebrating Mistakes & Safe Spaces
14:00 – Psychological Safety & Maslow’s Hierarchy
15:30 – Shifting from Fear-Based to Strengths-Based Leadership
17:00 – Coaching Leaders: Creating Space for Self-Discovery
18:30 – The 9-9-6 Work Culture & Silicon Valley
20:00 – The Value of Rest and Leisure for Innovation
22:00 – Sports Analogy: Rest for Peak Performance
23:30 – Burnout, Attrition, and Cognitive Flexibility
24:30 – About the Book: "Unbreakable" & Where to Find More
About the Guest
Kate Lowry is a CEO coach, venture capitalist, and author based in Silicon Valley. An expert in fear-based leaders, Kate developed her methodology growing up in a personal hierarchical family, then refined her approach in the elite worlds of start-ups, private equity, management consulting, and big tech at McKinsey, Meta, and Insight Partners. She is the author of Unbreakable: How to Thrive Under Fear-Based Leaders. In her free time, you can find her writing comedy and music and cuddling her service dog, Annie.
Resources:
Book: Unbreakable: How to Thrive Under Fear-Based Leaders
Website: https://www.katelowry.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinejlowry/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateunbreakablelowry/
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Nov 21, 2025 • 16min
Responsible AI and Human-Centered Tech: Bridging Gaps with Brenda Darden Wilkerson
People come in all shapes, sizes, experiences, ages, dialects, et cetera. And as we move more into an automated world, communication still is key."
- Brenda Darden Wilkerson
In this episode, Ana Melikian is joined by Brenda Darden Wilkerson, President and CEO of AnitaB.org, to examine the human side of technology and the importance of responsible AI. Drawing on her personal journey and background in computer science, Brenda shares how her passion for improving the human condition has shaped her approach to tech—and why it's crucial to design technology that serves everyone, not just those who build it.
Together, Ana and Brenda unpack the rapid evolution of AI, its impact on society, and the widening gaps it threatens to create. They discuss the risks of leaving people behind in the wake of technological advances, while stressing the power we have to shape how AI is developed and adopted. Brenda highlights the need for diverse perspectives at the table when designing both tech and policy, illustrating how our unique "blind spots" must be considered in order to create equitable and inclusive solutions.
This conversation offers practical insights into how organizations like AnitaB.org convene thinkers, technologists, educators, and users to foster responsible AI—and how we, as individuals and communities, can play an active role in reimagining the future of work and life.
Let's dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 – Diversity, communication, and automation
01:41 – Brenda’s journey into technology and the human condition
03:49 – Identifying the gap: Designing technology for everyone
05:27 – Early experiences with technology and user inclusion
09:07 – The rise of AI and responsible technology
13:46 – Technology’s impact on different generations and accessibility
16:46 – Voice recognition, accents, and improvements in transcription
18:47 – The evolution of AI and its integration into daily life
22:06 – The speed of AI adoption and societal adaptation
25:29 – The knowledge gap and the importance of responsible AI
29:06 – What is responsible AI?
30:48 – Real-world examples: Driverless cars and diversity in design
About the Guest
Brenda Darden Wilkerson is President and CEO of AnitaB.org, a global nonprofit working to connect and empower women and allies in technology. A former software engineer turned champion for access and opportunity, Brenda founded the pioneering Computer Science for All initiative in Chicago Public Schools, later influencing national policy and earning a White House Champion of Change award. At AnitaB.org, she leads efforts to expand pathways into tech, from apprenticeships to leadership, while building one of the world’s largest communities of women in tech. Named to the Forbes 50 Over 50 in Impact and honored by SXSW for community service, Brenda is a visionary voice for inclusive innovation and a leading advocate for a more just and human-centered tech future.
Resources:
AnitaB.org
ghc.anitab.org
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Nov 14, 2025 • 0sec
How AI Reshuffles Industries: Sangeet Choudary on Embracing Change and Systemic Innovation
The playing field is constantly changing. So when new technologies come in, you need to reimagine your game because the playing field is changing and the new technology brings in new capabilities that you can use to play better."
- Sangeet Choudary
In this episode, Ana Melikian welcomes Sangeet Paul Choudary—global keynote speaker, best-selling author, and renowned thought leader on platform strategy and digital ecosystems—to the MINDSET ZONE. Together, they delve into the profound ripple effects of Artificial Intelligence as explored in Sangeet’s newest book, Reshuffle: Who Wins When AI Restarts the Knowledge Economy.
Sangeet challenges the popular thinking around AI-induced job losses, arguing that it’s not just about people using AI to become more efficient within existing roles. Instead, he reveals how AI fundamentally transforms workflows, organizations, and even the very nature of industries—requiring leaders to reconsider and reimagine the entire playing field.
Through vivid analogies—like the transformation brought by the shipping container and the QR code—Sangeet illustrates how even “dumb” technologies have restructured global systems, hinting at the extraordinary potential and unpredictability of AI’s impact. Together, they discuss how AI opens opportunities for systemic change, the speed of adoption, and the critical importance of focusing not merely on technology, but on the broader context and workflows it reshapes.
Ana and Sangeet also explore potential blind spots for leaders, highlight the necessity of including the human factor in every strategic decision, and draw lessons from history on how new technologies can both solve and create new kinds of problems and inequalities.
If you’re a business leader, innovator, or anyone eager to understand how to stay agile, spot the opportunities, and avoid the pitfalls in a world rapidly reshaped by AI—this episode is a must-listen. Expand your perspective, strengthen your systems thinking, and unlock the mindset needed to thrive in times of disruption.
Let’s dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 Introduction & The Changing Playing Field
00:18 Host Welcome & Guest Introduction
01:16 The Fallacy of "AI Will Take Your Job"
03:16 How Technology Changes Jobs & Workflows
06:34 Adoption of Technology: QR Codes & AI
09:16 The Cold Start Problem & Social Media Adoption
12:49 Electricity, General Purpose Technologies, and AI
13:57 Helping Leaders See Opportunity in Disruption
15:44 The Shipping Container Analogy & Globalization
18:22 Second-Order Effects & New Inequalities
21:23 Singapore, COVID, and the Human Factor
24:21 The Value of Human Touch in AI Systems
27:00 Leaders' Blind Spots with AI Adoption
29:03 Rethinking Organizations: The Lego Analogy
30:44 Closing & Where to Learn More
About the Guest
Sangeet Choudary is the best-selling co-author of Platform Revolution and the author of the new book Reshuffle. He has advised CEOs at more than 40 Fortune 500 companies as well as pre-IPO tech firms. He is currently a Senior Fellow at the University of California, Berkeley, and has presented at leading global forums, including the G20 Summit, the World50 Summit, and the World Economic Forum.
Connect with:
Sangeet Choudary - LinkedIn
Sangeet Choudary - X (Formerly Twitter)
Sangeet Choudary - Substack
Resources:
Book: Reshuffle: Who wins when AI restacks the knowledge economy by Sangeet Paul Choudary
Website https://platformthinkinglabs.com/
Substack: https://platforms.substack.com/
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Nov 7, 2025 • 14min
Harnessing the PID System: Preparation, Intentionality, and Differentiation in the Age of AI with Rutherford Pascal
One of the biggest things with leadership is you got to have the right people on the right bus, in the right seat on the bus, and if that happens, you're pulling one rope in the same direction. If that happens, that bus is gonna go fast. That bus is gonna be efficient."
- Rutherford Pascal
In this episode, hosts Ana Melikian and Rutherford Pascal tackle the rapidly evolving landscape of AI disruption, with a particular focus on service-based businesses such as law and accounting firms. Together, they explore how organizations can stay relevant, differentiate themselves, and retain top talent in an era where automation and AI are reshaping the marketplace.
Rutherford shares insights from his own leadership journey—including being promoted eight times in the corporate world—and introduces his PID System: Preparation, Intentionality, and Differentiation. He explains how this framework not only fueled his personal success but can also empower organizations to grow, adapt, and thrive amidst uncertainty.
Ana and Rutherford dig into the crucial theme of value creation—for both customers and team members—and stress how AI should be used as a tool to augment human potential, not replace it. They highlight the importance of leaders truly listening to their people, uncovering individual zones of genius, and ensuring everyone is “in the right seat on the bus” to create synergy and joy at work.
From practical strategies to thought-provoking examples, the conversation offers actionable advice for leaders and professionals looking to leverage both technology and human strengths to thrive in the future of work.
Let's dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
0:00 – Leadership: The Right People on the Right Bus
1:03 – Introduction to the Mindset Zone & Guest
2:05 – AI Disruption and Staying Relevant
6:46 – Adding Value: The Key to Promotion
7:57 – Customer-Centric Mindset (Amazon Example)
10:55 – The PID System: Preparation, Intentionality, Differentiation
19:41 – Retaining the Best People in the Age of AI
20:34 – The Importance of Listening as a Leader
25:25 – Four Levels of Listening for Better Decisions
27:00 – Where to Learn More About Rutherford Pascal
About the Guest
Rutherford J. Pascal is a seasoned Senior Sales Executive with over 30 years of experience in driving sales growth, revitalizing stagnant markets, and building high-performing teams across diverse industries for three fortune 100 companies. As the Founder and CEO of Glass Walls Leadership, Rutherford is dedicated to empowering leaders and ordinary workers to become indispensable at work. This is accomplished through one-on-one coaching, group training, and dynamic keynote presentations. His extensive expertise includes strategic business, market and sales planning, performance enhancement, and team motivation.
Meet Your Host
Ana Melikian, Ph.D.—Expert in amplifying impact without burnout, author of "Mindset Zone: Actualize Your Human Potential." Rutherford Pascal—Leadership consultant, author of the PID System, and advocate for value-driven organizational growth.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
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Oct 31, 2025 • 14min
Living From the Inside Out: Susan Filan on Surviving, Awakening, and Finding Purpose
Living my life from the outside in makes me a beggar at the feast. Living my life from the inside out makes me a gift and a joy and a presence. I am now able to serve to help to heal in a way that I was never able to before."
- Susan Filan
In this episode, host Ana Melikian welcomes Susan Filan—former trial attorney, legal analyst, and now transformational speaker known as the Wake Up Coach—to the Mindset Zone podcast. Together, they explore the heights of achievement and the hidden costs that can come with relentlessly pursuing career milestones.
Susan shares her remarkable journey, from building a prestigious professional life to surviving a near-fatal accident that forced her to completely re-evaluate what truly matters. She candidly describes her wake-up call, the long and difficult road of physical recovery, and the profound shift toward living life from the inside out rather than the outside in.
Ana and Susan discuss how society’s focus on busyness, external validation, and productivity can cause us to miss the essence of being alive. Through Susan’s powerful story, listeners are invited to reflect deeply on presence, gratitude, and the importance of embracing each moment—before a crisis forces us to pause.
Susan also reveals how her experience has empowered her to help others as a coach, speaker, and retreat leader—guiding people to discover purpose, reconnect with their authentic selves, and wake up to the joy and fulfillment available right now.
Let’s dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 – Introduction
01:02 – Meet Susan Filan
03:16 – The Wake Up Call
07:09 – Recovery and Gratitude
10:29 – Rethinking Priorities
12:10 – Presence and Self-Love
15:04 – Living from the Inside Out
18:06 – Transformation
21:14 – Lessons from Pain
22:00 – Retreats and Travel
24:00 – Connecting with Susan
26:00 – An Invitation to Wake Up
About The Guest
Susan F. Filan, Esq. is Wake-Up Call Speaker and Coach, a former trial lawyer and MSNBC Senior Legal Analyst turned transformational voice in mindset and reinvention. She helps peak performers—from boardrooms to start-ups—break free from burnout, reclaim their lives, and awaken to their true power. With neuroscience, high performance, and spiritual insight, Susan sparks real, lasting change.
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Oct 24, 2025 • 13min
Break Free From the Never Enough Mindset: Redefining Abundance With Leisa Peterson
When we can make friends with our fear, we open up a huge amount of information that can help us make better choices for ourselves."
- Leisa Peterson
In this episode, Ana Melikian welcomes Leisa Peterson, renowned money mindset expert and author of The Money Catalyst, to explore the hidden dynamics behind financial success and the pervasive “Never Enough” mindset—even among high achievers. Leisa reveals the subtle signs of scarcity thinking and guides listeners on how to shift from fear-based to values-aligned decisions, redefining abundance on their own terms.
Leisa shares why she chose to illustrate financial transformation through the fictional character Maribel, allowing readers to safely examine their own money stories and emotional triggers. Together, Ana and Leisa explore how our relationship with money is deeply intertwined with our bodies, relationships, and leadership styles—and how self-awareness and curiosity can unlock greater choices and joy.
The conversation also tackles the role of fear in uncertain times. Rather than pushing fear away, Leisa encourages making friends with it, uncovering its wisdom, and applying it compassionately—whether with ourselves, colleagues, or loved ones. She offers practical advice for navigating financial discussions in relationships, including the importance of planning, open communication, and respecting both risk-taking and cautious perspectives.
Let’s dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 Introduction: Making friends with fear for better choices
02:00 Spotting the “Never Enough” mindset in successful people
04:35 Using story to create breakthrough money mindset shifts
07:28 How scarcity and abundance impact bodies, relationships, and leadership
10:30 Shifting from fear-based to values-aligned decisions
12:11 Fear as a strategic guide—getting curious, not judgmental
15:26 Addressing fear in ourselves and others (including children and employees)
18:28 Expanding possibilities amid uncertainty and stress
20:26 Supporting partners and loved ones with different money mindsets
22:32 How writing The Money Catalyst created personal transformation
About the Guest
Leisa Peterson is an internationally recognized money mindset expert, author, and the founder of Wealth Clinic. With over thirty years of experience as a financial planner and transformational coach, Leisa specializes in helping individuals and leaders break free from limiting money beliefs, move beyond scarcity thinking, and step into greater abundance. Her latest book, The Money Catalyst, uses storytelling and journaling to inspire readers toward healthier, values-driven financial decisions. Leisa’s work is grounded in compassion, deep insight, and a dedication to personal and collective transformation.
Connect with:
Leisa Peterson's LinkedIn Profile
Wealth Clinic
The Money Catalyst
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Oct 17, 2025 • 14min
Leadership Lessons from Aviation with Ron Higgs
If you slow down and figure out what went wrong, it will help you accelerate in the future."
- Ron Higgs
In this episode, host Ana Melikian sits down with Ron Higgs, former naval aviator turned leadership consultant, to uncover the powerful mindsets and tools honed in the cockpit—and how they translate into today’s rapidly shifting business world.
Ron shares his journey from 24 years in the U.S. Navy, where he flew and managed complex aerospace projects, to guiding leaders and teams through uncertainty and change. Together, they delve into the VUCA (Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, and Ambiguous) framework, mapping its military origins directly onto the challenges leaders face in navigating team dynamics, technological disruptions, and rapid market shifts.
Ana and Ron explore the practical power of the Brief-Execute-Debrief cycle used by naval aviators—demonstrating why slowing down for feedback, debriefs, and contingency planning is a high-performance must, not a luxury. They address the critical role of psychological safety, open feedback, and continuous improvement, as well as practical ideas that business leaders can use to foster a culture where learning and trust thrive under pressure.
If you’re an executive, team leader, or technical expert craving practical strategies to align teams, accelerate learning, and lead with clarity amidst chaos, this episode is packed with actionable insights (and aviation stories you won’t want to miss).
Let’s dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
02:02 – From naval aviation to corporate: Ron’s leadership journey
05:59 – What VUCA means—and why it matters for today’s leaders
10:14 – The briefing, execution, and debriefing cycle for business growth
17:33 – Why slowing down accelerates results—and avoids costly mistakes
17:56 – Creating a feedback culture: lessons from the cockpit
19:03 – Building psychological safety and trust in teams
22:44 – Delegation, the co-pilot mindset, and the keys to empowering your team
25:41 – How to strengthen leadership and collaboration at every level
About The Guest
Ron Higgs is a leadership consultant, U.S. Navy veteran, aerospace engineer, and former Fractional COO. With over 20 years of experience in executive operations, Ron brings a unique blend of military precision and business acumen. He helps companies align strategy, execution, and culture—often drawing from his time as a Naval Aviator flying complex missions in high-stakes environments. Ron is also a speaker and the author of the LinkedIn series Leadership Lessons from Aviation.
Connect with:
Ron Higgs LinkedIn Profile
Wolf Management Solutions, LLC
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May 9, 2025 • 18min
AI Won’t Save Us—But Our Human Potential Might
We can surf this hundred-foot AI wave if we take this as a team sport.”
- Ana Melikian, Ph.D.
In this episode, Ana Melikian dives deep into the human side of the AI revolution, asking an essential question: Is our true superpower found not in machines, but in our own human potential? Ana explores the third crucial mindset shift needed to navigate the world of AI disruption, emphasizing that while artificial intelligence continues to surge forward, it’s our capacity for creativity, proactivity, and connection that will truly shape a better future.
Using vivid metaphors—like Portugal’s legendary hundred-foot waves—Ana describes how humanity is facing a tidal wave of AI change. She walks listeners through vital mindset shifts: moving beyond a simple “humans versus technology” mentality to one of “humans and technology,” and shifting from a relentless quest for productivity to a commitment to doing better by leveraging technology for collective good.
Ana offers a hands-on exercise to illustrate the powerful shift from being reactive to being creative and proactive, urging listeners to pause, choose their responses, and tap into their deepest human qualities. She highlights that human potential is realized not just individually, but through teamwork, supportive systems, and cultural transformation.
This episode is both a rallying call and a practical guide: Ana encourages us to embrace our unique human edge, cultivate resilience, emotional intelligence, and collaboration, and create a future where AI enhances—rather than diminishes—our well-being.
Let’s dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE podcast:
00:00 Introduction: The Human Side of AI
01:28 The Metaphor of Big Waves
02:10 First Mindset Shift: Humans and Technology
03:19 Second Mindset Shift: Doing Better, Not Just More
03:55 Third Mindset Shift: From Reactive to Creative
06:29 The Power of Pause and Historical Perspective
08:05 Adapting Our Modus Operandi
10:12 Harnessing Human Potential and Teamwork
13:42 Creating a Sustainable Future Together
17:03 Conclusion: Expanding What's Possible
Meet Your Host:
Ana Melikian, Ph.D., advises leaders on how to amplify impact while avoiding burnout. She is passionate about teaching others how to unlock their human potential using simple and powerful approaches such as her P.I.E. method.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
Resources:
Between stimulus and response, there is this space.
Ana's AI Resources
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Apr 25, 2025 • 17min
From Exhaustion to Engagement: A Mindset Shift for the Age of AI
It is essential to know where we want to go. Otherwise, we will end up very fast, very far away in a place we don't want to be."
- Ana Melikian
In this episode, Ana Melikian delves into the second crucial mindset shift needed to harness the power of Artificial Intelligence (AI) for positive and sustainable change. Ana challenges the common "do more with less" philosophy that dominates the business world, highlighting its risks for driving burnout and disengagement. Instead, she presents a compelling framework—the burnout-engage matrix—mapped across energy and connection, to help us assess where we stand and how to move towards energized, purposeful engagement in our work.
Ana invites us to reflect on the real impact of AI: Are we simply trying to squeeze more productivity out of ourselves and our teams, or are we intentionally using new technologies to create a better future? Through practical examples and her signature four-quadrant matrix, Ana explains how we can avoid the burnout trap and instead leverage AI to amplify our positive impact while safeguarding our well-being.
She underscores that navigating the 'hundred-foot AI wave' is not a solo endeavor, but a team sport—requiring diverse voices and shared commitments from technologists, HR professionals, leaders, and frontline workers alike. By adopting a new mindset and working together, we can build a workplace culture that sustains both high performance and human connection.
Let’s dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE podcast:
00:00 Experiment: Why am I so tired?
01:13 Introducing the second AI mindset shift
02:25 The "do more with less" trap in AI adoption
03:40 Productivity gains: What do we do with saved time?
04:56 Burnout prevention and the "Why am I" experiment
06:13 The four-quadrant burnout-engage matrix explained
08:31 Mapping energy and connection
09:47 Understanding the burnout
12:59 Moving teams to the engaged zone
14:20 Surfing the AI wave as a team sport
15:13 Leveraging AI together for a better future
16:36 Next episode teaser and closing thoughts
Meet Your Host:
Ana Melikian, Ph.D., advises leaders on how to amplify impact while avoiding burnout. She is passionate about teaching others how to unlock their human potential using simple and powerful approaches such as her P.I.E. method.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
Resources:
Book: Co-Intelligence: Living and Working with AI by Ethan Mollick
Ana's AI Resources
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